Hello All,

Ok, so in order to comprehend these Two Modules Setup better, I did another CAD which basically only depicts the Magnetic and Electric Polarizations


On above Image, let's see first, the ELECTRICAL POLARIZATIONS (-/+)

1-We can observe on the UPPER MODULE 2, through the UPPER BLACK ARROWS with a CENTER Black Circle and a Negative Sign within, this means the whole area where we will be SWEEPING NEGATIVE INPUT BASED ON THE KNOWN SEQUENCE (1 through 8 and then back 8 through 1) ON ALL UPPER NUMBERS.

2-And the LOWER MODULE 1 have the RED ARROWS with a RED CENTER CIRCLE and on the inside is a POSITIVE SIGN, meaning that throughout all this RANGE we will be SWEEPING POSITIVE INPUT, ACCORDING TO OUR SAME KNOWN SEQUENCE (1 through 8 and then back 8 through 1) ON ALL LOWER NUMBERS.

Those two above are our Electrical Sweeping Polarizations, and they ALWAYS BE EXACTLY LIKE THAT DURING THE WHOLE OPERATION OF THE EXCITER SYSTEM OF THE GENERATOR.

Now let's go to the MAGNETIC POLARIZATIONS (N/S)

And here let's start first by the TWO FIELDS (F1 & F2), which are the BASE of the whole Generator Exciting System.

If you notice, these Two Field Coils (F1 & F2) ALWAYS would be receiving the SAME ELECTRICAL POLARIZATION (-/+), THEREFORE, NEVER REVERSE their MAGNETIC POLARITY.

Each Field have TWO POLES (N/S), or TWO MAGNETIC VECTORS, for F1 are A (N) & C (S), while for F2 are B (N) & D (S), As each Pole have opposite DIRECTIONS.

So, the best way we could 'visualize' the way these Fields displace through the steel core, is to 'see' that every time we sweep positive and negative, no matter the direction of rotation, we will be EXPANDING ONE POLE FROM ONE FIELD -at a time- on EACH MODULE, while COMPRESSING-RETRACTING the other MAGNETIC POLE for each respective FIELD.

EXAMPLE 1- When our Positive and Negative Charges are moving -at UNISON- from Eight [8] to One [1] on BOTH MODULES, we are EXPANDING F1 POLE C (South) and RETRACTING POLE D (South) ON MODULE 2
And at the same exact timing that we are displacing electric charges from 8 to 1, BUT ON MODULE 1, we are EXPANDING POLE B (North) ON F2, while RETRACTING POLE A (North) ON F1.
EXAMPLE 2- Now, when our Positive and Negative Charges are moving -at UNISON- from One [1] to Eight [8] on BOTH MODULES, then we are EXPANDING F1 POLE D (South) while RETRACTING POLE C (South) on MODULE 2.
On MODULE 1 is taking place the opposite as on example 1, or POLE B (North) on F2 is now RETRACTING, while POLE A (North) on F1 is now EXPANDING...

Remember, this SEQUENCE takes place at UNISON AT ALL TIMES, and this SYNCHRONIZATION FOR POSITIVE'NEGATIVE INPUT CHARGES, KEEPS THE TWO REPULSE POLES ON EACH MODULE (NN-SS), EXACTLY APART AT 180º, no matter if they are at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,7 or 8.

Hope all this explanation and Graphics, helps you all to understand it AND VISUALIZE IT better...

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

A brief account of my development on this Topic...and, an apology from my end.

When I was testing the Single Module, I knew still I have not completed the RIGHT DISTRIBUTION on the setup, and I stormed my brain for many weeks and months...I have several attempts in CAD Graphics, that if I upload them here, I will mess up all your minds...do not worry, I will not do that...

But somehow, I knew that from the point of view of the MAGNETIC FIELDS at play, we were not getting the right, STRONG and HIGH-PRESSURES MAGNETIC FIELDS DISPLACEMENT, and I have posted about this 'FLAW' that I have found on the design many times.

And yes, the Fields were displacing, reason why I was getting a good VOLTAGE INDUCTION above INPUT, however, AMPERAGE was NOT INCREASING the same way...

On previous attempts in Diagrams plus real testing, I was expanding LINEARLY the Negative Coils at Right and Left...but not inducing while negative was also sequencing...again, in a LINEAR, NOT CLOSED Fashion.

Anyways, the point is, that due to all these adding of so many coils on the negative side, I came up FIRST, with the FOUR FIELDS, FOUR MODULES CLOSED DESIGN, that I have disclosed earlier...

And I am sorry that I kept disclosing based on Four Poles System, until I realized much later on, that it could also be done with just TWO MODULES, TWO FIELDS.

THE KISS APPROACH (Keep It Simple Stupid) DID NOT APPLIED HERE ON MY END!

Mind does not always work in an 'orderly' way...and this happened to me on this part of the development...

I found the solution with the cleverest setup, the Four and Four, and still 'not seeing' that it could ALSO be done much simpler with just Two Modules and Two Fields...until much later on.

Anyways, my apologies for first presenting here the more complicated design...which is NOT the way it should have been done!

Reason why, now I am going in FULL DETAILS about the simplest and MOST REDUCED design possible, so, whenever we move on to the Four and Six and more Modules and Fields Designs, then it would be much simpler, easier to understand them from this point on.

Sincerely

Ufopolitics

  Thanks for the clarification UFO.

  So the 2 field coils are a larger winding with more resistance, than the sequential coils, unlike the 4 module design ?

  Also, would two separate secondary's be the best configuration? on this design.

  I have received my laminated toroids and most of the required materials to build a Dual 32 bar commutator with two internal slip rings.

  It will be great to just need 1500 RPM for 50 hz.

  Looking forward to getting started soon, time is my problem as i still work 7 days on the farm, and i just don't seem to have any success. in training my 1000 laying hens to take a day off.   

 Warm Regards  Friend,   Cornboy.    

Quote from: Cornboy on Jul 21, 2024, 06:38 PMThanks for the clarification UFO.

Hello friend, you are welcome

 

Quote from: Cornboy on Jul 21, 2024, 06:38 PMSo the 2 field coils are a larger winding with more resistance, than the sequential coils, unlike the 4 module design ?

Ok, the more the number of sequential coils, the smaller the Field Coils could be...on the Four Module and Four Fields, we could "afford" to have lesser resistance Fields, simply because it is DOUBLE on Ring Coils and Double on Field Coils, related to a Dual Module System.
Remember that this method of Power Input, related to ALL COILS seen as 'Resistors' is strictly PARALLEL...Meaning that no matter if ALL Coils are in series between them, what matters the most is where are the Input Points connected related to the series chain.

Parallel Resistance automatically REDUCES RESISTANCE to a minimal value, so, it means the requirement to drive your Input will take HIGHER Amps...we do not want that, right?

 

Quote from: Cornboy on Jul 21, 2024, 06:38 PMAlso, would two separate secondary's be the best configuration? on this design.

I highly believe so, just because One Module is running in a completely OPPOSITE SWEEP to the other (Related to Secondaries)...so Secondaries need to be connected in a specific way, in order they "add up" instead of cancelling by subtraction of opposite currents tending to zero, in the event that you have a FULL Winding Secondary Coil at 360º...it will NOT work.

This is the same exact way that a typical Stator Output Fields on a Rotary Generator are connected between them...same principle.

 

Quote from: Cornboy on Jul 21, 2024, 06:38 PMI have received my laminated toroids and most of the required materials to build a Dual 32 bar commutator with two internal slip rings.

  It will be great to just need 1500 RPM for 50 hz.

  Looking forward to getting started soon, time is my problem as i still work 7 days on the farm, and i just don't seem to have any success. in training my 1000 laying hens to take a day off. 

 Warm Regards  Friend,  Cornboy.   

I am glad that you are getting all materials!!
Yes adding the slip rings internally is the bast way to go.
Yes having four poles reduces your required frequency, same as a Four Poles Exciter System Generator...at least that is the way it is suppose to "react"...
Remember friend, we are in a "Beta Stage" until ALL is fully proven, we are working on 'Theories as Comparison's"

Regards Friend!!

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I wanted to also take you all into another 'view' that would help you to understand even more the way this setup Functions...

So, I made another CAD Diagram, this time to see a 'common ground' where BOTH SIGNALS (ELECTRIC & MAGNETIC) UNIFY INTO A LINEAR ALIGNMENT:



On above Image the Negative-Positive Inputs are at Point 5...and so it could be at any other number from 1 to 8...it is just about a 'location pointer'-in a given Time-Frame- on the System for this specific analysis.

As also note that EXACTLY where these Two Electrical Power Input Points are located, is where ALSO the Magnetic Repulsion POLES from BOTH MODULES are, and ALL within the 'Imaginary Rotation Axis'.

The Blue and Red Circles with the letters 'SS' and 'NN', simply means where the TWO SAME POLARITY VECTORS DIRECTIONAL'S HEADS are FACING each other's to form a MAGNETIC REPULSION INTERACTION FIELD.

The way I have expressed the relation of Magnetic Vectors of Force (EMF) for each Module is written below for each MODULE #:

For MODULE 2 are:  Vector C (South)(CW) + Vector D (South)(CCW)= SS Repulsion Force Dipole Field

For MODULE 1 are:  Vector A (North)(CCW)+ Vector B (North)(CW)= NN Repulsion Force Dipole Field.

This UNIFICATION of BOTH DIRECTIONALS (ELECTRICAL & MAGNETIC) of how this Exciter System SIGNALING DISPLACEMENT ACTUALLY RUNS.

And again, wherever the DUAL SEQUENTIAL INPUT POWER POINTS (+/-) MOVE, ALSO THEIR MAGNETIC FORCE VECTORS REPULSE DIPOLES FIELDS (NN & SS) WILL MOVE.

ALL FOLLOWING THE "IMAGINARY ROTATION AXIS" (Green Dotted Line)

Now, exercise your minds and start moving this line along with all other components...spatially, limiting to its Top at right and left, back and forth...

Realize that Frequencies with the New Solid State developed by Kampen could go up to 100 Hertz...silently.

And this speed is more than enough for any conventional Generator.

I hope this helps you all to visualize even more the way this Method works.

Regards

Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: One VERY IMPORTANT PART that I forgot to add...
Is that NO MATTER at what contact point you move this Rotation Axis Line with all its Components, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE EIGHT {8} COILS ON BOTH SIDES  OF THE AXIS LINE.
And this means a lot...