UFO. You put out a lot of good information here. From still shots from the JB dvd. The slots arent quite 180 degrees across from each other. One of the motor coils rest next to this slot. The one at the top of the inside of the machine you posted. I believe this could be for more generation. It changes the angle of flux thru the armature.

As far as the brushes 2 are for motoring, those are about 180 degrees across, The one on the right by it self is none other than a third brush. Like in the older third brush generators connected to one of the other 2 coils compensating or generating coils or connected in series with the bigger feild coil thru the pulse unit and on to the tri coil. Bothe these other coils aid in rotation to a certain rpm. If it runs too fast the generation side lowers it output. These coils use the armature reaction to aid in rotation. Thats why they are in the position in.

In my opinion Jb was talking about two different machines One for 300 watts house hold bulbs. One that was reverse engineered and sold to campers He pretty much said so by saying that head lights give off a lot of light.

Yes a very intriguing machine. SO simple in structure. Yet complicated to comprehend how all the parts work together.

Even the pole shoe width and diameter of the pole shoe are critical in this device.

You did a very good job of putting this info up Thanks. Hiwater.

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMUFO. You put out a lot of good information here. From still shots from the JB dvd.

Thks Hiwater, my pleasure

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMThe slots arent quite 180 degrees across from each other. One of the motor coils rest next to this slot. The one at the top of the inside of the machine you posted. I believe this could be for more generation. It changes the angle of flux thru the armature.

Yes, but not much away from 180, maybe 178º or 175º?...it is really not a big deal...maybe bad machining...or maybe the Stator was set closer than the other...again, bad machining.

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMAs far as the brushes 2 are for motoring, those are about 180 degrees across

I am sorry, but I disagree...All Four (4) Brushes configure a "Y"...where bottom brushes are set next to each other, No brushes ever meet the straight linear 180 degrees.

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMThe one on the right by it self is none other than a third brush. Like in the older third brush generators connected to one of the other 2 coils compensating or generating coils or connected in series with the bigger feild coil thru the pulse unit and on to the tri coil. Bothe these other coils aid in rotation to a certain rpm. If it runs too fast the generation side lowers it output. These coils use the armature reaction to aid in rotation. Thats why they are in the position in.

Sorry, disagree again, wrong approach again...You need Two Brushes for Motor, yes, but you also need other Two for Generation. There is not a "third brush here"...it is 2=Motor, 2=Generator.

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMIn my opinion Jb was talking about two different machines One for 300 watts house hold bulbs. One that was reverse engineered and sold to campers He pretty much said so by saying that head lights give off a lot of light.

Only one machine was recuperated from a Lockridge replication, then at the end of video he just pulls "off the shelf" another Dynamo from the same generation, just to compare Brushes width with Lockridge Device brush.

Quote from: hiwater on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMYes a very intriguing machine. SO simple in structure. Yet complicated to comprehend how all the parts work together.

Even the pole shoe width and diameter of the pole shoe are critical in this device.

You did a very good job of putting this info up Thanks. Hiwater.

Thanks Hiwater

Ufopolitics

UFO...Yes 2 brushes  are generator brushes. What baffeles me is that one side of the armature is positive side the other side where the positive power comes in is negative side of the armature. More voltage on the positive side. closer to the positive brush the more voltage.

Where it shows the 2 brushes close together. The one on the left could be a positive motor brush and the 2 other brushes on the right side of that could be generator brushes.

I like your ideas keeps one thinking. Thanks.

Hello All,

Ok, like I have promised, here is the CAD over the Video Image...where I have recreated CAD Brushes and Pivot Brackets as rotating them, exactly from its rotating pins (red line cross).

And this is what we have:


Now, this is the REAL WAY Brushes are set, related to Commutator (Dark-Yellow Circle)
I have named A, B, C, D Brushes...and between brushes A and B, is where this space is left (gap), as when we see it from the other side:


What is left now (regarding to 2D CAD from real images), is to add all four Stators, related to Brushes...on the same drawing.

We will actually need a full 3D CAD, of this whole assembly, in order to have different views and then match them with the real images we have.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Ok, so here is just the CAD without image on background...


On this drawing I have set all Stators according to images we all have seen on video, I was not only based on one single image, but multiple ones, at different views, which give me an approx. distance, angles as looking at it as a whole.

I have named S1, S2 as the smaller Stators with Coils in copper.

As larger Stators as S3, S4...with Coils windings in green.

Since we are seeing the whole Motor Assembly together, I will give you my opinion.

1-Stators S2, S3 and S4 look like they are set at their original positioning, approximately at 90º between them, as Factory OEM settings.
2-The Smaller Stators (S1 - S2) are the ones that have been modified.

According to all the views we have available, it seems ALL Stators Steel Cores have the same HEIGHT, and only on the smaller Stators they have cut the upper steel that is closer to the Armature, as well as their coils seems much smaller than Green Coils on S3 and S4.

Now, according to brushes and stators positioning...there are quite a few possibilities for connections of Motor INPUT Positive-Negative. We need to do this (on CAD FIRST) in order to set our magnetic polarities, and get motor to run.

And here, again, I will render my opinion:

1- We need to DISCARD the Positive-Negative INPUT to Brushes B & C...Why?

1a- Because they are too close, and so, these two brushes would be shorting out the Armature windings with MUCH LESSER Coils at that section of Armature that are included between B & C.
1b- And because of the above, the common sense calls for not doing it...because of such Strong and NARROW Field.

HOWEVER, I DO NOT want to LEAVE this TESTING option OUT...and it depends on Armature resistance between these two points (B & C)...as Input would be around 12V.

There would be a lot of sparking, but for a VERY SHORT TIME Period for each Armature Coil Segment....So, it could be...also because ALL the rest of Armature would be generating an Output.
As it could also be, that these two brushes are connected in SERIES with the Outer Inductor, that way it will add resistance to this circuit.

Therefore, common sense calls for these two brushes (B&C) to be fed by same Electric Polarization, either two Positives or two Negatives.

When we do that (same electric input) on two close brushes...we are NOT generating any Field in between them, zero.

2- Now that we have set the same electric polarity to lower (B & C) then we can apply the opposite electric polarity to EITHER A or D.

For example, if we connect Negative on B, then Positive on A, then we will get a Magnetic Pole generated between A-B ANGLE, and this would be the lesser resistance path, hence a stronger Field. While the other BACK path offers more resistance then results in a weaker Field.
For Motor interaction we need to seek for closer Stator Poles, and we have the "gap" in between S1-S4...

As we could also apply the same method, but between Negative on C and Positive on D...

Anyways, there are a few possibilities to test here to get Motor running, by just connecting Two Brush Terminals, one Positive and other Negative DC.

Regards

Ufopolitics