Hi Ufo and others,

Ufo, feel free to move this post if there is a more appropriate place for it, but I think this might be helpful information.  I have worked on many protable generators so I want to share some informatiion about how they work.  There are two thing to remember about generators.  They generate voltage based on speed.  They generate current based on torque.  Portable generators whether gas powered or diesel or powered by some other source are all designed to produce 120 or 240 volts AC at 60 Hz if used in the U.S.  Now of course for the power to be 60 Hz the generator is going to have to run at a fixed speed or otherwise the frequency would be changing.  As I said they generate voltage based on speed so if we design one with the proper coils and number of poles we can have a generator that not only produces 60 Hz but at the same time produces 120 or 240 volts.  It is a great benefit that voltage is constant if we maintain a constant speed. 

So what happens when we add a load to the generator?  Well if you were to put a tach on the generator you would see that for a very short time the voltage and speed will drop because the added torque to produce the added current load will cause the engine to slow down.  But as soon as the governor of the engine kicks in it will open the throttle and cause the engine to come back up to the correct speed to maintain the voltage which again will also maintain the proper frequency of 60 Hz.  So speed equals voltage and torque equals current.

I have seen comments before that the Figuera Device is acting like a transformer but my own tests and the great testing being done by Ufo clearly show that increasing the speed of our magnetic field movement exactly duplicates the action of a generator.  The faster we move the field the more voltage we get.  What is going to be intereting to figure out as we go forward is what mechanism we might have to come up with to maintain the current we want since we do not have a torque load on our system.  It could be that when we get this system refined it may not need any compensation for torque as long as we don't overload the system.  That is what I am thinking will be the case.  But only further research will show if that is true.

Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Feb 13, 2024, 04:17 PMHi Ufo and others,

Ufo, feel free to move this post if there is a more appropriate place for it, but I think this might be helpful information.  I have worked on many protable generators so I want to share some informatiion about how they work.  There are two thing to remember about generators.  They generate voltage based on speed.  They generate current based on torque.  Portable generators whether gas powered or diesel or powered by some other source are all designed to produce 120 or 240 volts AC at 60 Hz if used in the U.S.  Now of course for the power to be 60 Hz the generator is going to have to run at a fixed speed or otherwise the frequency would be changing.  As I said they generate voltage based on speed so if we design one with the proper coils and number of poles we can have a generator that not only produces 60 Hz but at the same time produces 120 or 240 volts.  It is a great benefit that voltage is constant if we maintain a constant speed. 

So what happens when we add a load to the generator?  Well if you were to put a tach on the generator you would see that for a very short time the voltage and speed will drop because the added torque to produce the added current load will cause the engine to slow down.  But as soon as the governor of the engine kicks in it will open the throttle and cause the engine to come back up to the correct speed to maintain the voltage which again will also maintain the proper frequency of 60 Hz.  So speed equals voltage and torque equals current.

I have seen comments before that the Figuera Device is acting like a transformer but my own tests and the great testing being done by Ufo clearly show that increasing the speed of our magnetic field movement exactly duplicates the action of a generator.  The faster we move the field the more voltage we get.  What is going to be intereting to figure out as we go forward is what mechanism we might have to come up with to maintain the current we want since we do not have a torque load on our system.  It could be that when we get this system refined it may not need any compensation for torque as long as we don't overload the system.  That is what I am thinking will be the case.  But only further research will show if that is true.

Carroll

Thanks much Cifta!!

Your post is just perfect here!

That is exactly the way a typical generator works!!

As soon as we add a load (of course, depending on load amps demand) so in a high demand type, the generator tends to lock up, that is when gas engine needs to open its throttle...to compensate for the force required.

There is a way on Figuera to do that (rise amperage)...and all it is, is about the design of a specific coil(s) added to our build...

That part would be coming further, as I am working now on testing amount of excess power generated between Field 1 & 2 interactions...not secondary.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

This Test have nothing to do with the output generated by the Secondary, even though it is connected, not loaded, it is just connected to compare voltage values.

Ok, on the following video I will be showing the Working Voltage that Exciter System is able to Self-Generate, JUST between ALL Coils involved, meaning, the Seven Sequential Coils, plus the Two Fields on each end...

I do NOT have any specific secondary installed here, to refeed the exciter system...it is just between their back-forth Magnetic Field movement, that they self-generate this extra power.

I will make (not today though) a Diagram that shows connections on this test...but it is simple, and well explained on video.

One of the best discoveries I have just found out today...is that now, that I am extracting all that extra power this exciter system generates...All the Coils involved on Exciter System, now work VERY COOL!!

Not heating at ALL...even at 50 Volts Input...and the sparking at commutator was highly reduced, that you can barely see any small sparks.

So, IMO, I believe working with all that extra energy was the main cause they worked so hot previously.

On video also notice that this generated voltage at the exciter system, keeps rising as we rise the speed of the switch.

The Cap Bank I have is only 100V capacity, 1000uF, and I do not want to blow them...so I will be picking up tomorrow four new caps of 200V and 2200 uF (store only had 4) and then retesting to see the real V-Max at Exciter System.

Enjoy the video:




Regards to All


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

we certainly enjoy every bit, and thanks.

Your idea of ruling the secondary out to analyze the source of power and ability to self feed, looking for excessive or new energy as the result of this special non-mechanical displacement is very interesting.

The energy stored in your bank, can be found here https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/capacitor-energy, where 100v 1000uF equals 5 joule, 

which again equals 0.001389 Wh
https://www.inchcalculator.com/convert/joule-to-watt-hour/ 
and your current setup seems to reach that pretty fast, in seconds.

Not minding your two caps for now, your system input seems to be 100W, which you can divide down to the time it takes to fill your powerbank, in seconds, provided your input amparage is steady.

100/3600*secs spent (0.00277 Wh per sec)
Hopefully no mistakes on my side, and just delete if so or if disturbing, but doing some math, might save some time and money

Does your input amperage keeps steady at 2A in this your latest setup?

Fessor

Greetings UFOpolitics!

I don't want to interfere, but I highly recommend you to read  my article about "current, voltage, EMF and resistance" in a closed circuit where the source of EMF is the generator phase.   


Battery or capacitors  after the diode bridge  good question, I'm exposing it on a friendly forum .

To balance the energies in a DC circuit it is sufficient to have two ammeters, I have suggested a circuit that will work for your case:  video clip and post.

Don't feel like you're imposing your standards, I think you'll find my information useful.