Quote from: solarlab on May 21, 2024, 09:31 PMUfopolitics,

Might be prudent to also include your material "B-H Curves" as well, for verification reasons;
and FEA results for comparison (as many of the papers have included). 

Good Luck!

SL

Thanks for the recommendations SL...

However, I am sorry but I disagree, I believe in order to make just a BASIC PROOF OF CONCEPT, your device design will show "automatically" a gain, if the results are going to be on the positive side.

I am sorry, but based on my years of experience building Machines on the search for OU...you can tell right off, if a device, a setup, is going to work or not, without spending a lot of money on "precious and hard to get materials" that "comply" with the B-H Curves and all related to Ferrous Electromagnetic properties...

Yes, I agree that by using the "specific" materials and grades, treatment, etc,etc...it will increase the performance...but not really if we are talking about an OU Machine.

An OU Machine will let you know it would be excellent, right from the first ROUGH Testing, with cheaper materials and not even that "sophisticated" assembly.

For example, on my Figuera latest Development, I started with such a rough setup, that I have not even shown it on photos, much less on videos...it was an ugly MF, very rough built, I even use my plastic gun to hold wire from coils together...it looked like a deformed mass of wires and melted plastic...

But you know what?...it worked beautifully...it told me on the first test that I was on the right track...the results were very positive.

And right now we are all seeing what can be done with it...and is still in the very beginnings of its development stages.

And this is where majority of Inventors fail, because they get frustrated that after spending so much money and time on special this and that, to build such a beautiful setup...it did not work as expected.

Then they give up...it has happened to me (except, I did not give up), that is why I am sharing my experiences.

Anyways, thanks!

Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: Of all the things that an Electromagnetic Over Unity Machine is composed off, the one Component that We have to pay more attention above anything else...are the Magnetic Fields and their Interactions...and "visualizing them in action"...if you can do that...then all the rest is just complementary ...and yes, adding them would definitively enhance your setup.

Take it or leave it...

Ufopolitics,

Your post probably belongs in the Figuera thread - not really related to the EE_TFG device.

- You are of course free to approach the design process any way you see fit, but it might be
insane to repeat the same pseudo design process over and over if you continue to reach the
same results.

Just a few other points:

- All so-called "researchers" here appear to have the same problem - they are not Design
Engineers; but instead, mearly "hackers." It's clearly seen in their posts, shown work and
presentations.

- There is an abundance of "Crowd Mentality" and "Chase the Shinny Object" displayed as well;
unfortunately that also bleeds into the "Witch Hunt" mentality that has been demonstrated.

- Inflated egos coupled with a lack of technical knowledge and the lack of reading ability
for comprehension doesn't improve the situation either. It's a hostile environment if you
dare challenge the moob, call them out, or don't kiss their ass.

There's a BIG difference between Professional Design Engineering and Physics and being
an inflated Hobby Hacker who believes he's (or she's) a legitimate Researcher. Those that
can, do - those that can't, do not. [Any dead fish can swim with the stream, as they say].

Just "My Humble Opinion" of these "OU Forums" based on my observations, however.

    I liken these OU Forums to an RC Flying Model Airplane Club. They're technically
    interesting, sometimes expensive, social, and are a lot of fun. BUT, you're still not
    an Aerospace Engineer nor an Airline Pilot or a "Top Gun," so don't fool yourselves.

Harsh - yea - MAYBE - but - IT HAS TO BE SAID!      Now - let the rage and fury begin...

Best regards and no offense intended - just my opinion based on observation and fact.

Regards,

SL

Quote from: solarlab on May 23, 2024, 03:17 PMUfopolitics,

Your post probably belongs in the Figuera thread - not really related to the EE_TFG device.

- You are of course free to approach the design process any way you see fit, but it might be
insane to repeat the same pseudo design process over and over if you continue to reach the
same results.

Just a few other points:

- All so-called "researchers" here appear to have the same problem - they are not Design
Engineers; but instead, mearly "hackers." It's clearly seen in their posts, shown work and
presentations.

- There is an abundance of "Crowd Mentality" and "Chase the Shinny Object" displayed as well;
unfortunately that also bleeds into the "Witch Hunt" mentality that has been demonstrated.

- Inflated egos coupled with a lack of technical knowledge and the lack of reading ability
for comprehension doesn't improve the situation either. It's a hostile environment if you
dare challenge the moob, call them out, or don't kiss their ass.

There's a BIG difference between Professional Design Engineering and Physics and being
an inflated Hobby Hacker who believes he's (or she's) a legitimate Researcher. Those that
can, do - those that can't, do not. [Any dead fish can swim with the stream, as they say].

Just "My Humble Opinion" of these "OU Forums" based on my observations, however.

  I liken these OU Forums to an RC Flying Model Airplane Club. They're technically
    interesting, sometimes expensive, social, and are a lot of fun. BUT, you're still not
    an Aerospace Engineer nor an Airline Pilot or a "Top Gun," so don't fool yourselves.

Harsh - yea - MAYBE - but - IT HAS TO BE SAID!      Now - let the rage and fury begin...

Best regards and no offense intended - just my opinion based on observation and fact.

Regards,

SL

@solarlab,

First, it is not going to be within the scope of my "BASIC POINT OF PROOF" to spend over $7,600.00 USD,in just laminations because of a specific material that you have recommended, as you have shown purchase receipts on page 20, post 98 of this Topic:

EEG_EM_New_Technique_TRANSVERSE_FLUX (TF) (Provisional Patent Applied for) - Page 20 (overunitymachines.com)

Related to ALL you have written above, on your beliefs according to the "Non-Scientific" approach, or "some" not having the capability to do so...

I will definitively NOT respond.

Quote from: solarlab on May 23, 2024, 03:17 PMHarsh - yea - MAYBE - but - IT HAS TO BE SAID!      Now - let the rage and fury begin...

And so, I am also asking to All Members here, not to descend into the same level of degrading insulting comments, as has been displayed above by member solarlab.

That is NOT the reason why I have built this Website.

Ufopolitics

 I just wish to thank solarlab for his post, as it has inspired me to get on with building faster and more energetically than ever before.     

@solarlab, there is no rage or furry, just some disappointment ... I can't see in what you have exposed so far anything new. You just have hacked a wind generator and it took you few years of simulations on computer ... to be confirmed by a working device yet.

It seems to me you only want to destroy open source community by any means, while I can see some observations you made being true to some extent, but presented in such a manner to insult. Trolling and creation of flame wars.

Yet, the cost of manufacture is out of scale due to lack of knowledge on real science ... people applying for patents +150 years ago have shown far more understanding of phenomena than what I am seeing now, where these "inventors" only copy their work and eventually add some innovations.

I have describe this trend or phenomenon seen and I just observed there is almost nothing new, but the very same inventions, where some individuals try to patent Laws of physics.

Where we can read in an original patent +100 years old that any other method can be used to obtain the same effect very well described and we see a new patent for the same object using the very same effect but using different terms in accordance with "latest" mainstream science approach ... I only understand there is a desire to extend the life of old patents.
Also, fabrication costs for this "new" devices is only there to show we can not obtain access to cheap energy ... which is far away from any trace of truth.

Your type of behaviour is not new to open source forums and you are not the only one doing it.
Just to oppose such actions I have refused to build anything that cost more than £200, using +100 years old patents and taking advantage of off the shelf components and infringe any possible "new" patent that might prevent it.

I have found myself that just exposing on open source free energy forums do not work for large scale and we need to make them cheap and easy to replicate, gift them away to those whom, need together with building instructions and we may change the world for better.

Analysing wide spread of patents for power generation I can conclude that almost every country in the world already have access to harvest energy for free and "national security" grounds to ban inventions/innovations have no applicability anymore unless such "national security" coincide with very specific interest of bigoilco and international monetary system.

I hope not many will follow your way.