Ufopolitics,

The attached pdf, I hope, explains the patent concern a bit more.

Kampen,

My longer comments are found in the other forum; but the short answer is "Annealing is probably a good idea." 

Regards,

SL

A repost of the original Post #2 of this thread hopefully will help in possibly understanding a bit better 
the basic EE_TFG device discussed here.

https://overunitymachines.com/index.php?msg=219

Further posts go into more detail of the device's development as well as the CAE analysis.


Some Preliminary BACKGROUND and STUDY Information

If your new to the Transverse Flux (TF) concept these links will help explain the idea. Although they
focus on generators using Permanent Magnets (PM's) used in Wind Generators, you can easily
substitute the PM rotating disc with fixed "Electromagnets" driven by a simple "Full H-Bridge" electronically.

Principle of TFPM Generator:

https://www.pengky.cn/zz-direct-drive-turbine/transverse-flux-generator/transverse-flux-generator.html

Animated video of the simplified operation (using PM's):

https://www.pengky.cn/zz-direct-drive-turbine/transverse-flux-generator/transverse-flux-generator.mp4

A video of a TF Motor design and build from Mr. Kuhn (student at Altoon Penn State University):

https://altoona.psu.edu/video/35096/2020/12/14/transverse-flux-motor

Again, simply replace the PM's with an Electromagnet and you'll get the idea of this new EEG_EM concept.

Replacing the Permanent Magnets found in the TFPM Generator, as described above, with Electronically
controlled Electromagnets forms the EE_TFG discussed in this thread.    It's as simple as that.

Replacement of the Permanent Magnets involves simply winding a "pole coil" on the extended portion of
each half pole lamination. 

Two half poles for a Pole where each "bridge part" of the Pole contains one or Loop windings (typically 2 Loop 
windings but there can be many [?]) per device.

The EE_TFG controller uses the 2 Pole Electromagnets of each Pole (device can contain many seperate Poles,
8 in the case of the analyzed EE_TFG) to mimic the rotating Permanent Magnet disc.

Hope this helps!

SL

@ Solarlab,
Thank You for your reply and explanation.

Ref.: ANNEALING Coils
....The short answer is I suspect that would help increase the performance of the lamination BH.
It appears you can substantially modify the basic soft iron properties
with respect to the B vs H characteristics; as well as Br, etc. using certain annealing schemes......

I will order one set (8 pcs.) of Laminated Coils with Annealing Processed Electrical Steel and one set without Annealing.
Then we can measure and find out the difference.

Quote from: kampen on Apr 07, 2024, 11:05 AM@ Solarlab,
Thank You for your reply and explanation.

Ref.: ANNEALING Coils
....The short answer is I suspect that would help increase the performance of the lamination BH.
It appears you can substantially modify the basic soft iron properties
with respect to the B vs H characteristics; as well as Br, etc. using certain annealing schemes......

I will order one set (8 pcs.) of Laminated Coils with Annealing Processed Electrical Steel and one set without Annealing.
Then we can measure and find out the difference.

Hi Kampen,

Attached a pdf relating to Annealing of the Laminations (including my engineering costs for both M19 and Carp-49).

Looking forward to your progress and measurements.

SL

F.Y.I.

Please be Advised - The EE_TFG now moves into the Final Development Phase:

As of this morning we have partnered with several companies to further push the EE_TFG
into the final phases of production and marketing. This agreement covers the full spectrum
of resources required to properly field the many target device applications in a timely
manner on a on a large scale at a reasonable cost.

We will help this Group overcome a major hurdle on their way to helping secure a cleaner
environment; while enabling us to move forward. This unique grouping has all the
resources needed for further development and a good track record for innovation on
a broad scope.

This collaboration brings together, as a "Unified Group," the Resources, Processors, R&D,
Manufactures and Users - these are nearly all seperate entities - I haven't seen this type
of organization and co-operation before but considering the "subject" and "magnitude,"
maybe I'm just not all that suprised!  Very optimistic for the near-term future...

We bring to the table the experience in Engineering and Technical skills needed, plus, when
completed, we can step back and relax in relative comfort.

Been A Very Iinteresting Journey

I hope some of you enjoyed following along with the design and development of the
EE-TFG (and related subjects) as much as I did presenting them from the initial conceptual
idea through to the final analysis.

It's been an extremely interesting journey over the last several years; and very rewarding
in a multitude of technical study, analysis and other ways.

How It All Came About

The negotiation was an amazingly simple process; initial phone conversation; a few brief
conferences; and, after a "meeting of the minds on many common goals;" following a
somewhat detailed technical demonstrations; a rather lengthly engineering and contractual
meeting; and the detailed written offer, via courier, (it even shocked my attorney); it's done!

Although not sure, initially, what exactly the best course might have been for further
development and implementation of the EE_TFG; after reviewing everything, especially
the numbers (significant, ++), the decision became crystal clear...
    [I'm still a bit shakey at the magnitude of it all, actually!]

Take care and good luck chasing your dreams... It can, and will, happen!

Best regards,

SL (Solarlab - SAEC)