Introduction,

After the great find by Member GreyWolf47 about this Manchester Machine, being possibly, the Inspiration to Clemente Figuera on his Generator invention, patented back in 1908...I have decided to go deeper into the research and Study of such DC Generator Machines.

At these times, on the Twenty First Century, it is very hard to find deeper information about these type of machines...so, contributions of any available data and info, would be appreciated.

All these Machines became obsolete technology, after the appearance of the AC Polyphase Generators Worldwide, and basically on the higher developed Countries at that time, like in Europe and the United States, where Nikola Tesla, in a joint Partnership with George Westinghouse, were the winners on the contest to take the contract to illuminate the World Fair, that was taking place in Chicago, back in 1896. Also known as the "War of Currents"...between Westinghouse and Thomas Alba Edison in partnership with J.P. Morgan and General Electric...

Some information appears on the Hawkins Electrical Guide Series Books by Nehemiah Hawkins, first edition on 1914...
And exactly on page 201 of this book, there is some reference to this machine. (image from book below)

A more detailed Perspective View of the Manchester Bipolar Machine ...

QuoteA 19th Century illustration of the Manchester Dynamo, an electrical generator that creates direct current using a commutator, the first electrical generators capable of delivering power for industry. Manchester based Henry Wilde (1833-1919) invented the dynamo-electric machine, or self-energizing dynamo that replaced the permanent magnets of previous designs with electro-magnets and in so doing achieved an enormous increase in power. Werner von Siemens is more usually credited with the invention, but in fact, discovered independently.

Ufopolitics: Thank you for starting this new thread.

I ALREADY have the iron cores to build this machine and have already wound my center secondary coil with 3013 turns of 22 ga wire. I had the cores for the N pole and S pole electromagnets. They were wound with 300 turns of 16 ga wire in a single continuous coil. I am unwinding them now to   ''REPURPOSE" that wire into the correct configuration. 

The first layer will be 150 turns of 16 ga CCW. The next layer will be 75 turns CCW. The next is 50 turns CCW. Then the last layer of 25 turns CCW. These are the coil series for the N pole electromagnetd controlled by the commutator contacts N1 thru N8. The N1 contact connects to the 25 turn coil and N2 controls the 50 turn coil then the N3 controls the 75 turn coil and the N4 controls the 150 turn coil. The other core will be wound in the same manner except wound CW to give a S pole set and controlled by contacts S9 thru S16. I hope to be testing this device soon.

Quote from: GreyWolf47 on Jan 17, 2024, 06:49 PMUfopolitics: Thank you for starting this new thread.

I ALREADY have the iron cores to build this machine and have already wound my center secondary coil with 3013 turns of 22 ga wire. I had the cores for the N pole and S pole electromagnets. They were wound with 300 turns of 16 ga wire in a single continuous coil. I am unwinding them now to  ''REPURPOSE" that wire into the correct configuration.

The first layer will be 150 turns of 16 ga CCW. The next layer will be 75 turns CCW. The next is 50 turns CCW. Then the last layer of 25 turns CCW. These are the coil series for the N pole electromagnetd controlled by the commutator contacts N1 thru N8. The N1 contact connects to the 25 turn coil and N2 controls the 50 turn coil then the N3 controls the 75 turn coil and the N4 controls the 150 turn coil. The other core will be wound in the same manner except wound CW to give a S pole set and controlled by contacts S9 thru S16. I hope to be testing this device soon.

Hello GreyWolf47,

Great!

Now are you using the same structure as the Manchester have?
Or, meaning 3 Rods in Parallel?
Or following Figuera configuration?
Or straight up all 3 in a line?

Isn't a 22 gauge too small for a Secondary?

Regards

Ufopolitics