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Baghdad Battery

Started by Classic, Feb 21, 2024, 10:39 AM

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Classic

If someone want to replicate, I have attached some info. For the moment I am out in the field testing some different things while camping, but tomorrow when I am back I will make a youtube clip as it was a while since this "battery" is fully working. Currently developing few more models with minimised cell size to increase output power/volume built and few optimisations.

For those more experienced there will be a method using bespoke electrodes based on resin+metal powder ... building moulds now.

If anyone  is interested to build it I have some practical advices for diy methods which will make it easier.

I found out that PPG can not replace deionised water.

Everything is based on electric charge and dipolar properties and what we call chemical reaction in fact is just electrical interactions.

Classic

My PLA 3d printed carcass has start to leak ... quite badly, and not only leak the water but now few cells share the same water and the output is really bad. Some of the cells even display reverse polarity

So, if 3d printed, it must be done using a filament material which is water tight when printing is done or use a sealant (quite difficult due to size of cells).

It seems that ABS, PET, PETG might be a better option or use some thick polyethylene sheet and weld each cell ... I hate when need to go back to beginning, especially now when I managed to get a wonderful modular design including connections and smd tantalum caps for each cell.

Anyway, using metal coated film sheets similar with capacitor fabrication tech is another option but this is well above diy methods for John Doe  :(

thaelin

Hey Classic:
   I can agree on the other choice, PETG is basically  a plastic and wears better. PLA sadly takes on water and will separate. I printed me a cup with handle thinking it would work great . Wrong! Don"t use for beer. Bottom fell out in 3 weeks.

Classic

Quote from: thaelin on Sep 17, 2024, 07:16 AMHey Classic:
  I can agree on the other choice, PETG is basically  a plastic and wears better. PLA sadly takes on water and will separate. I printed me a cup with handle thinking it would work great . Wrong! Don"t use for beer. Bottom fell out in 3 weeks.
Even using PETG might not be enough, is the printing process which create gaps. Best solution is to 3d print using ceramic or resin. Or find a way to seal it. But, there are few more methods which can be employed ... all of them will increase labour and require more skills.

I am not giving up yet, as the potential is huge and a real game changer. It might be best solution for 80% of people on the earth, rather then learn about resonance and magnetic field or why everything is electric and wrong theories are promoted by mainstream science building theoretical models with no equivalent in universe or nature.

This can be easy done with real beneficial effect and leave all explanations for dedicated scientists to sort out while everyone can have access to unlimited energy for whatever they want.

So, I need a method which works for diy manner as I can't see the power that be to let anyone to mass produce such "batteries" as it should be a lot easier to mass produce than artisanal.

Arie Melis deGeus was found dead in his car in airport carpark despite no health issues when he started discussions for mass production of his "batteries". All "components" have been discontinued after 1 month of his patent as I tried to buy them. And while some "components can be obtained at home, you can't get any metal hydride from anywhere for any price.

Anyone whom may have a multimeter handy can check if what I have disclosed is true or false, only need a drop of water and 0.5x0.5x0.02 copper and magnesium or iron+magnesium, or copper+zinc, or copper+aluminium, or nickel+ Mg/Zn/Al etc. make series until obtain desired voltage, than all series fit in parallel. Put your 2 electrodes on the table or dish, lay a drop of water between electrodes and check which multimeter, use any water you like

This is all !

Make any water tight envelope for each cell in any form you can imagine, stick your cap at output and enjoy !

Classic

Anyway, something really interesting should be noted: polarity inversion in the middle of series connections between cells ... I have to make more tests and experiments as there might be worth to know about.
At first I can think of middle tap of a coil applied for battery  ;D


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