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19th Century DC Dynamos Spec's & Relationship to build a Figuera Generator

Started by Ufopolitics, Jan 24, 2024, 07:56 PM

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Ufopolitics

Hello,

And  please, do not take me wrong here, or "judge me" wrong, I know perfectly well, how Dynamo's armatures are wound, the same as any DC Brushed Motor...no matter what armature is used...on what motor type.

I refer to the way wires run, in a LONG travel line, from armature to commutator, with Tap ON ARMATURE, and NOT TAP on Commutator HOOKS, like it is done UP TO NOW...which is almost "invisible" to the plain eye.

This "view" tends to have that "idea", of separating commutator from armature, in a more "visible" way...by just extending those wires further away...

This is just my opinion...as I see it from Figuera's mindset and point of view...back in those times.

Regards


Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

1908 FIGUERA'S GENERATOR ON A GRAMME'S RING ARMATURE FROM THE 19th CENTURY...


FIGUERA_GEN_ON_GRAMME_RING_ARMATURE.png

I have mounted all coils from one module of Figuera's Generator, on an old Gramme's Ring Armature...is part of the process to view this generator in different perspectives...to enhance our views...

In a "Rotary" setup, our minds are designed to understand it even better than a linear display. As it may trigger -as well- some ideas within a Toroidal Future setup?...where we do not need jumpers, but another row of coils...using the "back end" Poles of both Primaries...perhaps?

Anyways, I thought I will get your minds to think...outside the "box"... ;)

Regards

Ufopolitics
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citfta

Good morming,

The ring idea just reminded me of an earlier idea I had that I forgot to pass on to you.  I was wondering if taking a large C-clamp and putting it on your earlier device would complete the magnetic flux path and make it more efficient.  Just put the ends of the C-clamp on the ends of your large iron core while you have the 60 watt bulb lit and see if it gets brighter.

Just an idea from my wandering thoughts.

Take care,
Carroll

PS: I am going to try that with my system later today and I will report back wtih the results.
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Ufopolitics

Good morning Citfta,

Actually, I was looking at another way to see this circuit, like in a Symmetrical Brushed Motor, where the armature circuit, since it is closed it will keep the currents balanced...

Brushed motors have a positive and a negative brush running on commutator...only difference here, is that negative is fixed, as positive brush is the one that moves along circuit.

However, it still plays a similar role with currents, don't you think?...Even though, the circuit currents keep moving from areas of low resistance, while other side is on high...then switching or reversing low with high...

On the other note, yes, it "should" increase by closing magnetic circuit...however, on the setup I tested on method 2, adding the heavy plates at ends don't do anything...still, I have to do it again with proper resistance to make sure.

Regards

Ufopolitics
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citfta

Good Morning again Ufo,

I'll reply here since it is part of this discussion but if you want to move the discussion to my thread that is fine also.

As you have seen in my videos my system is much smaller than your's so my results are not as great as yours.  But I decided to see if there was any noticable difference when I put a large C-clamp on my secondary core which is a ferrite core and not an iron core like yours.  I DO see a difference.  Because of the length of my core I had to find a very large C-clamp.  When I added the C-clamp the P-P voltage went from 15.0 volts to 16.8 volts.  The max voltage according to the scope went from 6.8 volts to  7.8 volts and the input current went from 380 milliamps down to 370 milliamps.  I believe (probably wrong) that since your core is iron you may see a more noticable difference.  And your system being larger will probably also show a more noticable difference.

I need to find a different video uploading site.  I don't like YouTube and Vimeo has a limit for free uploads of only 500MB per week.  So I couldn't load a video of this test.

Later,
Carroll
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