Electromagnetic Generator Theory

[rakarskiy]

Hello UFO!

The UMFORMER (MOTOR-GENERATOR) is an electric-machine converter which was used in aviation in radio communications from the late thirties, forties and later in various armies of Germany, USSR, Great Britain, Italy and USA.
The veteran from whom I heard about the self-propelled source to the radio was well versed in the devices (he was young during the war and served in an aviation unit as an aircraft maintenance mechanic-electrician). Later (when Khrushchev dismissed 1 million from the army) he came to work in the electric shop of a car company, as there was no civil aviation in our town. I do not think that he could not determine that the converter works without a battery.

About these converters in the Russian-speaking space of researchers experimented with this 'umformer' along and across. They came to the conclusion that the system is simply pulsed.  There windings are laid in such a way that they work on the principle of mutual induction, which can not lead to generation. Believe me, I've studied this page of technical history very well.

A few screens from the documentation on aircraft radio systems of the forties of the last century in the USSR. Such devices were also called single-anchor electromachine converter.





As you can see, in those years, the output of an electrical machine converter was DC current.

Even today it is possible to find these devices:

https://www.google.com.ua/search?q=умформер&udm=2&hl=ru&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiAt5jStPmJAxV-FFkFHQ54CoMQtI8BKAB6BAgAECw

[Ufopolitics]

Hello UFO!

The UMFORMER (MOTOR-GENERATOR) is an electric-machine converter which was used in aviation in radio communications from the late thirties, forties and later in various armies of Germany, USSR, Great Britain, Italy and USA.
The veteran from whom I heard about the self-propelled source to the radio was well versed in the devices (he was young during the war and served in an aviation unit as an aircraft maintenance mechanic-electrician). Later (when Khrushchev dismissed 1 million from the army) he came to work in the electric shop of a car company, as there was no civil aviation in our town. I do not think that he could not determine that the converter works without a battery.

Hello Rakarskiy,

As you have noticed, I moved your post above from the Lockridge Topic to your Topic here, as Citfta has mentioned, this is OFF TOPIC, related to the Lockridge Device.
Again, I have also knowledge about this Umformer Devices.

These Devices were merely Converters from DC to AC Output, and the ones used on the WWII front, did not have a Battery or even a "Battery Tray".
Now, there were just the Motor Unit that required a battery at all times during their operation.

But there were the closed units inside a sealed metal box and connects to a 12V Battery from an Outer Connector they had externally.

Please see the images below:

WWII WW2 German Panzerkampfwagen SDKFZ Einankerumformer Umformersatz EUa4

About these converters in the Russian-speaking space of researchers experimented with this 'umformer' along and across. They came to the conclusion that the system is simply pulsed.  There windings are laid in such a way that they work on the principle of mutual induction, which can not lead to generation. Believe me, I've studied this page of technical history very well.

AGAIN, these Umformersatz HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LOCKRIDGE DEVICE!!

LOCKRIDGE DEVICE DID NOT USED A BATTERY AT ALL!!

NOT EVEN FOR A "JUMP START"!!

ALL YOU NEED TO START A LOCKRIDGE DEVICE IS TO PULL A CORD THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY WRAPPED AROUND ITS PULLEY END...PULL IT AND "VUALÁ"...IT STARTED TO RUN.

LOCKRIDGE DEVICE WAS A SELFRUNNER, THAT USED BALANCED ACCELERATION UNDER LOAD, TO LIGHT UP 300 WATTS WORTH OF INCENDESCENT LAMPS.

THAT´S ALL!!

And trying to CONFUSE the UNFORMERSATZ with LOCKRIDGE DEVICE IS JUST NOISE, NON RELATED STUFF!!

So, I really appreciate that if you want to keep posting about this -also interesting- device (UMFORMER) DO IT HERE, on YOUR TOPIC!!!

Thanks Rakarskiy!!

Take care

Ufopolitics

[rakarskiy]

Thanks for moving the post! Indeed to the device, which was converted from a car DC generator BOSH, into a self-propelled generator UMFORMER or (dynamotor, motor-generator) with a single armature has nothing to do with the forum thread from where you moved the post.

A veteran tells and describes a design captured by the Russians as a trophy from a German Abwehr reconnaissance group in Austria, with two brush-collectors, also started by manually unwinding a cable on the shaft. Listening to the veteran's story (apparently he had studied the device thoroughly visually), I noticed one more detail: he mentioned that another element was mysteriously included in the circuit. I decided that the Germans had developed the first high-capacity capacitors, which we know today as ionisors (supercapacitors).

Unfortunately, such a design is not possible in direct execution, because the electromagnetic torque in the generator circuit, will always be higher than the electromagnetic torque in the motor circuit.
Without special calculation of this parameter, it will be impossible to start such a machine.

Regards.

[Ufopolitics]

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Unfortunately, such a design is not possible in direct execution, because the electromagnetic torque in the generator circuit, will always be higher than the electromagnetic torque in the motor circuit.
Without special calculation of this parameter, it will be impossible to start such a machine.

Regards.

@rakarskiy,

I just bold out the most important part you wrote above.

Yes, obviously that has "always" been the problem...that Generator "reverse torque" is always greater than motor...

EXCEPT, when we are able to achieve the "Full Synchronization/Fusion/Blending" of that Generator Torque in order that it works in favor of the Motor torque direction...once generator is loaded?

In other words, it is also called "Acceleration Under Load"...have you ever heard of it?

Ufopolitics

[rakarskiy]

Hi UFO!

I absolutely stated that if you take a traditional motor and run it in generator mode, its electromagnetic torque to drive force will be many times greater than the torque if the motor was performing its direct function and vice versa if you take a generator and run it as a motor you will get a motor with poor torque.

Yes theoretically you can do when the torque of the motor exceeds the electromagnetic torque of the alternator. But to reduce the electromagnetic torque of the generator in traditional designs of direct generation, you can not. 

Theoretical calculation for the simplest machines motor/generator, with open winding (by the type of DC motor of the 19th century and Dynamo of the same time, when the conductor moves in a magnetic field, with direct work of Ampere force) I have made in my publication which is available for study in PDF (English, Ukrainian) and WEB through online translator. There is there and calculation for traditional illusions of reversibility of motor and generator. 

Regards.

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