Overunity Machines

What is a Bagdad battery and why someone had such a need to hide them from public ?

Why and how they work as we know they only had 1 electrode out to be used ? And this observation has lead to some idiots describing this wonderful apparatus as being used for documents storage.

Why this type of batteries never been intended to use acid or alkaline electrolyte and what was used when they were working ?

So, what we know about them ? i mean Bagdad batteries.

They have a ceramic encasement with 2 electrodes of dissimilar materials which are usually used in transformers, or magnets or electromagnets: iron and copper ... we should pay attention to this in my opinion.

Now I am asking myself do this materials really need to be exhausted by a chemical reaction in order to release their inherent energy ? my answer is NO. Do these materials be exhausted in magnets or transformers ? NO.
Well according to some general knowledge there is some kind of interaction when they transmutate and in this way electric energy is released ... which is true, but ... why nobody ask or say from where energy appears ?

 What exactly are the properties of copper and iron ? I mean in terms of energy, potential or whatever you want to call it.

Now, let's see why not acid or alkaline electrolyte is the solution for Bagdad batteries. If such electrolyte is used the whole assembly will be destroyed as chemical reaction occur and being sealed with bitum will simply transform them in explosive devices by hydrogen generation.

What should be used instead ? WATER ! But not simple potable water, heavy water. Those famous mages supposedly using such batteries had such knowledge to be able to distill multiple times some of very good quality water very well filtered natural.

This sounds a bit crazy, but anyone can take two bits of copper and iron and stick them in water then check with a multimeter, then use simple distilled water instead of potable water and observe the results.
I know many will say that there is same kind of galvanic reaction especially with iron, but this reaction do not occur in heavy water where deuterium is combined with oxigen in a sealed medium (see bitum seal).

Now, a very simple demonstration can be done diy by taking 2 bits of bare copper wire and place them in a glass of tap water, then repeat experiment with any other metals like aluminium iron etc using only similar metals as electrodes. What this phenomena indicate ? Any material or element have their own energy and a specific medium will help to release it or better say will make the very essence of energy to be available for use in form of electricity.

Now, repeat this experiment and used different length/size of the similar metals and compare with previous experiment results.

So, don't simply trust that I am right or wrong and check yourself. After you conclude you can try to get a glass of potable water and simply dip a capacitor in it after has been discharged multiple times for a good amount of time, check with multimeter and see yourself. Electrolitic capacitors works better with 100 nF or less and low voltage. If this is not enough, repeat experiment with a diode connected to a multimeter.

Any explanation as why this charge apear and from where ? I would like to hear if you have one.

Now, back to Bagdad batteries ... some "scientists" from mainstream media (not necessarily science, and I said media) were saying the main usage of such devices was mostly as safe storage of documents without explaining why 1 wire was attached to iron electrode, an explaining black marks inside ceramic encasement as ink deposited, despite such arrangement being sealed with bitum and ignoring a possible source of black marks as being copper oxide ( no scientific investigation is publicly available if there was one).

No you may ask how a battery can provide electricity if only 1 wire is available ? It might be easier to guess that the opposite sign (qoute from Tesla radiant energy patent) may be provided from the ground.
So, such small electricity can be useful ? Can we connect them in series or parallel or series/parallel ? Can we use one wire system as per Tesla shared knowledge ? Can we amplify a source of electricity ? Can we isolate this one wire system transfer through a spark gap to achieve no loading (destroying) the dipole ?

Could it be that geometric shape of the vessel could affect the result, as is the case with a magnetron?

I am not sure that I understand your suggestion, can you give some details ?

Everyone thinks tha the baghdad battery is a battery ... What if isn"t?

This is a legitimate question and I am in favour to believe that might not be a battery in the sense of what majority of people think about batteries and might be more than a electric charge storage.

Can you explain or give some details, please ?

I think if someone has the ability to explain where the energy comes from may change our perception of many things.

I have explained in previous messages the charge may show up without chemical reaction and is usable.

In my opinion anyone how is able to use the right frequency and vibration may tap in the sea of energy we are living in.

Just analyse and think. Permanent magnet, the very basic one is made with iron, copper and nickel, electromagnet iron and copper, Bagdad battery iron and copper ... any transformer is in fact an electromagnet.

In previous messages i forgot to mention that capacitor immersed in glass of water can show up dc charge and ac charge as well when a diode is used in parallel ... without any energy source around.

Also i voltage reading from a gold weeding ring and silver ring in glass of water a bit more than copper-copper or iron-copper, also with 2 gold rings and 2 silver rings ... so there is no galvanic reaction whatsoever and no chemical reaction.

Also, dry setup with copper-paper-charcoal; aluminium-paper-charcoal; copper-polyethylene-aluminium etc.

Realmente no sé qué es. Pero creo que podría ser una cavidad resonante como ocurre en un magnetrón y que su forma geométrica es decisiva para una determinada frecuencia, en cuyo caso el hierro sería un imán.

Hmmm, i have arrived to the same conclusion dear hydrogeno, there is resonance indeed and the shape can make the difference as being the resonant box where two or more frequency are combined.

Here: https://youtu.be/wvJAgrUBF4w?si=IPhM_f-P70YTnK98
 We can see corresponding shape for frequency, unfortunately this is just 2 dimensions shown and if a device able to show 3 dimensions can be made would help a lot.

Please note: this experiment shown in the video may help to design a fractal array antenna for exact frequency desired ! ... I am working on this with some of my experiments.

Now going back to Bagdad Battery we can observe the way they are made to allow for parallel connection only as they have only iron electrode wired. What parallel connection means ? Less resistance if we consider them as resistors. What else ? Increase the mass of both elements contained in the ceramic encasement ... we can visualise many little rivers united in a big one but with the same speed of propagation.

This is one side. Now thinking about resonance what is the relation between iron and copper in terms of resonance ? ... i am still looking into this, as may allow more powerful combinations using crystals if frequency resonance relation is understood. Also the shape they need to have to act as amplifier or resonant box ... this may lead to some extent that water is a perfect resonant box medium for probably all the elements we know ... this is just a speculation for the moment.

Now, on a different way, knowing that Arie deGeus was working on a revolutionary type of battery and conjugate with the facts that he covered in his patents chemistry and transmutation along with electromagnetic wave, got me thinking about this combination iron-copper which is common for any type of effect where electromagnetic effect take place, being permanent magnet, electromagnet or transformer.
So, I wonder what a wafer thin battery may look like starting from Bagdad battery ? Some copper sheets, some iron sheets and physical separation in between them and all this immersed in heavy water to avoid chemical reaction to take place and allow for just resonance ?
Create instead of destruct, not what mainstream science teaching us how to destroy and mostly nothing about how to create without destruction. This is why I take a stand against them.

So, if we may be able to physically build multiple nano size copper, iron and spacers to sustain the structure and whole assembly immersed in water (heavy water) may lead to a new type of electric generator device ... just a supposition. This will replace the need to build many Bagdad batteries to be connected together. Along with one wire system and spark gap or any other efficient isolation may be the key.

Some considerations for heavy water https://chat.openai.com/share/90bf0912-45b7-47c2-9b21-1c5fd6037f47

And despite water being dielectric, i can measure voltage/amperage with a multimeter or lit an LED  or any numbers of LEDs i want by just touching the water in my setups, in any of my setups, even if deionised or distilled water is used.

Water can be almost anything we want if we have a right approach aiming for a certain effect.

Do not ask for any kind of proof regarding heavy water as i will not provide because i don't want or I can't, choose whatever variant you wish.

Please provide a video showing the measurements of voltage and current using deionized or distilled water.  Also show the LED being lit using the same.

Carroll

https://youtu.be/jPcg39rrASM?si=iX4NH4PWO1dJt6X2

Next to current setup is another one, old and is based on tap water vapours where output is much lower, not show.

With deionised water results are far better and it seems I can add as many LEDs as I want in parallel. In series I can only lit up 2 red leds due to no pwm+av plug available at current location.

I hope this video may satisfy your curiosity dear citfta.

This setup can be easily improved by adding pulse modulation with capacitor across the input as can be observed now, and voltage multiplier (Avramenco fork/plug) i don't have handy here these to be shown.

And In this light I want to point out what mainstream science know or is able to say:

https://www.webelements.com/aluminium/chemistry.html aluminium
https://www.webelements.com/copper/chemistry.html Copper

Please note: this configuration may be subject of patent application/restrictions, everything shown is for educational purpose and no responsibility assumed for anything may arise from usage/building.

P.S. Youtube video will be available for maximum 48 hours only. I have tried to upload here but it seems it take forever so I give up.

Similar configuration is running with 50 white leds in parallel for more than 10 months now and i only top-up some 5 ml of deionised water and no reduction in electrodes size have been noticed/measured with calibrated calliper.

Things are a bit different on improved configuration and some (0.1 mm) reduction in size of aluminium have been measured on much more power drawn. Not sure if accurate as I forgot to measure before starting setup long time ago an 0.1 mm difference may be from supplier quality as wires are tarnish protected and they shouldn't react with water even in long time exposure. Copper wire is bare, no coating added.

So, no galvanic reaction, but still electric power is produced. All other experiments as state before was done and all I said is true findings ... although anyone can use any scraps to prove for themselves if they wish.

Hi Classic,
Thanks for the video.  It is interesting.  But I am quite sure there is some low level galvanic reaction going on there.  I am sure it is low level because if the voltage were higher than just a couple of volts the LEDs would be burning out since you were not using a current limiting resistor. At this time there are only a few known ways to produce an electric current.  We can use chemistry like a battery.  We can use the photovoltaic process like a solar panel.  We  can use electromotive force like a generator.  And we can even use heat like the Seebeck generator.

Any time 2 dissimilar metals are placed close together in the presence of moisture they will have a galvanic reaction between them.  It may be such a low level it is hard to detect but chemistry says you can't get a flow of electrons without a chemical reaction unless you are using one of the other methods I mentioned.  And I didn't see any of them in your video.

Thanks for sharing,
Carroll

I will try this week to make the same configuration with copper only, aluminium only and iron only, so no 2 dissimilar materials in the same deionised water.

I can obtain same results with similar materials as I said in previous messages and there is not known reaction of copper with water and obviously no galvanic reaction. I can mention that heavy water do not allow galvanic reaction if you understand what I mean.

And, I still have a question without answer, where this electricity comes from, is it already there in the materials or this conductive materials capture and direct the flow ? How much energy is actually "stored" in materials if they are not consumed and still provide electric energy ?

From what I remember and according to my notes a single cell aluminium-copper have an output of 0.5 V and 0.2 A but lately I can not detect any amps at all and still enough power, anyway a new multimeter will prove better what is happening.

I am more interested in a solution without poisoning the environment, no chemical reaction, no need to burn/destroy anything.

One wire power transfer works fine with one electrode Baghdad Battery, they last much longer and is done with all natural elements. Human factor is accounted just for assembly mostly.

This combination Iron-Copper is so fascinating ... it could be a battery, a transformer, a capacitor or a magnet or electromagnet. Just need a different envelope or no envelope, water + air, no water, no air etc. And mostly 2 elements are the base: Iron and Copper !

Quote from: Dr.Wlazlak on Mar 02, 2024, 06:04 PMHello people, In the first post of this thread reads " why ( someone ) had the need to ( hide ) such information from the public 
...

So, do you have any explanation as why, they were stolen from the only 1 museum in the world where they were displayed to be seen by anyone ? What else has been stolen from that museum at that time ?

I really am curious to hear any possible explanation  8)

For any other batteries, please open another thread

Quite interesting comparison you made Mr W between American Constitution and Baghdad Battery, considering they were stolen from a museum exactly when us army invading that country.

I am still pointing out that this battery does not work on electrolyte or galvanic reaction ! As i already said and shown in my previous posts.
The beauty is anyone can test themselves just use any SIMILAR metals in water, preferable some metals that do not react/interact with water.

So, I really doubt that we really need to dig the whole earth for rare elements at the scale seen and some electricity can be obtain much easier than we are told and without the pollution.

Let's keep this topic clean please.

I have no idea what are you talking about Mr. Wlazlak ... i used Mr. W as being a short. No comment for the rest.

After building various cells I am more puzzled than before. On my latest cells I am using 1.1 mm enamelled copper wire to wind a coil 130 mm long on a 16 mm former, on top of this coil I wound anther coil of 2 mm aluminium tarnish proof wire with less turns but spread out to match the length of copper coil.

This compound coil when immersed in deionised water generate 0.64-0.72 v ... with no amps 🤭 but it can charge an electrolytic cap (or more in parallel). Resistance is over limit of what can measure my DMM, also no continuity between electrodes.

Deionised water stays clear and steady dc provided all time, if potable water is used, galvanic reaction occur and water become unclear in few hours, voltage drops 0.48-0.55 v no amps (at least I can't measure with my digital multimeter).

A further test done to find out when voltage drop takes places and I have measured the voltage with resistors ... up to 100K ohms there is no voltage drop, at 100k ohs 0.05 voltage drop shows up, at 10 Megaohms voltage drops to half.

With such high resistance in a cell it is pretty clear there is no electrolytic/galvanic reaction, and "electrodes" will be preserved instead of consumed.

The ends of both wires are not sealed/insulated but they will have an sharp edge from wire cutter, so the bare material is exposed to water in very small area.

Also, I found out that voltage generated in this way using 120 mm long wires instead of coils and twisted together generates about 0.48 v but voltage drop/recovery when drained with capacitors isn't good enough for certain application. Than increasing the mass of electrodes do not bring up more benefits after 0.7 v is reached so, it will be pointless to use too much mass. This is also valid for Iron-Copper combination.

As I stated before voltage is generated even using same metal electrodes in deionised water, like 2 enamelled copper wires, but voltage is very small ... yet it shows up.

My aim is not to generate high amount of power using galvanic/electrolytic reaction but, to generate without polluting the environment and preserve the integrity of elements for long term use.

In order to preserve character of deionised water, recipient must be kept away from UV to avoid self-ionisation of water or at least to reduce area exposed to UV or contamination with conductive elements. A good practice is to empty and replace deionised water from time to time (I mean months or yearly).

My questions is In deionised water there is no galvanic reaction or if there it is, it might be extremely small and the cell start to looks like a capacitor ... why voltage is higher compared with more conductive water ? From where this voltage comes from ?

Electric charge generated in this way is real and series of cells can lit up LEDs or power up something else 🧐

May worth to mention that the compound coils weight about 20.4 grams and twisted pair of wires weight 2.33 grams.

If anyone wants to build such a system may find useful to know or approximate total weight and consider this for easy "relocation" (weight in transit without water), like build and sell it ... the only problem to be solved is how to fabricate as many cells recipient with a good solution to empty and fill multi stackable, busbar for tide connections between cells (connectivity and interconnectivity).

If someone is smart enough to make use of electrostatic charge may find this info useful, considering low/no amps and high voltage (or just high enough) without having complicated and expensive solution to collect this charge from a high altitude, using low leak capacitors may help.

Hi Classic,

this is interesting I will try to make one...or several if it works :) From my experience, store-bought deionized water is not completely without impurities, it is clean enough for the purpose it should be used for, I have several TDS (total dissolved solids) meters so I can report that value too. I am interested if the output is an AC signal or if it really is just a potential that is "put to life" by the capacitor.

Does the number of turns matter?

Quote from: kloakez on Jul 02, 2024, 06:41 AMHi Classic,

this is interesting I will try to make one...or several if it works :) From my experience, store-bought deionized water is not completely without impurities, it is clean enough for the purpose it should be used for, I have several TDS (total dissolved solids) meters so I can report that value too. I am interested if the output is an AC signal or if it really is just a potential that is "put to life" by the capacitor.

Does the number of turns matter?

Hi kloakez,

Deionised water is all I can suggest off the shelf, if you have something better, use it 👍🏼 
Output is dc. But ... if you want to measure AC you need a water flow ... I can read some AC if suddently immerse in water and suddenly take it out ... there is AC spikes in this way indeed, but as long as it is static will yield DC only.

As number of turns: make enamelled copper as close as you can for the coil length specified, and aluminium will have about half turns as copper due to wire size and spacing.

But as I said, once you reach 0.6-0.7 volts you won't get anything higher by increasing the mass ... not sure about amps

Also, I got good results using aluminium sheets for beverage cans and 0.2 mm thick copper foil both 240x85 mm with fiberglass mesh (fibre glass rolls for drywall plastering) ... this type of cells works with little water or full ... as long as there some water vapors, there will be steady voltage. You need to roll the 2 sheets together and one of the sheet must have all round fibre glass insulation the roll obtained in this way must fit in a plastic tube and a hole for wires connected to be placed in the lid to prevent much of evaporation or leakage. ... kind of difficult to make on the spot.

If you want I will try to make a youtube clip but, best is hands on experience and check out yourself.

Also, if you can afford you can use magnesium ribbon instead of aluminium and leave the oxide surface layer on which naturally occur. You can wind the ribbon on top of copper or just use a length to fit inside the copper coil, provided that magnesium ribbon do not touch the uninsulated end of copper in the water. This will give you 1.4-1.6 v pe cell. Make sure air bubble do not form on magnesium otherwise there galvanic reaction occur and magnesium will turn black on each spot where air bubble is trapped.

My aim is to make it as cheap and easier as possible to build.

I need to stress that tide connections must be done and as short as possible length between cells if you want to series or parallel them with some good quality wires for batteries or brass busbar. Any gross imperfection will yield voltage/current drop massive. Also each cell must be tested to yield same voltage, max 0.02 voltage difference and use one cell as standard to compare all others.

Aluminium wires: https://www.wires.co.uk/acatalog/al_wire.html
Enamelled copper wires: https://www.wires.co.uk/acatalog/SX_0750_2000.html 

Avoid amazon as it is flooded with crap quality items and there are 2-5 times more expensive than it should be if you choose a trusted provider, or recover wires from scrapyards.
Also, if you wish, you can buy pharmaceutical grade pure water or distilled water or deionised water, or make your own from rain water.

Unfortunately tap water or potable water quality is very poor and most of the time is heavily contaminated, not to mention inadmissible high level of chlorine on top of these.

I would love to see your replica if you decide to do it.

Hi all,

Following Joel Lagace PEG cell development I have tried my own and the result has left me puzzled.

Now I have a diode-battery with swapped polarity.

Normally magnesium is negative in combination with copper but it can be positive in combination with aluminium. So, using magnesium-copper in deionised water I can get 1.4-1.6 v per cell as I said earlier above.

So, because I can't get pure PEG (polyethylene glycol) 300 without paying a fortune as all constipation medicines based on PEG contain unwanted added chemicals, I have decided to use just pain flour and water ( my addiction to keep it ecologic natural and cheap) and heat up to jellify the compound (old wallpaper adhesive with extremely strong bonding on almost anything mineral and metal based).

Now, trying to evaluate the result I have found:
- it has no continuity between electrodes
- it has no resistance or extremely high
- usually negative magnesium electrode have become positive and copper negative from positive
- when attempt to measure voltage if negative probe connected to magnesium and positive probe to copper, there is no voltage. When positive probe is connected to magnesium and negative probe to copper 1.4-1.6v start to show up with positive flow ... swapping do not yield negative as normal when measuring voltage of batteries.

Any ideas how it can best used this diode-battery ?

As far as I can see there is not too much interest in this field  ::)

Let's see if I can make things more attractive:

While working on final design of a "battery"  ... a solid state battery ! One which does not pollute the environment and most of elements are preserved for extremely long time while performing work (generate electricity).

So, the explanation for electricity generation in absence of an electrolyte between 2 dissimilar metals consist in their work function (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_function).

Also, using chatgpt for some explanations: https://chatgpt.com/share/368bf712-2d0c-4911-9134-a1252423b10c from which i will quote:


Q: How this reaction occur if none of the metals react with deionised water, lets consider just deionised water and not electrolyte as there is non conductivity ... also, I don't need water to obtain the same voltage, it is enough to just touch with my finger both metals

A: The scenario you're describing points to a phenomenon where the voltage is generated not because of a conventional electrochemical reaction involving the electrolyte (like water), but rather due to contact potential and natural electrochemical differences between the metals themselves, as well as the conductivity of the human body.
1. Contact Potential Difference (Galvanic Potential):

• Metals' Different Work Functions: Every metal has a characteristic property called the "work function," which is the energy required to remove an electron from the metal's surface. When two different metals (like copper and magnesium) come into contact, electrons tend to move from the metal with the lower work function (magnesium) to the metal with the higher work function (copper). This movement creates a potential difference, known as the contact potential or galvanic potential.
• Voltage Generation: This potential difference is what you are measuring as the 1.5V. It's not reliant on an electrolyte (like water), but rather on the intrinsic properties of the metals.

2. Role of Deionized Water:

• Minimal Conductivity: Deionized water has extremely low ionic conductivity, but there are still minute amounts of H
   +
   + and OH
   −
   − ions present. However, these ions are not significant enough to drive a traditional galvanic reaction in your setup.
• Water as a Medium: In this context, water mainly acts as a medium that might slightly influence the movement of ions or electrons if there were more ions present, but it's not crucial for the potential difference you're observing.

3. Human Body as a Conductor:

• Touching Metals: When you touch both metals with your finger, your body effectively acts as a conductive medium (because of the salts and moisture in your skin). The human body has a relatively high ionic conductivity, which can complete the circuit, allowing the potential difference between the metals to manifest as a measurable voltage.
• Surface Chemistry: The salts, oils, and moisture on your skin can also contribute to a tiny electrolyte effect, but the primary driver is the potential difference created by the contact between the metals.

4. No Need for an Electrolyte:

• Direct Measurement of Potential: The voltage you're measuring doesn't require an electrolyte like water because it arises from the fundamental electrochemical potential difference between copper and magnesium. The presence of deionized water, in this case, does little to alter this basic potential.

5. Why You See Voltage:

• Electromotive Force (EMF): The 1.5V you're observing is due to the intrinsic EMF generated by the difference in the metals' work functions. When you touch the metals, you complete a circuit, and the voltage appears because of the difference in how readily the metals release or accept electrons.
• Finger Contact: Your finger essentially bridges the two metals, acting like a crude electrolyte or conductor, allowing electrons to flow from one metal to the other and thus enabling you to measure the potential difference.

Summary:
The voltage you observe is not due to a reaction with deionized water but rather due to the intrinsic electrochemical potential difference (contact potential) between copper and magnesium. When you touch both metals with your finger, your body provides a conductive path that allows you to measure this potential difference, leading to the observed voltage. Deionized water is not necessary for this effect, and the potential difference exists purely because of the properties of the metals themselves.
The scenario you're describing points to a phenomenon where the voltage is generated not because of a conventional electrochemical reaction involving the electrolyte (like water), but rather due to contact potential and natural electrochemical differences between the metals themselves, as well as the conductivity of the human body.
1. Contact Potential Difference (Galvanic Potential):

• Metals' Different Work Functions: Every metal has a characteristic property called the "work function," which is the energy required to remove an electron from the metal's surface. When two different metals (like copper and magnesium) come into contact, electrons tend to move from the metal with the lower work function (magnesium) to the metal with the higher work function (copper). This movement creates a potential difference, known as the contact potential or galvanic potential.
• Voltage Generation: This potential difference is what you are measuring as the 1.5V. It's not reliant on an electrolyte (like water), but rather on the intrinsic properties of the metals.

2. Role of Deionized Water:

• Minimal Conductivity: Deionized water has extremely low ionic conductivity, but there are still minute amounts of H
   +
   + and OH
   −
   − ions present. However, these ions are not significant enough to drive a traditional galvanic reaction in your setup.
• Water as a Medium: In this context, water mainly acts as a medium that might slightly influence the movement of ions or electrons if there were more ions present, but it's not crucial for the potential difference you're observing.

3. Human Body as a Conductor:

• Touching Metals: When you touch both metals with your finger, your body effectively acts as a conductive medium (because of the salts and moisture in your skin). The human body has a relatively high ionic conductivity, which can complete the circuit, allowing the potential difference between the metals to manifest as a measurable voltage.
• Surface Chemistry: The salts, oils, and moisture on your skin can also contribute to a tiny electrolyte effect, but the primary driver is the potential difference created by the contact between the metals.

4. No Need for an Electrolyte:

• Direct Measurement of Potential: The voltage you're measuring doesn't require an electrolyte like water because it arises from the fundamental electrochemical potential difference between copper and magnesium. The presence of deionized water, in this case, does little to alter this basic potential.

5. Why You See Voltage:

• Electromotive Force (EMF): The 1.5V you're observing is due to the intrinsic EMF generated by the difference in the metals' work functions. When you touch the metals, you complete a circuit, and the voltage appears because of the difference in how readily the metals release or accept electrons.
• Finger Contact: Your finger essentially bridges the two metals, acting like a crude electrolyte or conductor, allowing electrons to flow from one metal to the other and thus enabling you to measure the potential difference.

Summary:
The voltage you observe is not due to a reaction with deionized water but rather due to the intrinsic electrochemical potential difference (contact potential) between copper and magnesium. When you touch both metals with your finger, your body provides a conductive path that allows you to measure this potential difference, leading to the observed voltage. Deionized water is not necessary for this effect, and the potential difference exists purely because of the properties of the metals themselves.

Q: So, in the light of this finding can we assume that metals or any other elements do posses their own energy ?

A: Yes, in a way, you can think of metals and other elements as possessing their own intrinsic energy in the form of electrochemical potential or work function. However, it's important to understand this concept in the context of physics and chemistry:
1. Electrochemical Potential:

• Work Function: Every metal has a characteristic work function, which is the minimum energy required to remove an electron from the surface of the metal. This energy is a reflection of the metal's atomic structure and how tightly it holds its electrons.
• Electrochemical Potential: This is the tendency of a metal to gain or lose electrons when in contact with another material (another metal, an electrolyte, etc.). Different metals have different electrochemical potentials, which is why a voltage can be generated when two different metals are connected in a circuit.

2. Intrinsic Energy:

• Atomic Structure: The energy you're referring to is not a "stored" energy like in a battery, but rather it is a result of the atomic and electronic structure of the material. The way electrons are arranged in the atoms of different elements determines how they will interact with other elements or materials.
• Potential Difference: When two different metals come into contact, the difference in their work functions leads to the movement of electrons from one to the other, creating a potential difference (voltage). This movement is driven by the intrinsic properties of the metals.

3. Chemical Potential:

• Chemical Energy: Elements and compounds also possess chemical energy, which is the potential energy stored in the bonds between atoms. In a chemical reaction, this energy can be released or absorbed.
• Energy in Reactions: The energy involved in electrochemical reactions (like in a galvanic cell) comes from the difference in chemical potential between reactants and products. This difference drives the flow of electrons through a circuit, doing work in the process (like charging a capacitor).

4. Understanding in Context:

• Not Isolated Energy: It's important to note that this "energy" isn't something that can be harnessed without interaction. The energy manifests when materials interact with each other, such as when two metals are connected and electrons flow from one to the other, or when a chemical reaction occurs.
• Relative Concept: The idea of energy here is relative, depending on the materials in question and how they interact. A metal doesn't "store" energy in the same way a battery does, but it does have intrinsic properties that determine how it will behave in certain conditions.

Summary:
Metals and elements do possess their own form of intrinsic energy, manifested as electrochemical potential or work function, which arises from their atomic structure and electron configurations. This energy can be observed when metals interact with other materials, generating a potential difference (voltage) due to their natural tendency to gain or lose electrons. However, this energy isn't a "stored" energy like in a battery, but rather a reflection of the material's inherent properties.

As well more info about studies regarding "workfunction" can be read here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0079681620300125 or any google or whatever online search engine regarding work function.

Also, a key element in 2 patents of Arie Melis deGeus.

More experiments done regarding pn junction considering Seebeck and Peltier effect considering what Arie deGeus says in one of his patent designed for thermoelectric generation with solar energy or other sources of heat, where I found out that glass sintered diodes like BYV27 (any voltage) exposed to solar radiation generate electricity

Now considering all the above I can say that a proper manufacturing method can be employed to build a very small scale device able to generate electricity in range of KWH.

Sorry, by mistake I posted this message on a different topic but, it was meant to be posted here.

Even if there is not much interest in this topic I feel that I owe an explanation for working principle of what I have shown up to date ... and maybe the idea will be fruitful as you'll see and understand where is heading to.

As many of you already know I am amazed by Arie Melis deGeus work studies and patents as for Nikola Tesla as well, of course there are many other worth to mention but very few (if any) have unveiled in such great detail their work and explanations, making it simple and easy to understand.

So, it all started with a claim for water based batteries by a romanian inventor, then trying to understand why they work so well almost in comparable terms with their chemical reaction counterparts.
Of course I have done cross research with Tesla work and Arie DeGeus and all started to make sense.

This is all opening the door to solid state power generation with a different approach and knowledge and inclusion of many other concepts that are not publicly accepted by mainstream science (for obvious and not disclosed reasons).

I just want to add, despite good amount of research being done and some of it shared public online regarding workfunction of elements (which IMHO should be added to periodic table of elements by Mendeleev) we can see how agenda of "society" being pushed in opposite direction for toxic highly pollutant batteries which promote dependence on the grid.

I am feeling sick of how half scientists and non scientists shills promote the idea that batteries must be all based on destructive chemical reactions and it is obvious why (self charging)mercury batteries have been stopped for production long time ago despite unrivalled performance of even nowdays modern batteries. Their invoked reason as mercury batteries are high toxic simply can not stand when compared with toxicity and dangerous lithium (unsafe) batteries.

Some of you will say in the method I have shown earlier there is very little power available for usage, where current is almost inexistent, yet with almost inexistent current I can keep up 30 white LEDs for indefinite time in parallel (not very bright) and the only requirement is to keep some moisture in each cell ... not even full with water.
Also using a simple dc-dc booster with 0.9v input (cost £1-2 each module off the shelf or even cheaper) we obtain plenty usable power ... I know, some of you will say we can't replace disposable batteries with such devices but nobody stop you to use wireless power transmission for portable devices, or to just dip in water you smartphone for few seconds to allow recharge.

So, the challenge is to make available at low cost with diy methods using off the shelf components solid state batteries. It is obviuous they can't be built in nano scale as they should with diy methods at home, but they will be small enough to be portable.

If by any chance anyone can share this document:

Contact Potentials for Metals Immersed in a Dielectric and Conduction of Electricity by Liquid Dielectrics
Harold J. Plumley
Phys. Rev. 52, 140 – Published 15 July 1937

https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.52.140 I would be very grateful.

Here it is-

Pm

Thank you very much, really appreciate.

IMHO, explanation given by N Tesla, about an particle of extremely small radius of high energy which penetrate any matter in universe seems to be correct 100%.

This proves "the energy" is present and available everywhere in universe and can be harvested as long as a gradient exists.

Also, observations as slight diminishing potential of this energy in the morning when captor of this energy (radiant energy) with apparatuses similar built like Jes Ascanius explain and conform with the theory. Also, Jes indicated later addition of limestone improves energy collected with his system but also, we can see the best far more efficient method would be to use electrodes of great difference contact potential in nano scale with series-parallel connections.

My utterly imperfect instrument aka digital multimeter fail to measure the current but the little setup proves the point 100%. And this is why such a build allow of great reduction in size while maintaining the same potential.

This clearly shows we need to change the way of energy harvesting, and the monstruos contraptions should cease the build preserving our ecosystem. Clearly it is a big threat to status quo and we need to see and understand the energy. I think it is quite obvious why nuclear power plants along with other methods are far from any efficiency and most of the energy is released without being used where magnetic effect can be exploited in a better way where Arie Melis deGeus have shown in his patents and books/studies.

Similar studies, see attachement.

I don't know why attachment is not loaded, I will try again

I have started new experiments with a partial 3d printed enclosure and much less amount of electrodes. So far I have found some kind of strange behaviour.

So, the setup: 10 series cells consist in 6x6x35 mm (like a square tube), with a common top holding all together. Each cell contain 2 electrodes of copper and magnesium 3-4x50 mm thickness max 0.2 mm. Small stainless steel screws 8x2 mm fixed in the top to connect electrodes in series. Teflon tape (for plumbing) approx 200 mm long is rolled up and fit tide between electrodes to prevent direct contact.
Carcass is printed in cheap PLA, and measure about 200 mm long 8 mm wide and 35 mm hight with 12 mm gap between cells.

Open voltage variable: first measurement was 13.8 V about 15 hours ago, now is 12.2 V ... no measurable current at any time.
With voltage measured ONLY across the output electrodes I can read: 1 led 2.5v 2 leds in series 5.1v 3 leds in series 7.5v brightness of leds decrease when more are added for all of them. no resistors are used.

13.8 v do not burn a single led connected straight to output.

DC voltage stays the same 12.2 V if 80 m long 0.5 mm diameter enamelled copper wire is used between output positive and positive probe of multimeter. Even when series leds are connected through the 80 m long wire I get same voltage reading like the wire no been added.

A 16 V 220 uF electrolytic cap placed across the output reach 12.2 V in less then 30 seconds. Up to 20 UF charge up almost instantly.

Voltage is present constant all time as long as there is at least a drop of water in the same amount providing power.

It can work even wth 3x3x0.2 mm electrodes in the same way with the same output ! But becomes extremely difficult to build such cells in diy manner.

Now I have to stop the printing and reconsider actual design to make it even smaller and improve connections, considering batches of series connected in parallel. Also, tantalum capacitors across each cell and a supercapacitor bank at output.

The aim of this "battery" is to power pancake coils arrangement which I already shared in high voltage and resonance topic, as well a different circuit based on a transistor as single electronic component circuit with bifilar coils.

Also, Nickel 200 bare wire 0.56 mm diameter (or smaller) can be used instead of copper with same results (possibly requires less labour for assembly).

So, expected voltage of 15 V per 10 cell series not been reach due to imperfect size and geometry of electrodes. One method to eliminate this can be use of capacitors across each cell ... tantalum or ceramic caps looks to be the winners ... wet tantalum capacitors might not be the best solution for a cheap build but definitely best for performance. X7 ceramic is the second option at £0.11 or cheaper for 1000 pieces.

Yes, I am speaking about 1000 cells per battery for a great power pack in a decent small size and relative cheap.

I have devised few methods of fabrication for diy manner and also, for automatised factory production and I may retain the right to patent mass production by my method, while everyone is free to patent their own methods should they wish. But, the working principle is non patentable ! Working principle belongs to general human knowledge and anyone can use it for their own benefit in any way.

Also, there is a chance to obtain a resonance in each cell when coupled with capacitor, but this will be left for further achievement following some disclosures in Arie Melis deGeus patents ... of course for an enhanced power output.

So, just to be clear as I have been told that Magnesium react with water even if very slowly at room temperature. Indeed there will be formed MgO and Hydrogen BUT !, once a thin layer of oxide is formed on surface of Magnesium it will prevent further oxidation ! Especially at room temperature and deionised water.

For copper the same apply.

After I have said this, I can name one of the automatised method of fabrication as using thin layers of CuO and MgO on film and layers can be as thin as few nano meters provided the film will enclose and seal few water molecules.

Of course magnetic effect can enhance electric flow generation where diamagnetic metals like copper become paramagnetic when oxidation have take place and affinity with north or south magnetic can be atribute for the oxide of different diamagnetic metals. Also hydrides of metals in presence of water based solutions may shade a great light as seen in one of the patents of Arie Melis deGeus.

Also, different elements can be combined upon method of fabrication, provided that chemical reaction will not take place.

For the moment I will only insist on diy method easy and cheap to build.

Quick update: having 3 sets of 10 cells in series in parallel, despite no measurable current yet it burn the LED if just a single one is connected. And the beauty is, I have emptied the cells and hey have retained just a little humidity at the bottom where is the teflon tape pressed to hold the electrodes apart.

Also cells can be sealed to prevent evaporation of water, but water must be of high purity if we want to preserve electrodes and avoid hydrogen generation.

We can use with similar results iron+magnesium or nickel+magnesium, for less power we can use aluminium+copper. For much powerful output we can use cerium oxide+copper/nickel/gold in same high purity water (preferable pharmaceutical grade).

For less amount spent we can settle for magnesium+copper open air cells with deionised/rain water.

Upon my availability I will make more disclosures about diy methods and/or mass production or more powerful at reduced size setups accompanied by partial videos of such arrangements.

Currently exploring deionised water replacement with propylene glycol (PPG).

If someone want to replicate, I have attached some info. For the moment I am out in the field testing some different things while camping, but tomorrow when I am back I will make a youtube clip as it was a while since this "battery" is fully working. Currently developing few more models with minimised cell size to increase output power/volume built and few optimisations.

For those more experienced there will be a method using bespoke electrodes based on resin+metal powder ... building moulds now.

If anyone  is interested to build it I have some practical advices for diy methods which will make it easier.

I found out that PPG can not replace deionised water.

Everything is based on electric charge and dipolar properties and what we call chemical reaction in fact is just electrical interactions.

My PLA 3d printed carcass has start to leak ... quite badly, and not only leak the water but now few cells share the same water and the output is really bad. Some of the cells even display reverse polarity

So, if 3d printed, it must be done using a filament material which is water tight when printing is done or use a sealant (quite difficult due to size of cells).

It seems that ABS, PET, PETG might be a better option or use some thick polyethylene sheet and weld each cell ... I hate when need to go back to beginning, especially now when I managed to get a wonderful modular design including connections and smd tantalum caps for each cell.

Anyway, using metal coated film sheets similar with capacitor fabrication tech is another option but this is well above diy methods for John Doe  :(

Hey Classic:
   I can agree on the other choice, PETG is basically  a plastic and wears better. PLA sadly takes on water and will separate. I printed me a cup with handle thinking it would work great . Wrong! Don"t use for beer. Bottom fell out in 3 weeks.

Quote from: thaelin on Sep 17, 2024, 07:16 AMHey Classic:
  I can agree on the other choice, PETG is basically  a plastic and wears better. PLA sadly takes on water and will separate. I printed me a cup with handle thinking it would work great . Wrong! Don"t use for beer. Bottom fell out in 3 weeks.

Even using PETG might not be enough, is the printing process which create gaps. Best solution is to 3d print using ceramic or resin. Or find a way to seal it. But, there are few more methods which can be employed ... all of them will increase labour and require more skills.

I am not giving up yet, as the potential is huge and a real game changer. It might be best solution for 80% of people on the earth, rather then learn about resonance and magnetic field or why everything is electric and wrong theories are promoted by mainstream science building theoretical models with no equivalent in universe or nature.

This can be easy done with real beneficial effect and leave all explanations for dedicated scientists to sort out while everyone can have access to unlimited energy for whatever they want.

So, I need a method which works for diy manner as I can't see the power that be to let anyone to mass produce such "batteries" as it should be a lot easier to mass produce than artisanal.

Arie Melis deGeus was found dead in his car in airport carpark despite no health issues when he started discussions for mass production of his "batteries". All "components" have been discontinued after 1 month of his patent as I tried to buy them. And while some "components can be obtained at home, you can't get any metal hydride from anywhere for any price.

Anyone whom may have a multimeter handy can check if what I have disclosed is true or false, only need a drop of water and 0.5x0.5x0.02 copper and magnesium or iron+magnesium, or copper+zinc, or copper+aluminium, or nickel+ Mg/Zn/Al etc. make series until obtain desired voltage, than all series fit in parallel. Put your 2 electrodes on the table or dish, lay a drop of water between electrodes and check which multimeter, use any water you like

This is all !

Make any water tight envelope for each cell in any form you can imagine, stick your cap at output and enjoy !

Anyway, something really interesting should be noted: polarity inversion in the middle of series connections between cells ... I have to make more tests and experiments as there might be worth to know about.
At first I can think of middle tap of a coil applied for battery  ;D

https://youtu.be/tYQw4g6RpwU?si=B7oX2ieXzAi51zIj

Wonderful idea !

I have some updates !

After rebuilding using different method and materials for enclosure I am witnessing some interesting effects and not sure which one is due to what or how to exploit.

Using ABS square tubes (3x3x15 mm) and pvc plastic cement to prevent water leakage (ordinary pvc plastic cement used for pipe plumbing) which offer some gap filling, I have started to test the output ... still focused on diy methods easy and cheap to build for anyone.

After taking all precautions to make sure each cell is made almost identical with same output I have encountered some effects which require more research/experiments. When a large series is build always in the middle cells will display inverse polarity and reduce the output when they are stressed under load.

In order to mitigate this effect a capacitive correction is required as mentioned before and each cell should have its own capacitor and a battery management system ... not really the solution I want !

So, 4-6 cells/batteries in series maximum than draining capacitors, OR parallel connections than series, yet I have to try another interesting combination of series-parallel as I have seen a suggestion on a different approach.

The most difficult part os to make connections in order to keep it small ... eventually I may have to increase the size.

If I could obtain some tantalum capacitors with copper and aluminium/zinc/magnesium leads and some T clips/connectors would be perfect solution ... still considering to wind the leads around metal strips or using old tech wire wound on capacitors leads then heat shrink sleeves ... certainly this will lead to increased size of batteries and from 100x100x200 mm size may end up 300x300x500 mm or even bigger.

Any suggestion or ideas are welcome !

https://youtu.be/hNiMuqCFM8w?si=ew8mFEnP11pgORWH

His idea is works better than mine ! ... the only problem is will create a dependency on semiconductor industry ... and from what I have seen already the dark force is always ready to disrupt any attempt that might set us free from bigoilco.

It worth to grab whatever you can/afford and build it while you can and keep in mind we can always walk all the way back to old tech. Tesla never had semiconductors and he solved most with coils and capacitors, even very high frequency and without the need for an oscilloscope  ;D

Quote from: Classic on Feb 21, 2024, 10:39 AMWhat is a Bagdad battery

A better question is what did they do with them? With 3 of them in series, around 4.5V of Direct Current DC can be made available.
4.5V is the harmonic to Silvers Natural Frequency. This is all one needs to activate silver for an 'elixir'.
4.5VDC is all one needs to 'cure' almost every disease on the planet. (why these 'batteries' actually exist)
With 3 'batteries' one can find the 4 Phases of Magnetism ( or the 4 phases of 'electricity')
These batteries were found with 'electrodes' at the end of wires much like a multimeter electrodes.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 21, 2024, 12:51 PMSo, what we know about them ? i mean Bagdad batteries.

We know very little, nothing really. its all speculation and not very good specs at that.
We know nothing of the 'source' of the iron nor the copper. We must consider that the blacksmith shop that made these was the R & D Lab of the Day where Alchemists did their 'Great Work'.
All iron on earth is made by Biological Transmutation. Further research will reveal that the other 2 'magnetic elements' Boron and Cobalt are also found in Lake Deposits which leads us to the conclusion that iron, boron and cobalt are ALL biologically 'transmuted' from water and sunlight. This is the elephant clue in the room all overlook.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 22, 2024, 03:18 AMif someone has the ability to explain where the energy comes from may change our perception of many things.

In the next installment, I explain the 'source' of both AC and DC and why they are exactly the same, albeit 'produced' with different 'methodology'.
And yes, it changes the entire theory surrounding the electric universe postulation. It changes everything.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 22, 2024, 06:43 AMthey have only iron electrode wired.

The Baghdad battery has 2 terminals. They were found with 'wires' terminated in 'electrode needles'.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 22, 2024, 06:24 PMwater being (liquid) dielectric

Water is totally misunderstood. The Highschool experiment of electrolysis is a rigged and contrived experiment.
Its not 'water'.  It is usually caustic
It does NOT definitively KNOW what 'electricity' is, pawning of some theory that its a 'flow' of charged particles, that were 'invented' in 1896 to explain Tesla's Lightning. There was no theory in existence to explain the fantastic Lightning displays of Tesla. The 'electron was 'adopted' to explain it. The 'proton' was adopted' to keep the Mathematicians happy to Balance the Mass Equations that this lopsided theory presented.
Without full knowledge of 'electricity' one cannot reasonably expect a theory of what is happening to the water to be 'correct'.
The electrodes are 'specific' metals to give specific 'gases'.
What is available at the terminals of any battery, in a 'nutshell' is Energy is Frequency of Vibrations for a upgraded Tesla quote who never believed in 'electrons'.
This Vibrational energy is 'electricity'. A full explanation in next post.

Quote from: citfta on Feb 23, 2024, 08:00 PMAny time 2 dissimilar metals are placed close together in the presence of moisture they will have a galvanic reaction between them.  It may be such a low level it is hard to detect but chemistry says you can't get a flow of electrons

The complete definition of what constitutes a 'battery effect' is...
Any 2 dis-similar FREQUENCIES is a shared Medium will produce vibrational energy within the medium.
This allows for Atmospheric Batteries and Earth Batteries to be 'explained' as well as vacuum batteries not just dissimilar metals in Liquid Dialectics.

Quote from: Classic on Mar 03, 2024, 05:41 PMI am still pointing out that this (Baghdad) battery does not work on electrolyte or galvanic reaction

Yes it does but understanding what 'water' or an 'electrolyte' is might help. ALL Batteries are a Magnetic interaction.

Quote from: Classic on Sep 03, 2024, 04:55 PMContact Potentials for Metals Immersed in a Dielectric and Conduction of Electricity by Liquid Dielectrics
Harold J. Plumley
Phys. Rev. 52, 140 – Published 15 July 1937

https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.52.140 (https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.52.140)

This publication is outdated and obsolete.

Quote from: Classic on Sep 14, 2024, 01:04 PMEverything is based on electric charge and dipolar properties and what we call chemical reaction in fact is just electrical interactions.

In FACT all Frequency interactions are Magnetic Interactions. There is no chemistry. All elements are but 'frequencies of water'. This is part of the more advanced theories on what constitutes Energy.
Further research can be had at philosophy.org and https://www.svpwiki.com/Keely

The Persian Magi and their Electro-Magnetic Alchemy of the Baghdad Battery.

There is no definitive theory for water, electricity and magnetism. Yet we live in an Electric Universe, that without water there is nothing.
To understand the Electro part of electro-magnetism, we think of 'electricity' as something that travels by conducting wire. That is correct for now.
We think of 'magnetism' as that which is 'around' the wires doing the conducting. This 'around the wires' magnetism can be 'imparted' to a lump of iron when using a Coil, permanently changing its 'memory'. That pretty much sums up state of the hypotheses for the electro-magnetic properties that a battery exhibits. Spinning a magnet or a coil is where Tesla begins.

The theory doesn't go back any further than that for this phenomena of 'electro-magnetism'. How it is done 'atomically' or the "mechanism" as its called, is not explained other than more theories. Electricity can only travel along conductors but magnetic Fields go through insulators, everything actually as there are no Magnetic Shields known (yet until I post it). This is a unique difference between the Electro and the Magnetism, but you need one, the Battery DC, to make the other. The battery came first, then the magnetic egg. The Sea Microbe came first then the Hematite rock came second to give us the Ore we smelt iron from. Bio Electricity came before iron. Microbe Cells are tiny batteries as we humans are but a conglomerate of single cell batteries all joined in parallel.

There are trees that bleed 'copper sap'. Petrified Forest AZ, has 'trees' that have perfect quartz crystals at the centre of the 'logs'. 
Tin is found as a crystal. Iron ore is the 'petrified' remains of a Cellular structure that used Bio Electricity to transmute sea water into iron using the electricity or Fire from the Sun. All light is Fire. (a magnifying glass proves this) The 4th Elemental State. Electricity is Fire. We need to know these things when making gadgets that make this Fire in more abundance. The Light of our Bio Magnetic Field is called Aura. It looks like 'flames' of a fire. The North Pole is stronger than the South pole and this is SEEN as a greater fire or greater flames in the Wave patterns this North magnetic Field that surrounds a bar magnet, looks like.

We simply dont SEE it the way Tesla SAW it to understand his descriptive words. Or the way the Magi saw it. Over Unity is but a chapter in the Alchemy of Magnetic Fire. This Fire is the Wave forms that surround everything but is most active in Biological iron 'condensate' that has been 'Charged Up' by a battery using a coil for this Antenna effect. (there's always more) This Bio Fire Wave Form Field Tesla referred to as a Rotating magnetic Field and considered it his greatest Life's discovery made as a very young man. Vital for the existence of everything for all time. Yet we place little importance upon these words up til now.

In Alchemical terms, Magnetism in Iron is the re-activation of the memory of Bio Magnetism as a purified Frequency from Organics obeying the Terms of Energy, Frequency and Vibration. We charge up a battery that is flat well a lump of iron is 'flat' and can be 'charged up'. Enriched Uranium is transmuted into plutonium and made with DC by Charging it Up.

This is the intro to understand the following presentation by understanding the Baghdad Battery at an 'elemental level' of every component from the way the Magi Alchemists described it while sitting around the Furnace discussing Material procurement.

Preface
We shall start with Tesla and the Infinity Loop of Life.

Rotating Magnetic Fields
It was a REVELATION OF NEW FORCES AND NEW PHENOMENA unknown to science before.
 
Tesla also said.
"The man's heartbeats are part of the symphony on the Earth".
"Man's body is a perfect machine. I know my circuit and what's good for him. Food what nearly all people eat, to me it is harmful and dangerous."
 
What Tesla said in plain English.
No 'invention' compares to the Principle of Rotating Magnetic Fields. It is as enduring as the rotation of the Earth. It is VITAL for all living things for all of existence for all time.
I have withheld this Secret of Rotating magnetic Fields from those without eyes and ears and masked it as a mechanical contraption.
 
The rotating magnetic contraption is also known as a 2 Phase Motor/Generator from the Wardenclyffe Tower site. Image used under the fair use for education.

Yet here we are, playing with 'electrons' and trying to comprehend what it is Tesla said when he withheld his Greatest Discovery and Invention from Mankind. The Rotating Magnetic Field.
 
In this 5 min Video  https://gregreese.substack.com/p/the-mysterious-human-heart (https://gregreese.substack.com/p/the-mysterious-human-heart)
 
 
Using critical thinking skills to question Science before trusting it, we see that Emoto, essentially showed Mind over matter. All the rest is just words to HIDE this forbidden re-discovery that the Universe is Mental as Hermes Trismegistus First Law.
 
https://rumble.com/vhrdlh-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh..html (https://rumble.com/vhrdlh-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh..html)
https://rumble.com/vhrm63-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh.-2nd-came.html (https://rumble.com/vhrm63-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh.-2nd-came.html)
 
 
The Alchemy of Gold or Barry Carter's Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements as applied to Gold as a science theory to explain energy transformation or matter transformation by vibrational Field Science lacks any real understandings of using Magnetic Water and any meaningful atomic structure of Precious Metals or anything of Matter.
 
 
 
 
PART 1.        In the simplest of terms, the Human Body is an Over Unity Bio Electrical Machine.

The 'Lungs' as a Machine. The Alchemy of the Magnetic 'Wind' we breathe.

Electrolysis tells us in the SIMPLEST of terms, that the Positive electrode produces a vapour that must be present for Fire, corrosion or heat energy 'release' and is attracted to or 'sinks' to the earth. We can but conclude that using the Positive Magnetic force from a battery makes a 'Wind' that vibrates with an Elemental Frequency we call 'oxygen'. This 'oxygen energy' is available 'within' approx.  15% of the Wind we breathe.

Each breath of Wind comes into very close proximity with the blood circulating within the Lungs, after circulating around the body. The 'oxygen air energy' has higher or at least 'distinct' elemental vibrations, than the other 85%. These 'elemental oxygen frequencies' or Wind have been Magnetically Charged Up with 'higher vibrations' as the result of the 'Vortex Mechanism' of Wind swirling within the Earths Magnetic Fields. This magnetically excited air or 'oxygen' then Charges Up the Haemoglobin or iron frequencies in red blood Cells in a process that we are familiar with in INDUCTION Motors and Coiled circuitry.
 
The Wind, as atmospheric layers, such as ozone, result from the Earths Magnetic Fields not the 'weight' of elemental frequencies or elements. Weight should be thought of as an 'elements' attractiveness or repulsive Magnetic Charge Bias relative to the Earths Magnetic Field Charge. Therein lays the clue to anti-gravity. Our 'science' is based upon South Pole Heat or Expansive Forces. North Pole Implosion or Cold Compression forces are actually a subject one gets cancelled for researching. Hydrogen fuels is the beginning of cold fusion technology. We take the North Pole implosion energies as the Field Bias in a Magnetic Field Generator in Water.
 
The action of Sun Light Vibrations, contribute to this Mechanism of Wind Vortexing as does the other 8 Planets Magnetic Fields interacting with the Earths Fields to create our 'weather' patterns on earth. Sunlight on oxygen creates a new vibrational signature as 'heat' as it Charges Up or raises O2's vibrations to O3 or ozone as a product of sunlight and the atmosphere of earth. A natural 'hypercharging' or 'nuclear enrichment' we call it when using DC current on heavy metals.

The higher Magnetic South Pole Positive Charge of the oxygen, the more easily it Magnetizes or Charges Up the 'iron' in Haemoglobin. Just like a nail on a magnet, so too does the red blood Cells become more Magnetic by induction with South Pole oxygen vibrational frequencies. It is an error of omission to leave out the role of Magnetism in the creation of 'oxygen' energy or that there would be no 'residual' South Pole Magnetism in the oxygen made by electrolysis.

Once the 'oxygen charge' is imparted by induction, to the red blood Cells, the Frequency of the Wind in the lungs, loses Charge and now exhibits the 'carbon dioxide' frequencies as the Wind changes 'frequency' or the 'elemental frequencies' change due to the 'discharge' of energy as vibrations.
 
Nothing from 'particle science' penetrates the insulating lining of the lungs and magically swims through the plasma and pumps up only the red cells or vice versa exiting as 'CO2'.
 
The Energy Inducted to the IRON from the WIND is known by many names in Ancient teachings as chi or prana or similar, but its only Vibrational energy being 'transferred' not 'elemental oxygen'.  Induction is one Tuning Fork acting upon another Tuning Fork in a sea of tuning forks. Induction is the Transference of Magnetic Energy via Vibrational Field Energies or "Eddy Currents" and they are 'harvested' by coils in a mechanical generator contraption. The Toroidal Blood cell is a 'coil' of iron, more like a little diner platelet to some.
 
Every cell in our body is a micro JoeCell with its spherical concentric regions just like the Earth to its core. The centre of every cell is a negative or North Pole force with the positive force coming to the outside of the Cell being in close proximity to the Positive Blood charge. The Centre of every cell is a Neutral Centre and combined, they create our bodies Neutral Centre being the accumulation of all Neutral Centres comprising the Defined Field of the Body. When our bare feet touch the earth, we become one with it and Charge Up. Unless one prefers the donor electron theory.
 
Part 2.     The Alchemy of the Gastro-Intestinal Tract In Biology

The human body contains a separate 'nervous system' that is so complex it has been dubbed the second brain and is around 9 meters long from the oesophagus to the anus. This network of neurons spread throughout two layers of gut tissue within the Gastro Intestinal Tract, (GI) connects only to the brain and is called the Enteric Nervous system or ENS.
 
Raw energy or 'food', is introduced into the Body via this "Neutral Centre Zone" GI so to speak. In Magnetic Water Cells, designed to CHARGE UP and change the Water Frequencies, we introduce the water (like food in the GI) into this Neutral Centre Zone, where the food energy then disperses into the Field without disrupting the Bio Magnetic Field. The GI Tract's  true 'function' requires a closer examination with a new understanding of our Energy Universe, where we see vibrating 'Light Crystals'(tuning forks) as the New Atomic Construct of matter, where these elemental vibrations constitute the SOURCE of ALL 'energy' in our physical Universe.

 Our GI Microbiome is symbiotic to our Bio Electric Field. The 3 litre average of Micro-Biotic Cell Life Forms, found in the GI Tract, literally 'eats' or decays every single bit of food we eat. Digestive fluids and stomach 'acids' only facilitates microbes turning it all into faeces. The product of this 'digestion' is to produce Biological Vibrations that we measure as Heat or 'calories' or even BTU's. The microbes breeding and consuming lunch by the billions is a lot of biological heat energy from our internal compost heap. This 'heat energy' as vibrations, is inducted or absorbed directly by the 'antenna' or ENS within the GI lining and transmitted directly to the brain. This indicates that the Brains Grey matter is a Di-Pole Battery with billions of Cells for 'storage' within the 'brain', where this "energy' is then 'electrically' distributed as needed, or Directed by Spirit, to the rest of the body via the Central Nervous System or CNS.
 
This flow in the CNS from the Brain/Battery, operates, builds and repairs the bodies 'motors' and muscles with Bio Electricity. It powers the muscles when directed by stimuli or the desire to walk. This and watery fluids in the blood are the building blocks of Life.

What we get out of the food and water we eat is 'water' absorbed into the blood stream with 'elemental' frequencies 'dissolved' by the 'action' of microbes eating or decomposing our lunch and the production of Vibrational Bio Heat Energy that is 'collected' by the Enteric Nervous system that is "connected" directly to the brain. The warmth we feel after a meal or bottle of wine on a Park bench on a cold night is the Vibrational increase from highly vibrational water. The lungs work overtime trying to expel the higher vibs in a similar like action to CO2 if one drinks too much wine. One 'pants' to detox as how a Breathalyzer works.

The energetic action of microbes digesting food and generating Bio energy, utilizing a God given Bio Antenna to collect this Microbe energy, as vibrational (electrical) heat energy and transmitting it exclusively to charge up our Di-pole Battery, is quite misrepresented by Biologists. The ground breaking IP of Charging Up drinking water with 3 Baghdad battery Cells will enhance this Mechanism of Charging Up a Biological battery with what can only be described as an Elixir for Life. The ultimate immune system booster is to use a car battery and apply this Bio Electric Technology to Organic Life.

Part 3    
Our Bio-Field is created by a Rotating Magnetic Blood Field.

Once the haemoglobin is Charged Up by the oxygen frequencies, these millions of tiny Magnetic red battery Cells are sent directly to Charge Up the brain with a disproportionate amount of blood via 2 arteries upwards and the rest around the body, in what can be only be described as, TWO "Infinity Loops" or Rotating Magnetic Fields.
 
Every Cell in the body touches the vascular system and again by Induction, they 'release' their vibrational Charge to a 'tissue' Cell.
 

With this knowledge, we can use a car battery to connect to the hands and Charge Up the Human Bio Field like a Battery charger does to a car Battery. Other 'points' or input terminals, have differing Bio Field actions like Ozone production from every Cell in the body as a new therapeutic Modality for Healing. Many Penny Arcade machines were invented to Charge Up the Human Body based upon Teslas Vibrational Energy from Frequency. Controlled opposition cults would call these "donor electron machines". We believe Tesla would have known the correct Polarity of each Handle.



Two separately wired rotating magnetic Fields interacting with an electrical wiring system or ferrite magnets, is called a 2 phase motor. They can be combined into one frame creating a motor/generator with the addition of Ferrite Magnets. This scenario 'may' create a Neutral Centre attachment Point for Aetheric Energy. This is the "Mechanism" of Teslas Wardenclyffe Tower that 'broadcast' Scalar Non Hertzian 'energy' to every Light Crystal within earth's magnetic Field with 'pure flat-line' Non Hertzian Prima Matter 'energy'. The reason it may not preform, could be due to the 'builder' is creating Life and if he does not know this, then the Life created will know not what to do. (1.04 mark vid)
 
This is the 'attachment' to the Universal Consciousness. Our own zero point if you prefer.  This is the Mechanism by which the human Will operates. Tesla called this Non-Hertzian Scalar or Radiant Energy. The Human Body and Life itself, is all about Bio Electric Rotating Magnetic Fields.

The figure 8 or Infinity Loop is 'magnetic' red blood Cells creating a Rotating or Circulating Magnetic Field within the Body. A more complex version of 'joining together flows' is seen within the Arteries going to the brain. The act of splitting the Flow, splits it into 2 Charges (or phases as there is a frequency difference between the 2) and then recombining in close proximity is like the opposite and equal action to Lord Kelvin's "Thunderstorm" by pumping up rather than falling down. This gives us a total of 4 Charge 'phases' of 'electricity', ++, +-, -+, --   to Charge Up one's battery. Similar to the 4 'elements' of earth, water, wind and fire where each element has 4 'charge factors' it will cycle through in what we call a Format. This charge scale was called 'stages' in JoeCell videos. (Link Master Bates and the Show and Tell story)
 
Manly P. Hall said, "There are two great systems in the body of man:
1. Tree of Life, which is the arterial with its roots in the heart.
2. Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, i.e. the nervous system, which has its roots in the brain."
 
Paracelsus considered "BLOOD to be the Condensation of Light". To elaborate this consideration, we see that Sunlight and water, by either photo synthesis or Biological actions, create Iron as Haemoglobin in our bone marrow, or within a Sea Microbe. We purify this 'iron' by 'smelting' which is a form of 'condensing' Light 'frequencies' in Paracelsus' Alchemical terms.


I would venture to say... that 'silly equations', and "Electron Spin" have stifled man's ability to See what it is he is looking at when he looks in a Mirror.

This 3rd Eye blindness to the Wave Forms that surround 'everything', has given rise to all kinds of silly theories and a total failure to Understand NATURE and Its Laws. 
And here we are, endless debating over what this Over Unity is, that we seek, when we ARE ONE.
 
Politics, Religion and 'science' and how we got here.
Politics is about people debating the Laws we live under, from good or bad views.
Religion is people living under agreed upon Customs.
Science is to question everything. Nothing is a given until proved to oneself.
 
The problem arises when the Law tries to change Customs or Common Law with Settled Science.
One does not need a 'deity' or a figure head for a Belief in Common Customs or to impose changes to the Law. Believing in such things is a matter of personal choice and no one likes intrusive forces in decision making (mandates). Religion can also be the result of Common Law and inalienable rights stemming from the belief we are a part of Creation either divinely or from the swamp as our 'science'.  Our new Priests of Religion are called 'scientists' and the new custom to Trust them or be labelled a 'Science Denier' is coercion to conform to the new 'religion'. Here we think for ourselves and Question Everything as our 'science'. Nothing is held to be true in a world of mass deception.
 
I See a Perfect machine like Tesla did in our human body. No 'trusting the science' can improve the Human Machine as an experiment. We try to make machines to duplicate the Filtering process of the Kidneys using Particle size rather than Charge, polarity or Frequency factors. We do this because the magnetics of Life is NOT understood and so we make coils of copper and charged lumps of iron to duplicate the Rotating Magnetic Fields of Blood Flows. This is Teslas Greatest Discovery that of Rotating Magnetic Fields can be made to Create Life and Life Force Energy, in near unlimited abundance from his beloved Aether, with a contraption we can describe as a Tesla designed Smart Drive, radial, multi Phased Generator/Motor in one, as his gift for those with eyes to See. Such a contraption only requires the addition of a car battery and a load to replace the brain and muscles.
 
Our Lungs operating mechanism is by Magnetic Inductive Fields that Charge Up or Re-Magnetize our Rechargeable iron Batteries or Red Blood Cells travelling in an Infinity Loop or rotating magnetic Field. The Grey Matter/brain is a di-pole battery for storage of vibrational energy. The Nervous system is the electrical conduits to our Motors and Muscles. Water is literally Liquid Electricity or the Lubricant of Life. Waters 'atomic' structure is a 4 sided Light Crystal with 4 'elemental states'. The Earth is a giant spherical JoeCell 'Tube Cell'. Light Frequency from the Sun, Charges Up the Atmospheric Layers like a 'fluoro' tube. Its Blue because Ice is blue, water is blue, and flame is blue so it follows the Element Wind is blue. The grass is green because it's the Vibration reflected from the grass. We cannot see light, only its reflection.
 
An Alchemist understands the Hermes Trismegistus teachings of; The First Law is the Universe Is Mental as Emoto's experiments prove this be true and that water is a liquid crystal. We are distracted by the Controlled opposition from the EU people who label everything we DON'T KNOW about water as Structured Water. This will end with the burial of the 'electron'.  To understand how to structure water with Direct Current or Pressure by Vibrations in Tesla speak, Joe does it here with Battery current applied to a Magnetic Field Generating Antenna here. https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html
And here https://rumble.com/vh9sd3-water-into-oil-second-camera-view.html (https://rumble.com/vh9sd3-water-into-oil-second-camera-view.html)
 
The Ancient Alchemical Art or The Great Work of the Magi, is the belief in the Will to change matter. In the first Video, if you listen carefully at the 1.04 mark, on Joe's command, Matt 'tells' the Cell "to make Oil". Matt thought of 'oil' and the first of 8 'kinds' of oil made that day with 8 participants looks like car engine oil.
 
In this Video, Joe demonstrates this added Will Power to Charge Up water with the Memory of Fire. Read the 2 comments to understand a practical use of Bio Field Science so one doesn't need 'refineries' or coal fired power stations. https://rumble.com/vgdio9-burning-water-the-alchemist-way..html (https://rumble.com/vgdio9-burning-water-the-alchemist-way..html) The opposite and equal is to make water not 'fire' and only a mist will distinguish the most intense blaze. Perfect for existing fire systems with only a fraction of the water.
 
The JoeCell, and he has built many and no 2 are the same, is the classical construct "Tube Cell" and is a Living Experiment between the Alchemist Operator and all 5 Elemental States of Matter. It is truly the Magic of Magnetics. This JoeCell Tube Cell creates an Infinity Loop Field in the vessel of Water, where this creation allows for Scalar NON Hertzian Energies from the 'Aether' or Aetheric 'Grid' to be 'usable' by the Will of the Alchemist. Our own Vibrating Bio Field can influence surrounding Fields. Tesla did it with Magnets and Coils within Rotating Magnetic Fields and withheld the Intellectual Property to utilize what he called Scalar Field Energy. Joe does it with a Geometric Antenna in water and Battery Current. Only a Magi can decipher or reverse engineer such magic.
 
Tesla took his "Greatest Discovery" to his grave. If you like what you have read so far please enter the Game or the Great Work as the Alchemists called it. It only gets more intense in its approach to the many lies passed off as theories to purposely confuse the Mind of the Beholder.
 

This is the final instalment of understanding 'electricity' like Tesla knew it and applied it to his Greatest Discovery.
 
It is highly 'condensed' and many paragraphs could do with a longer more detailed explanation.
I don't believe any Civilian Researcher understands electricity as God Created it or as Tesla knew it.
This unique designed Universe is the product of Infinite Intelligence utilizing a singular Magnetic Light Structure for ALL of creation.
With some 32 years of Water Cell experiments and Battery reconstructions and associated Field Effects comprising many 1000's of experiments, the following is the conclusion of a lifetime of research as to what the Ancients knew and what has been rediscovered or re-invented. There is nothing new under the sun and only 20th Century Nobel Prize winners believe this to not be true. Its a reward system for imaginative theories only to keep humans in a perpetual slave system.
 
Understanding the Alchemy of the Baghdad battery by electrifying silver rods as a highly probable use 2000 years ago.
 
Or Tesla's Technology OF ENERGY, FREQUENCY & VIBRATION as APPLIED TO charge water with Silver Bio Field energies
 
Silver has a mass spectrometer vibrational 'signature', specific to its place of origin on earth. The addition of battery DC from 3 Cells will increase or Charge Up these Silver Signature/vibrations with the 'elemental vibrations' we call DC 'electricity'. Natural physics says that there will be scales, octaves and harmonics when combining these 'frequency signatures' and Field Patterns to metals and Biological Life Forms. When 4 Silver wires or 'silver electrodes' are used as the DC Magnetic Field generating 'antenna' to magnetically "Charge Up" the water with DC, the water (may) takes on the Memory of the antennas component frequency. In this case silver. With just 2 wires there is no Magnetic Field Generated only 'electrolysis'.
 
Battery vibrations or DC, vibrate the Silver 'rods' and is retained as silver Memory and held within/by, the already vibrating water crystals by being Charged Up or 'magnetized' with Silvers Vibrational Frequency. A Silver Field rather than an Iron Field effect. Water can be made to be MAGNETIC. Water takes on the 'memory' of everything it touches. This device we call the SilverJoe Generator, using 4 rods to generate a Field effect, amplifies that effect. Its design can be used with other precious metals or even stainless steel.
 
Two more Silver Field designs are variations of the 7 Ringed array sold as the Aquachifootbath.com
 
                                7 Rings Silver            Silver Neutral with 6 Stainless       SilverJoe Generator

The nature of ac and dc 'electricity'
 
Creation is full of Tunning Fork crystals, all the same shape and defined as Patterns about a Neutral Centre within a Unified Field. Keely agrees. Tesla reinvented it. Joe was gifted it and I scribe it.

The Nature of Alternating Current.
Electricity in Medicine is where we add Vibrational Fire to the Human Body for Healing. Fire is the 4^th Phase or State of matter or the 4^th Elemental State when raising the Vibrations within the Atomic Structure by Charging Up. There are 4 stages or Phases of matter as in, Solid, Liquid, Gas and Fire.

Tesla's AC is made with copper and iron.
Tesla's AC is made with iron magnets that exhibit a NON Physical 'iron filing' Wave Form Field in 3D, created by Hyper-Charging. Each time the magnets Compression and Expansion Wave Fields pass the Iron core within a Copper coil in a generator, these 'waves' that Tesla called  "Lines of Force" pass through the iron core and copper coil and Vibrate all the Light Crystals comprising the iron core within the coil 'collector' with 'waves of Force' that increase the vibrations of the copper crystals that comprise the coiled copper with these non-physical wave forms, 60 times per second. It is a massive disturbance or massive increase of vibrational energy within the Coppers' Crystalline structure. The passing magnet Charges Up the Copper crystals in the wires and we call this 'electrifying' the circuit.
 
These Identical Magnetic Tetrahedrons all touching one another, all vibrate each other like tuning forks from the generator coil to electric jug coil, at near the speed of light or its speed of 'conductivity'.
 
All conductive wires or components connected to this Coil from the Generator, will also vibrate the 'air' around the wires as a Field Effect of Magnetic Vibrations. A Clamp Meter measures these vibrations as 'current flow'. It is this vibrating atmospheric Wind Field of Air Crystals that that our radio antenna "picks up". This is the 'mechanism' of electro-magnetic Field Propagation or radio 'wave' transmission. It is also Wireless transmission of electricity but this aspect or property of Magnetic Vibrations has been 'buried'.
 
It is deduced that the Direct Current Vibrations in the Leads of a car Battery are near identical to the Pulsed vibrations or intermittent vibrations at 60 Hertz per second that we call Alternating Current that boils water in your jug.
 
Electricity is vibrations and vibrations create wave forms. The AC sine wave 'form' exhibits 4 'phases' of 'electricity' or Magnetism. Electricity is a Vibrational effect between two 'elemental frequencies'. More like tuning forks transmitting 'energy' to each other. It is not a 'particle' nor is it a 'flow'. The vibrational effect can 'jump' short distances between conductors in a Conductive medium or gas much like radio waves 'jump' to the radio. We may see it as heat, a spark, lightning or FIRE.

"The Electric Universe is energy with frequency from vibrating Light Crystals".
 
 

Joe's collection of Vacuum Cells before the Floods washed them away.

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Many thanks @MerLynn for your contribution.

The Baghdad battery is the science of the universe in a single Cell.
In other writings, i speak of using this Field for gravitic aircraft or a flying carpet Persian style.

The US Navy R & D Labs use the following terminology to describe the Tetrahedron Crystal Vibrating Universe of Light.
In a Patent for Gravitic Propulsion
Everything that surrounds us, ourselves included, can be described as macroscopic collections of fluctuations, vibrations, and oscillations in quantum mechanical fields. Matter is confined energy, bound within fields, frozen in a quantum of time. Therefore, under certain conditions (such as the coupling of hyper-frequency axial spin h hyper-frequency vibrations of electrically charged systems) the rules and special effects of quantum field behavior also apply to macroscopic physical entities (macroscopic quantum phenomena).

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/en  Craft Using an Inertial Mass Reduction Device 

I have written of the experiments with JoeCells where vehicles (F100) levitated and had near zero INERTIA. We know how to make it simply, Not the US NAVY way.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US10322827B2/en?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais


At the end of this long video about the back story behind the vegas tesla trump tower fireworks display to get our attention just the other day;
The Guy 'orchestrating the fireworks as "allegedly" the driver, wanted to get the information as to the origin and propulsion system behind the orb/drones seen.

https://x.com/shawnryan762/status/1875278042144162200/mediaviewer

This is the beginnings of project blue beam and lots fall under the spell just like last time.

This isnt about thread derailing. It is about real time disclosure of the type of technology they have and how they describe it. My way using 'magnetics' rather than 'electronics' is easier to understand if we as a group, want to make this elusive 'energy' from the Vibrating universe.

Copper, salt water and heshian bags comprised the battery in the Spitfire its entire length of its fuselage. Joe jumped in a wrecked one more than 30 years of being in the jungle on Thursday Island and it turned the motor over. The 'electricity' is held within the 'Medium' (acid or salt water) between the two dissimilar frequency sources. Its the Vibrations of what everything is composed of, Everything that surrounds us, ourselves included.  Even inside the battery.

The theory of electricity both from a battery and AC has finally been answered. It gives one a head start when this technology comes out and people try to understand it or reverse engineer it for themselves to again try to be free from power meters.

We use Water as the Field Medium rather than Nobel gases or 'Wind'.
We use a Singular Field Generator/Antenna rather than an 'array' of antennas. Wind is 100% water vapor.

I might be missing something, but how do I start a 'thread?
this post is better on a new thread titled What is a battery and how does it create a Magnetic Field?

Quote from: Classic on Feb 21, 2024, 10:39 AMWhat is a Bagdad battery

My previous posts centered around the Baghdad battery.

But what is a "battery" really?

I have and others with slightly different variations stated, that its 2 'things' in close proximity having a 'reaction'.

So what is a Diode? Two dis-similar 'earths' in close proximity. As 'conductors' these 2 dis-similar earths allow the 'flow' or what ever it is to pass through.

A diode isnt designed to store 'electricity'. But as a 'tiny' battery effect, the 'current' or 'Pressure" Tesla called it, passes right through but the 'Earths' now smooth out the 'pulses' somewhat or mostly depending upon its composition. You can charge a car battery with a very low level of AC. All you get out though is DC.
They call it a Diode rather than a battery that evens out the output, so you wont question what they tell you it is they they make and put in it, namely fictional 'electrons'.

A 'diode' is a Battery but not like you SEE it. (important in later understanding is, the material composition 'flavors' the vibrations of the 'electricity'. All components effect the 'electricity's vibrational rate. This concerns Medical applications, Bio Electric Field Enhancers and choice of DC for 'colloidal' silver etc.

A Capacitor isnt designed to make electricity as there is an insulating layer between the 2 Earths. No 'electrolysis'.  This battery design is designed to rapidly charge up and rapidly dis-charge. Whereas a car battery is designed to slowly charge up and slowly discharge. But its still a 'battery' because everything in the universe is magnetic so the 'insulator' allows for magnetic Currents to interact at an extreme level of 'shared medium' or close proximity. The magnetic Fields interact but not the vibrating crystals of the 2 Earth (metal) conductors that make the capacitor. Its a 'battery' with specific properties. Placed in the starter box of a AC motor, it momentarily 'stops' the flow of one wire, while the capacitor is charging up and allows for the Neutral wire's vibrations to start the motor spinning, and then the Active joins in. Otherwise it 'stalls' and the 2 Way Flow cant get past each other. I'm not sure they explain it like that in modern science.

Biology will tell you that Cells from Singles to a full human body makes/stores 'electricity'.

So we have an electronics circuit thats essentially Cells and batteries to regulate vibrations.

Vibrations that are caused by the Lines of Force surrounding a magnet, interacting with the Laminate to reduce vibrations that is wrapped in vibration inhibiting copper wires to collect vibrations and sent them to the toaster. We call it 'electricity' and we think its all 'particles' when we reverse engineer even the simplest of the Batteries. Big Bagdaddy. Electrons exist to confuse the mind of the beholder.

As the Vibrations pass down the wire from the 'generator', this copper wire vibrates the plastic and the air or Wind touching the the insulated (or not) mains power lines. These Vibrations cause the Wind to form Waves around the wires. We call these 'waves' a magnetic Field and if one could SEE them, they look iron filing lines around a magnet in 3D where the lines represent the North Pole of the Wave form and the gaps the South Pole Field . Can you visualize or SEE that?

This Wave form Field is basically, a vibrating Wind Field that toasts your toast with heat energy they vibrate at such a rate. This is your 'radio sine wave' your oscilloscope' has SEEN for you.

This is what you are trying to make when reverse engineering any historically lost inventions.

We just arent up to the stage of designing something 'new' never seen before because we just don't understand what it is we are SEEING when we look at a Magnets, wires, elements and the NON Physical Phenomena surrounding 'electricity'. Tesla could SEE it.

In this link  (https://rumble.com/vhrdlh-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh..html)water is made Magnetic. What this means, after treating the water with this Magnetic Field, the water is like 'magnetic blood' that imparts vibrations to every Cell in the body. Or Iron cores coiled with iron wires can be placed around the water pipe mains from Electrical Water Supplies Inc. and free energy can be tapped off anywhere in an unlimited amount by just running it through 4 ring magnets and 2 washers assembled this way  (https://rumble.com/v4odo38-joe-may-2010-magnetic.html)

Who invented what first is the Narrative they want us to debate. Not the subject matter.

For example. Tesla had a 'remote' controlled boat long before Marconi 'patented' radio.
"They" gave Marconi the patent in clear violation of previous "like" inventions. 
They promoted Marconi (the British) and literally stole the research and investment funds from Tesla.
Quite some time latter they acknowledged Tesla also invented radio around the same time.

So rather than 'study' what RADIO Tesla Invented, We all study the Radio Marconi invented.
Radio is Wireless transmission of 'electricity'. SEE how that works? Tesla didnt invent anything really says modern studies.

They literally stole from You the end user, any chance of ever understanding what Tesla tried to give to the world.

The Question is... do you want to SEE it like Tesla, da Vinci or Joe? Or as I have presented it?

Man will learn more in a decade than all of previous over unity forums, by studying the non physical phenomena of magnetic Fields.
Or
In the Wave Lies the Secret to Creation... Walter Russell.

@MerLynn , there is a bit of confusion, maybe the right term to be used would be an electric pile or dc electric generator, to make a clear distinction between storing electric charges at a certain density and a thing that is able to generate a continuous flux of charges at a certain rate.

We have so many things named "batteries". "Bagdad Batteries"  as the solid state dc generator has been named indeed add a lot of confusion.

the production of what we call 'electricity' comes from basically 2 sources that can be divided into 2 categories.
That which comes from some 'action' or 'reaction' like electrolysis.
That which comes from something spinning.

The illusive static generator that 'fits' neither of these 2 categories needs new physics to explain virtual rotating Fields.

The Vacuum Cells have a very unique property. A closed electrical circuit board for example, built on a 2 foot square piece of plywood would have several (8 in our device) Light bulbs, These can be either incandescent (coils) or LED. If they are all LEDs then a brake light bulb (coil) needs to be inserted in the circuit.

The rare Vacuum Cell, which I contend the Dendera Light bulbs are such a device, requires Implosion technologies (https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html).  Dan Winter based all his 'theories' on this Demo of Implosion forces from a JoeCell. No where else on planet earth will you see or can visit and SEE, it done. The 'implosive' bubbles are collected inside the stainless steel tube and then sealed. The tube is then sparked with a car battery and the gas inside implodes creating the only true vacuum obtainable on planet earth. This vacuum then resonates with the Aether as it to is without Frequency or Scalar Non Hertzian. There is no instrument or meter to measure Aetheric energy as all meters require frequency. One can only measure it by the Load one can draw. A candle stick sized one ran 2 x 2000 watt induction stove tops and nearly a hundred 100 watt bulbs at once. And then one traps the non hertzian energy in the circuit and removes the 'candle stick' vacuum Cell and the lights stay on.

This is 'priceless' as one can rewire a house as a closed circuit and charge it up with this candle stick as as long as one light stays on, all the rest will turn off and back on again including the hotwater heater and oven.

I label the static generator as a battery because it fits the premise that two dis-similar frequencies in a shared medium. The shared medium is the Wind or air.
The vacuum battery uses the Aether as one dis-similar frequency and the stainless steel comprising the vacuum chamber, the other. It is a FIELD EFFECT battery rather than Physical effect battery. (Non Physical phenomena Tesla told everyone to study)

In this arrangement there are 2 wires at each end of the circuit where an electrical source is attached to to light up the board.
One can use a car battery to light the bulbs and when disconnected, the lights go out.

With the Vacuum Cell as the source of 'electricity', once the Cell is disconnected the Lights stay on. They will stay on as long as one light remains on. You can take a bulb out and screw it back in and on it comes. This Aetheric Energy can be "trapped" in a circuit. Videos exist of this but given the skepticism from previous videos, they are classified and so far only interested investors have access. We stay alive that way.

In another Static energy Cell or battery, we have 2 aluminum pipes where one fits inside of another and the inner tube has lathed groves along its length. When a 'shaped' magnet (cube) is inserted into the inner tube, the further its inserted the more 'deadly' the vibrations become. I have purposely 'electrocuted' myself with this to feel the energy.

In a common car battery, the placement of where the 'posts' tap the frequency on the end plates of the battery, can be manually altered to the 'side' of the lead plate rather than the top. As each plate has a polarity as everything is magnetic, one can show 4 distinct 'phases' of electricity. This battery can be altered to have, in effect, 2 north poles. Technically, there is no positive post.

This 4 Phases of 'electricity' can be likened to 4 phases of Magnetism. We know of 2 phases being the North and South 'poles'. But in effect this isnt the complete story. Each pole is attached to the other pole and is a 'mixture' of Polarities or Frequencies.

To get PURE North Pole energy we need to join the two Norths together with a Neutral Plate to 'trap' or combine these 2 poles. We then have a true mono pole.
We can use 2 mono-poles and we can use the 2 ends of a magnet.  This is 4 Phases of Magnetism.

The battery altering design, also gives 4 phases. the standard battery with 2 posts and having a battery as a twin North poles or twin South poles.
These Phases of electricity and magnetism are Not known nor understood by "proven science". Its not even a 'theory' yet its so far advanced.

Making these Phases and how to use them is entirely unknown.

To make a 'rudimentary' twin North Pole battery to play with double Negative energy, one merely gets 2 car batteries and joins them together in series with a battery cable. Take a set of jumper leads and connect the Black alligator clip to the Negative on one battery. Now on the Positive terminal, where it is connected to the Negative on the other battery, Connect the Red alligator clip on this Negative Post on the other battery.

There are vibrations coming from each post or terminal on the battery, (if there wasnt the electrolysis experiment wouldnt produce 'oxygen')
So connecting the red lead to the Negative Post that is joined to the first battery, GIVES a Negative vibrational energy to the Positive Post.

This 'configuration', is not 'pure' North Pole energy on either terminal, but for all intents and purposes it 'acts' like it for experimental purposes to get a handle on the 4 Phases.
To get Pure North or South Frequencies, one must internally modify the battery.

In the Baghdad Battery with ONLY 2 Dis-Simnilar metals to provide the Vibrations, This PURE Polar energy is already there. Thats what makes this 'battery' unique and no one SEES it.

Now to make 2 sets of ring magnets with a washer inbetween (https://rumble.com/v4odo38-joe-may-2010-magnetic.html), you can have 2 'gangs'. Each gang is a Pure Polar Energy. These two configurations can be made into a Static Battery. No moving parts. It takes a COIL to USE 'electricity'. (or it did when light bulbs were incandescent) and a Coil as in any motor to USE the differing Phases of Electricity.

Levitation is obtained when two 'COILS' (Field Generators) are powered by 2 Sources of Pure North Pole 'electricity' interacting. We learned this when levitating 2 vehicles with JoeCells.

It is North Pole Magnetism or Negative electricity from a battery that is what we call 'cold fusion'. It is as close to Aetheric Energy as one can make with physical 'elements'.

There are many ways to use this double Negative battery energy as verses standard battery energy. This isnt the thread to explain these further experiments we have done.

Understanding this baghdad battery does 'change everything'

Quote from: Classic on Jan 06, 2025, 03:20 PMthere is a bit of confusion

The confusion is entirely because 'modern science' does not have a definitive explanation for just what is coming out of the Baghdad battery's terminals. And now I have stated that its a bit 'different' than what comes out of a car battery.

Without the 'invention' of this baghdad battery, even its rediscovered 'technique' in modern times, one cannot make a ferrite Magnet. To make a magnet one needs a source of Battery Direct Current and a COIL. Again there is no definitive explanation in "modern science" (its all theories) of what the "MECHANISM" is within the lump of iron that the DC does to it to create magnetism. And then we have Bio Magnetism which I state is from Spinning or the circulating of tiny jelly lumps of magnetic iron in the classic magnetic torroidal shape.

Did anyone ever ask what was attached to the end of the wire that Ben Franklin attached a kite to the other end?
Was he using some obscure manual for this inspiration as did all the other inventors we believe to have discovered galvanics, batteries and interrupted battery currents? Why does getting struck by Lightning where generally (if one survives) one is left with exceptional ESP Powers? Can this ESP Powers effect be obtained from a simple (modified) car battery.

Mankind knows nothing about batteries or electricity and even less about Magnetism. Yet here we are thinking we can make s***loads more of it than we put in without ever understanding any of it and claiming its done by understanding "proven science".


I still cant see the 'button' to start a new thread to explain any of the above more thoroughly. This sort of 'forces' me to jump around trying to explain what it is the over unity people cant SEE. Has anyone ever learned to SEE? Like Don Juan tried to teach Carlos Castaneda? Or the way da Vinci and Tesla could SEE? Or the countless books on learning to see 'auras' as Joe SEES them and invents accordingly? One doesnt really understand Tesla's greatest discovery without this Gift that can be imparted by being struck by Lightning. Can we make an elixir with a double negative car battery to give us this frequency receptiveness to our eyes? Changes everything remember.

One wire electricity.
Anyone heard of it?
Some where I have a pic of the apparatus. But its not very clear.

Electricity is vibrations in a conductor. Inductance is one vibrating conductor or tuning fork near another conductor (tuning fork) and the WIND or air crystals in between, transferring the vibrations as a Field Effect.  All the rest is how we 'view' these vibrations and how modern science theoretically describes them. I have reinvented the theory of inductance by providing the Mechanism for its cause. Nothing in history is correct anymore.

For this visualization of a power source, we need a standard old school wall wart power supply (non switching transformer with cap and diode) and a permanent magnet. Well 2 magnets, one a Neo and one a plain ferrite so we can 'feel' the difference.

This is a be careful moment. doing this experiment can kill you, its that capable.

Plug the wall wart or old phone charger into the wall socket.
Now pick up a magnet and VERY slowly move it close to the wall wart DO NOT TOUCH and you will feel the different vibrations in your fingers between the 2 kinds of magnets. Neodymium added to Ferrite increases the magnetism by increasing the Field Frequency. This you will 'feel' if you dont electrocute yourself first and die. (I do need to drive this point home)

If you wave it past the wall wart, its like spinning a magnet past a coil. It generates electricity and you are the 'ground'. You will Die if you do it too fast.

This is for those with eyes to SEE, or at least try to visualize.

All one needs now is to attach a wire to the magnet and hold it close to a Coil that is vibrating and draw off vibrations. There is a bit more too it but thats the Principle. Its free energy for those that can SEE this invention. Its not connected to the meter box. Its also why they dont allow 'things' to be too close to the 48,000 kva power lines as one can harvest free electricity with a coil or even a fence if the straight wires are insulated.

We did it on a water pipe that had magnetic water flowing in it and used a ring magnet around the pipe (earlier I said to wrap a coil around the pipe but thats a waste of copper or preferably iron wire as iron is naturally magnetic.) Flowing water generates the highest magnetic Field. Even 'higher' if the water is made magnetic. The Water Crystals and there are squillions of them in a drop of water, are tiny charged up magnets. Now think of ocean currents and the current they could provide. This forum only reverse engineers and it does so with little to zero understanding of what electricity is. Is it any wonder we as a specific interest group have virtually nothing to offer the world?

When it is built it becomes an overunitymachine producing free energy. If I post schematics I die. If it remains as it should, a device to prove to oneself, we all live.

If anyone here is skilled enough, I have 2 expired patents for those ready to get their hands dirty.

First patent is a generator and second patent is related to manufacture of electrets in desired thickness from best available material (and dirty cheap) teflon tape used for water plumbing. I mean electrets with estimated life of 20-200 years depending on ambient temperature. They can be made in minutes and can be used for health recoveries as well !

It seems that option to attach files has disappeared.
1. NL1032043 Arie Melis DeGeus
2. Patent US4,527,218 Heinz von Seggern for AT&T 

Quote from: Classic on Feb 05, 2025, 10:32 AM[...]
It seems that option to attach files has disappeared.
1. NL1032043 Arie Melis DeGeus
2. Patent US4,527,218 Heinz von Seggern for AT&T

Hello Classic,

No, the attach Files options have not "disappeared"

1-If you are using the "Quick Reply" the option to attach files is NOT on.
2-In order to have the Attach Files Option you need to use the regular "Reply" on the same line where pages number are displayed.

If you started using the Quick Reply to write your post, and you need to add files then you will need to "Save Draft" option on Quick Reply and the Attach Files will come on.

Ufopolitics

Many thanks @Ufopolitics for help.

Patents attached now

Now is someone understand what is exposed in these 2 patents may easy imagine a robotised small production line able to manufacture (similar with a production line for capacitors) which can supply huge amount of generators at a very cheap cost.

The only problem is not that power grid suppliers will be redundant, we already know that govs/multinational co wreck entire industries in days if they desire. The real problem is the leverage they  lose when everyone can use unlimited power for anything they want without restrictions: almost free traveling anywhere, almost free food/water, almost free heating/cooling for homes/work space etc.

We can reasonably expect any time soon one of G7 countries or any other to break free as long as they have secured enough land and able to defend ... this is why we have these stupid wars happening before our eyes and being mislead by politicians which encourage hate speech, discrimination, racism etc. The 4 big actors able to balance/unbalance the situation are: Russia, USA, China, India ... also we can add South America and EU as long as they would be able to defend themselves efficient against the 4 mentioned.