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Hello to All,

I started working on Clemente Figuera project around 7-8 years ago...my videos show all the attempts made.

I recently gathered those related videos, (some were "private" because they were shared only between Members building it at Energetic Forum) and then created a Play List:

UFOPOLITICS FIGUERA GENERATOR PLAYLIST (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDK7GC_dPVjgjdI8iUV1g0zEtStmEbP-Y)

I highly recommend NOT to waste your time watching them...As these are all failed tests.
It was just done to show all attempts done without any major success at all, as also a Time Stamp for the records.

I used Bucking Coils idea (N<>N) or S<>S...No luck.
I spent a lot of money ordering Toroid cores, tons of brand new spools of enameled wire for coils plus building the "Part G"...it did not work either...
I spent time and money in high wattage resistors, according to measurements required...nothing...
I made a lot of Animated graphics to understand how this is "supposed" to  work...

For Jesus Christ sake!!, does it takes that much wasted time, efforts and money to realize either this setup will NOT WORK...OR that We were all wrong from the beginnings?

For all of you that are on the same page...do not feel bad...we learned a lot or a thousand times and attempts it does not work...after all, we are not alone...the Figuera Patents, including Buforn's dates back to more than 115 years ago...and absolutely NO ONE have been able to prove it does work as expected, as described on all their patents.

But here, after close to ten years ago, three days back...by reviewing my videos, basically the graphic animated ones...I finally understood where we went wrong...big time wrong.
It is a very slight "Structural Wrong Geometry Interpretation"
It was NOT a Translation error from Spanish to English...My Native Language is Spanish, and I have gone over and over on ALL original documents written in Spanish.

When Clemente Figuera originally put together his 1908 Patent and Drawing(s)...He refers to "resistance" as "Espiras de Resistencia" (Resistance Spirals) inside a box, He named "R"...and He refers to it as "drawn for ELEMENTARY/UNDERSTANDING purposes only"...which means "NOT EXACTLY" the way it goes FOR REAL on his CIRCUIT...

By the way...

Please, do not keep on trying FIGUERA SETUP in a ROTARY FASHION of Virtual Fields...it will never work!!...I will tell you why:

On all the Rotary System I tested, there was a main issue, when I accelerated the Controller, the Output started to decrease, instead of gaining value.

Now in a straight line steel core, Fields are generated acting like a Piston Pump, one at each end. Let's call it like Figuera did, Part N and Part S, as the main Primaries.

They actuate in a Reciprocal way, so when one is fully displaced or expanded, the other one is retracted to its minimal capacity, and so on and on. They both travel within the same linear mass steel core, so Field never needs to "jump" from one mass of steel to another (even within same steel stator core) like in a Rotary System.

I know this all sounds "too familiar" and some of you may have tried these "scenarios" many times as well...but there is "a way"...only one way, of making it work superb!!

I have come to the conclusion, that making the Magnetic Field Spectrum jump or "mutate" into a "cold" (not magnetically oriented mass) like I have done in Rotary Systems in the past, it does not work -as well- basically, whenever we accelerate (increase frequency) trying to get higher gain at output. Field Spectrum can travel at speeds higher than light, however, the steel mass takes its "sweet time" to develop a magnetic domain orientation...So the proper "Sync" is lost the minute we accelerate field beyond mass response.[/b]

This will never happen in a straight line of steel mass core, where both fields are traveling -in a linear fashion[/color]- at different space/timing, the steel mass would always be oriented in one linear sense, no matter if we just change linear directions.

Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: And do not worry, this "Method" is not complicated at all!!...it is so simple you would not believe why we did not try it before!!

FIGUERA'S 1908 PATENT...LEGAL DISCLAIMER

At the time Figuera wrote his Patent, there were no "Claims" that required to be cited at the end like any contemporaneous patent does...However, Figuera aligned his designed patent into a "Block Diagram" type system, referring to "all parts" as "Elementary" cited: which "not necessarily" go exactly the way they should be on the real prototype.

If We follow this pattern of parts, we will have:

1-Part "N" and Part "S" as the Primaries.
2-Part "y" as the Induced.

And up to here is very common as any Generator "now and then" had these parts on...

So, the "Novel Parts" to any existing Generator on Figuera are:

3- Part "R" defined inside a "Box" which he describes as "Espiras de Resistencia" (Resistance Spirals)
4- Part "G" as He describes "the controller", ran by a small motor and just one brush, which does not requires effort to operate, as all it does is like a "Rotary Mechanical Switch".

So, this are the Four Basic Parts for Figuera Generator...not more no less.

Nowdays, with all these four parts, we could put together a -very simple- Block Diagram, for a new concept Patent, which will make it for ALL CLAIMS required by now.

As Figuera recites on his final paragraph on this patent, that "any similar system that uses similar methods will fall into this main design and would be protected by its patent laws.

Which means that we now can move or re-arrange all these "boxes" off a Block Diagram...and still be using his method, no matter if we use as Part G, as a "Fancy" Solid State Electronic method for switching...it is still within the scope of original patent...which by now, is completely Public Domain, and out of any "Legal Liabilities".

However, since this patent(s) have been on Public Domain for close to a Century...this makes it "Not Patentable Status" if anyone will try to "run" to USPTO, trying to file an App, with a similar device, which will have the LEGAL ESSENCE of this Patent.

Ufopolitics

We all should support the great engineering from UFO   :D 

You have my interest, thank you for sharing!

Ron

Quote from: ronee on Nov 27, 2023, 04:31 PMYou have my interest, thank you for sharing!

Ron

Great Ron!
Just keep following, but it will not be that soon, I have some work to do right now...a lot, plus the regular life work that pays for all.
I want to show "bulletproof" proof.

If you did not read my Second part of my first post at OU after the dotted (******) line...(my bad I did not post it here, originally, guess I did not wanted to involve the OU issue here)...but I will "quote me" here now...and below:

Quoteon: November 11, 2023, 06:56:47 PM »


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Unfortunately, this great website is going to be soon on "Read Only Mode" (according to Stefan last post on the sell of OU.com Thread), which means We will not be able to post or open new threads after is set to that mode...
In my new development, I still have some more time to finalize this new design, physically, but I already built a simpler prototype to find out it works as I expected, even though is still NOT PERFECT YET...the difference is GALORE, from all previous attempts...plus other patches I added in order to smooth this new method of operation.
I am now in the process of measuring wire length plus winding coils (they ALL must be EXACTLY same length and geo size for it to work as expected...most cores were done before, just had to lathe a new one and scavenge from old spools of wire I had from previous work...
I just need more time to be able to DISCLOSE ALL MATERIAL with complete animated videos on You Tube plus make all the CAD's Diagrams for easier understanding.
So, please Stefan, I know you are feeling very ill, and am very sorry for that, as I am also very sorry you have not been able to find a buyer...but please, give me sometime to finish this work and post it here. Can you name someone of confidence, to just run this website as Admin, until it sells?
IMHO, by setting it in Read Mode only, will not help for the selling, as it will not allow interactions from prospect buyers.
I can still go to my You Tube Channel and upload all videos related to it, plus open a new Patreon link...for all those that want to REPLICATE IT, but a monthly fee would be applied if they want to watch my "how to" videos...
I can also post it on Energetic Forum, but their website has some running issues...
I can also build a website platform myself, I have the SERVERS...just related to this development, I can write codes, I know PHP, C++, MySQL and then some...and can handle most Forum Platforms out there, like BB, SMF, Bulletin Boards, etc,etc...but here is somehow "special"...
Actually, I was not supposed to post NONE of the above, nor future posts below, until I was ready for the whole package done and tested over and over to make sure there were no errors...But your recent post on "Read Mode" rushed me to open it now.
Regards to All
Ufopolitics

Basically, all explanation is on the Blue and Red ...Then I started building this site, after all efforts for Stephan to open back OU...were not successful.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Yes it was sad to see OU.com go to read only, who looked far enough ahead to see that coming?

All I can do is wish you a speedy clean up on all your chores and a final successful test phase.
If there are any tests I can run for you just let me know.

Ron

Nice website!
Can't wait to see here what I did wrong with my attempts.
Any update's would be greatly appreciated, bulletproof or not.

Quote from: Neon-Ice on Nov 28, 2023, 02:35 PMNice website!
Can't wait to see here what I did wrong with my attempts.
Any update's would be greatly appreciated, bulletproof or not.

Thanks!!
But, you were not the only one who did it wrong...
Over 100 years, they have not been able to reproduce this Patent(s)
And that includes myself... ;D

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Ok,

About six years ago (May 25, 2017), I built this setup and did this test shown on the video below, and I could not just link to go directly to time 21:41, but if you jump to that frame ...just want you to notice the increase in output amperage versus Input amps...it is a ratio of 3:1.



Unfortunately, I kept following this same procedure...and I was so CLOSE to finding what I have now...However, this way is NOT the way to go...
Instead, I started constructing a specific Rotary Switch (which I still have) which generates a square wave on both sides, High-Low (Positive-Negative) from a steady DC Source, to keep using same type of winding as I explained at the beginning of this video as the Inductor/Primary.

I did rise Amperage above Input amperage, but not the Voltage, and no matter how many turns I add to secondaries.
The great thing about this specific design, is that I can collect output, not only from above the Inductor (like shown here), but also on BOTH sides.

However, this setup, deviates A LOT from Figuera original design...

Here, One of the Two Field keeps collapsing every 180º, while the other one, fully rises for that same timing. And due to the way this coil is wound, we switch poles, or better said, we change the "B Field Direction" every 180º.
Then speaking in Ken Wheeler's terms, "The Dielectric Plane" or the "Bloch Wall", stays on the same place, at half of full coil.

Resuming, here the Field NEVER contracts and expands like Figuera describes on his 1908 patent...

Ufopolitics

What was interesting to me in that video was that as you increased the speed of the pulses you DID get an increase in the output.  This is what we have been looking for.  I am guessing that you found that when you actually use opposing sine waves instead of pulses you got an even better effect.  REALLY looking forward to the next info you share.

Take care,
Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Nov 30, 2023, 06:45 AMWhat was interesting to me in that video was that as you increased the speed of the pulses you DID get an increase in the output. This is what we have been looking for.

Hello Citfta,

Yes, it is what we are looking for...but MAGNIFIED!...

Quote from: citfta on Nov 30, 2023, 06:45 AMI am guessing that you found that when you actually use opposing sine waves instead of pulses you got an even better effect.

And so...why can We have BOTH?...meaning PULSES and also at opposing sinewaves?... 8)

We have to look in a 3D world, as how the Field is manipulated based on our signals...yes, basically on that design I had Two Fields opposing...and I have exactly the same right now...except...

Generating Opposing Electro Magnetic Pulses (EMP), BUT NOT at once, meaning not in "one shot", like I did on that video...but SEQUENTIALLY, GRADUALLY ORGANIZED PULSES.
If we look again at Figuera Patent image, on the "R Box"...He had an organized sequence of "Espiras" (Spirals) which Increase and Decrease based on the brush displacement...

Best regards

Ufopolitics

I think what you mean by pulses plus sine waves you are referring to the signal from Part G which changes the voltage through small steps so that as the coils on one side are going up in voltage by steps the other side is going down by steps at the same time.

I just found that I have a couple of spools of resistance wire used as heating elements in a small oven.  One of them is marked as being 1.5 ohms per inch.  I am thinking this wire would be great for building a real Part G.  By using resistance wire and doing some proper calculations I should be able to build a Part G that will let the proper amount of current go through the coils so that when one of them is at it's max voltage and current the other would be at it's minimum but still have a small amount of current to maintain the magnetic field.

What do you think?

THIS IS A SIMPLE ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE WENT WRONG...1


FIGUERA'S_BLOCK_DIAG_ANALYSIS_1.png




Ok, this is the original image I uploaded on my first post...but here I will do a very simple analysis...to see where we went wrong...

First, We kept playing within the Figuera's added parts (within red rectangle) leaving totally "untouched" the original parts existing in any generator (Inductor/Exciting Field and Induced or Stator Fields)

1- We used Resistors in that box, which were regulated by our rotary switch...it did not work.
2- We joined Part R and Part G to make both work as a unit...it did not work either.

Why it did not work?

As an example: On the Part G composite [Part G + Part R] (originally designed by Marathon Man) into a Toroid...We were generating Two Magnetic Fields into that toroid steel core, however, these fields were TOTALLY ISOLATED/ NEVER INTERACTING with the actual Generating Fields, that actually were producing an Induction in that Blue Rectangle...and that was a HUGE WASTE, and a BIG MISTAKE!!!

What NO ONE has ever done...is to COMBINE/FUSE -at least one- of the original Components on Figuera Patent, with the ones already existing in any generator into the Blue Rectangle!!


I will continue on Analysis 2 next...

THIS IS A SIMPLE ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE WENT WRONG... Analysis #2

On this image I show what we never have done before...except when I did that test on that video I have shown yesterday on previous page...and I have been working on the best method to apply here...
Maybe someone else have tried before doing it similar, since this Patent was granted since 1908...115 years ago.
And that is to incorporate the R Rectangle Box of "spirals" into the Interactions between Part N and Part S, right in-between, and within the Induced or Part "y"...
Now, the interacting Fields from Both Primaries are also in Sync with the switched "spirals" in between.
And, please, let's forget about "spirals" or "Resistors"...these are simply COILS...

FIGUERA'S_BLOCK_DIAG_ANALYSIS_2.png

Coils that are in SERIES, like shown on that "R Box"...and Turned ON and OFF by the switching device...

Simple Uh?

It is Ok, take your time to "digest" all this new info... ;D

Cheers

Ufopolitics

...AND WHAT "TRIGGERED" ALL THIS?...A SHORT ANIMATION VIDEO OF ONE MINUTE DURATION...

Hello to All,

And this "idea" of INSERTING Part R or all the switching Coils, between the Two Primaries came to "light" due to a simple animated video I uploaded about SEVEN F... YEARS AGO!!
In this Animation, I tried to show what is happening in reality on the Visualization of the Virtual Fields...BUT, not on the Toroid geometry (like I also did), but in a LINEAR Fashion.
And recently I was going over all my work done on Figuera...while looking at Floodrod's designs, plus his Thread about the "AI Agent" at OU...then I found this short video that was originally set as "private"...because I only share it through the Energetic Forum at that time...

When you look at this video you will see (now, after I gave all this explanation) that there was a MUCH EFFECTIVE and simpler way to build this...
IF, We just bring the lower switching Coils moved by the arrow...and INSERT THEM ALL into the upper set and in-between the Primary Coils...
This way, and ONLY this way, We will be "fusing" ALL the Fields, The Primary Fields PLUS the Magnetic Field generated at the isolated R Box, and ALL of them will be part of the FULL MAGNETIC INTERACTION on the whole System.


However, this is not as simple as it has been shown in all previous posts...there are things that MUST BE DONE in a certain way or it will never work!!

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Quote from: citfta on Nov 30, 2023, 09:39 AMI think what you mean by pulses plus sine waves you are referring to the signal from Part G which changes the voltage through small steps so that as the coils on one side are going up in voltage by steps the other side is going down by steps at the same time.

Not exactly, Citfta...this is "beyond" what we have build so far related to Figuera...

Quote from: citfta on Nov 30, 2023, 09:39 AMI just found that I have a couple of spools of resistance wire used as heating elements in a small oven.  One of them is marked as being 1.5 ohms per inch.  I am thinking this wire would be great for building a real Part G.  By using resistance wire and doing some proper calculations I should be able to build a Part G that will let the proper amount of current go through the coils so that when one of them is at it's max voltage and current the other would be at it's minimum but still have a small amount of current to maintain the magnetic field.

What do you think?

Sounds interesting, wow!!, that wire have some huge resistance in so short distance!!
Probably it could be used on the rotary switch, as a commutator-rheostat

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

This is the Analysis 3...and I uploaded an Image for it.

It is based on the same previous Block Diagrams shown before.

It shows a "similar" representation to what Figuera's image have related to the "R Box Espiras or Spirals", however, the Inductors does NOT go that way in the real setup...they are represented here as vertical, and they actually go Horizontally...
And that was done only to show a clear connection with Part G Commutator, same as Figuera represented it.

But mainly ALL the Inductors on the R Box, are just shorts Coils, which are connected in series (it is just like a large coil with taps to connect to commutator at certain even points...)

What we are doing here whenever the brush moves to one end, is to FULLY EXPAND one Magnetic Field, whichever have ALL the Coils added PLUS POWERED by a series connection to the end point, while the other Magnetic Field is COMPRESSED/ REDUCED all the way to the Coil of the related Primary (whether it is N or S).

The Opposite process takes place when the Brush moves to the opposite end...then the Field that was expanded starts a process of RETRACTING, while the other Field starts to EXPAND...

Each Full EXPAND-RETRACT for each Field takes Half an RPM, or 180º.

And this connections to Commutator are based on the same way Figuera had the "jumpers" across, to obtain the back and forth of a full rotary brush.

I will upload later a 3D Image of what it looks like in a real way about this setup.

Regards

Ufopolitics

FIGUERA'S_BLOCK_DIAG_ANALYSIS_3.png

Ok, here it is as promised...
The same Analysis but in 3D
I will explain it later on...and I will "clean up" better the image so everything is better seen.
But, for now you can start to "having an idea" of how it goes... :)


ANALYSIS_3_IN_3D.png

Hi again,

I have been studying your latest picture and am a little confused.  I had already been visualizing your coil setup from your earlier descriptions.  In my mind (probably wrong)  I had envisioned the bloc wall as being where ever the brush was.  In other words on one side of the brush the coil would be south and on the other side it would be north.  Then as the brush moves toward one end the north for example would spread out and weaken while the south would compress and get stronger thus moving the bloc wall to follow the movement of the brush. And the moving bloc wall would of course generate power in the secondary coils.  But in your picture you are showing two norths and two souths.  What is creating the second set of poles?

Respectfully,
Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Dec 02, 2023, 12:50 PMHi again,

I have been studying your latest picture and am a little confused.  I had already been visualizing your coil setup from your earlier descriptions.  In my mind (probably wrong)  I had envisioned the bloc wall as being where ever the brush was.  In other words on one side of the brush the coil would be south and on the other side it would be north.  Then as the brush moves toward one end the north for example would spread out and weaken while the south would compress and get stronger thus moving the bloc wall to follow the movement of the brush. And the moving bloc wall would of course generate power in the secondary coils.  But in your picture you are showing two norths and two souths.  What is creating the second set of poles?

Respectfully,
Carroll

Hello Citfta,

Ok, I will try to put it as simple as I can...

Imagine you just wound one single coil, starting from Left to Right, you start CCW...and you feed both ends with Negative charge, while you tap (just scrap the enamel off the very center and solder it) and add the Positively charged wire...

Actually, you are creating Two Magnetic Fields, one to the right and another one to Left of whole coil, split by the Positive charge entering the center tap.

These Positive currents entering center tap goes two ways, one way is CW (Left to Coil) and the other way goes CCW (Right side of Coil) so it generates Two Opposite Poles at Tap.

And yes. you are correct, where the arrow injects Positive at Tap, there is also a Bloch Wall...So, in total, there are Three (3) Bloch Walls there...

Say you wound this coil in an Iron cylinder with some sliding heat paper wrapped so you can slide it off the steel core...You do that, take just the wire coil off and split it in two parts right at the Positive Tap...
And what do you have now?
You have Two Coils connected in Parallel... 

Normally whenever you approach Two Permanent Magnets by their opposite ends or at Attraction (without touching them physically) they automatically generate a "Third Wall" that is literally in Space, floating...This phenomena is covered in Ken Wheeler's book, plus you can check/verify yourself with a simple and cheap Magnetic Viewing Film.

I have created a drawing showing the same example I wrote above...attached here.

I will continue this, as I want to show what happens when you move that arrow...

                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                               

Ok,

Now, let's say the Positive Tap is not soldered, but is like a brush, running in a straight line of the wire coil, where the enamel has been stripped...so, brush can slide like in a Rheostat...

And in this image the Brush have been moved to the Left of screen...

Here what you are doing is "adding" more turns to the Coil at the Right side of Brush while taken off turns from the Left side of Coil...

Therefore, the Magnetic Field on Left had "shrunk" (retracted) while the Right-side Field has "expanded"...

Obviously, the opposite takes place when we move brush to the Right side...




Cheers...We are getting there... :D

Ufopolitics

Quote...Say you wound this coil in an Iron cylinder with some sliding heat paper wrapped so you can slide it off the steel core...You do that, take just the wire coil off and split it in two parts right at the Positive Tap...
And what do you have now?
You have Two Coils connected in Parallel...

Quoting myself above, then putting it in "Graphic Mode":

Yep.  I got it now.  When you said two coils in parallel I looked at only the coil segment on one side of the brush and realized that would be just like a single coil so of course it would have a north AND a south.  I guess I had what we old people call a senior moment.  Sorry about that.  I am working on some ideas for making a multi-tap coil and a rotory switch.  It looks like I won't be needing that resistance wire.  Just switch from one tap to another with NO losses to heat from going through a resistance.  Of course there is still the resistance of the coil wires themselves but not the resistance of the part G as most people (including myself) had assumed.

Great thinking UFO!!

Cheers.

Quote from: citfta on Dec 03, 2023, 07:16 AMYep.  I got it now.  When you said two coils in parallel I looked at only the coil segment on one side of the brush and realized that would be just like a single coil so of course it would have a north AND a south.  I guess I had what we old people call a senior moment.  Sorry about that.  I am working on some ideas for making a multi-tap coil and a rotory switch.  It looks like I won't be needing that resistance wire.  Just switch from one tap to another with NO losses to heat from going through a resistance.  Of course there is still the resistance of the coil wires themselves but not the resistance of the part G as most people (including myself) had assumed.

Great thinking UFO!!

Cheers.

No problem Citfta, We all have those "senior moments"...LOL
However, do not just run to your Lab and start winding coils this way!!
I am not done yet...and previous posts was just following exactly the way Figuera showed on his 1908 Patent...related to the switching process plus the connections...

Next Posts will be the full "revealing point of success"...
Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Ok, on ALL previous posts, I have been showing all connections* based on the Original 1908 Patent by Clemente Figuera.
However, the MAIN POINT here, is the NEW STRUCTURAL INCORPORATION of the "R Box" right in between both Primaries (N & S)...

*All connections, basically referring from the commutator jumpers across, to the way of having connected the R Box in a Single row of coils to N and S Primaries.

Meaning, that Figuera shows the R Box with ONLY Eight [8] contacts going to the 16 elements commutator, where Two(2) of those eight contacts are common, two straight contacts that also go one to each Primary N and S Positive end.

So, this Design, FORCES Us, to have ONLY ONE SET OF COILS SEQUENCES on the R Box...

As I have explained on my previous Posts, if We wire it and wound a SINGLE SET OF COILS SEQUENCES , we will generate Two Magnetic Fields, which are in ATTRACTION MODE (S/N-+-S/N) at the Positive feeding point...

This method of connections looks very neat and clean, as in "Theory", it looks as is completely perfect...All explanations from an "Electrical point of view" are understood fine, as it matches our "BASIC" knowledge about Magnetic Fields...after all, using a N-S Field Bond, is the way we always have been doing it along History...

So, this method is supposed to work beautifully, right, Uh?

WELL, NO, unfortunately, when I took this Method of Connections to the Real Build Testing, it does NOT WORK!!

For some reason, both Fields CANCEL Induction, and it does induce into Secondary, but it is nothing to consider as a "top notch" design...

However, like I mentioned before...this  is not "over yet", I never give up that easy...actually is getting better by the minute... ;D

Hello to All,

On the following image I uploaded the Diagram for the most successful way, to build just one Figuera Module... ;D

On previous builds I started connecting, using the Architecture that Figuera had in the original 1908 Patent, basically meaning:

1- Having just one set of series sequence coils, which attach to both coils on the N-S Parts on their extreme ends, while the brush moved in between these sequenced coils, all connected in series.

It did NOT WORK this way...

But since I had in mind what we are trying to do here, basically with the Magnetic Fields...

I decided to build TWO (2) SEPARATE/OPPOSITE SEQUENCE OF COILS ALSO IN SERIES, both sharing the same Negative (-) and the same Positive (+) from the Brush, EXCEPT AT DIFFERENT TIMING.

On this image (and I am sorry about the UFOPOLITICS watermark, but I do not want some "smart cookie" to start showing off on the whole web that this was His-Her Idea  ;D  )

Ok, so on the image, I have two EYES looking at each end of the Windings...and that means that you start winding each sequence of coils CCW at each extreme.

These Sequence Coils METHOD are NOT just winding one single layer of wire from one end to the other, then adding taps for each contact!!

These are build in order that each coil on the sequence, will have a specific resistance and a specific number of turns, all the same gauge.

Each Coil of the Sequence, must rise a strong Magnetic Field, with low resistance (around 0.5-0.3 Ohms) so, it needs to be of a higher gauge (not fine) like 16, 18 or 20 gauge.

The purpose here, is that by adding these coils in the sequence, the Magnetic Field will "grow" higher and expand in Spacetime, while keeping the same* strength.

These sequential coils are supposed to be very fast responsive in order to: building-extending the Field originated at each Primary (N & S) Coils, without much decay.

*is never going to keep the exact strength, because we are adding resistance as we move brush in the Field Gain Mode, reason why we must have very low resistance.

Now, We must first wound ALL Sequential Coils belonging to one Primary, whether N or S (wherever we decide to start...and then on a TOP LAYER (On top of ALL sequential Coils we already wound, we start winding the Second Row of Sequential Coils belonging to the other Primary.

Now, if you all noticed, the Part "Y" or the Induced Coil, is the Yellow rectangle on image, and that full coil is on the very LOWER LAYER of ALL other Coils and is wound right at the Steel Core.

Obviously, We need to start winding our Secondary Coil First than all, once we have chosen our steel core length and diameter.

The length of Core is given by the size of each Sequential Coil multiplied by Seven (7). So each Sequence of Coils will have seven contacts PLUS the Positive for each Primary...and Totaling 16 commutator Elements.

Each Single Coil on the Sequence (no matter of which Primary), MUST BE PERFECTLY WELL BALANCED, meaning, they must have the same gauge, same number of turns, same resistance, same number of layers, same length...etc,etc.

Best way, is to measure FIRST each coil length, according to the Wire-Resistance-Length Calculator.

I used for each Sequential Coil, 18 gauge, at 80 Ft, it gives around 0.511 ohms, and according to the Diameter of your Secondary or Y part, it will give you the number of turns/layers you will need.

The building of this setup (in General) must be done very neat and clean, meaning, each layer must be tight, must be evenly spread (not lousy one wire bent and on top of next one, etc), so, in the end, it results in a very smooth outer surface, to allow the further build of next layers.

I use a fine High Temperature Tape (Polyamide) to keep each layer tight, and prevent that top layer wire(s) will penetrate with lower ones.


Next I will post Connections with Commutator...


Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, here are all connections from the 16 elements commutator to the Figuera Generator Coils...

First thing I would like for you to notice, is that I no longer have the "Jumpers Across" on the Commutator, like Figuera had on his 1908 Patent.
So, that means I will be using ALL elements of Commutator here for a specific purpose, to move each sequence every 180º or:

1- Sequence of Coils One (1) From Left to Right, starting from Primary N (contact #1), will be displacement of brush from contacts 1 to 8...and AFTER contact eight [8], All sequences of Coils DIES!!
2- Sequence of Coils Two (2) From Right to Left, starting from Primary S (contact #9), will be displacement of brush from contacts 9 to 16...and After contact 16, all sequences on this side DIES, Collapse, etc,etc.

And so on and on...Like the Energizer Rabbit...LOL

In my tests, whenever there is a brush switching between Sequences [(8-9) and (16-1)], there is a spark-arcing on commutator, of course, this is due to the BEMF because of the collapse of all coils...

As I DO NOT want my Primaries Coils Fields to NEVER collapse...I added an Electrolytic Capacitor in between neg and positive contacts to BOTH Primaries C1 and C2 (Contact#1 to Neg, plus Contact#9 to Neg) to BOTH Primaries.
These Capacitors kill completely the arcing effect, as my Fields would be alive, enough time until next run that Coils would be fully powered.

Now, NOT ANY caps capacitance value will work here, it depends on the Resistance/Inductance of your primaries, and the BEST/IDEAL is that a TANK CIRCUIT be generated here between Cap and L1 or Primary Coils, where they be within the resonance point.

Primaries can NOT be of too much Inductance/Resistance either...They are very close to Sequential Coils parameters...maybe a few milliohms more...

For example: On my second setup (after I have a functioning build, that I put aside to keep testing other possibilities) I used Sequential Coils of 0.5 Ohms...and I wound a Primary of 2.0 Ohms and it kill the effect...plus did not get it to work with any Cap...yes, It lowered the Input Amps, considerably, but the Field was not expanding-retracting like on the working setup.

Like I mentioned on my previous post, You need to build very fast responsive coils here, including Primaries, that do not take too much time to build the Magnetic Field to its full extent...

Finally, let me say this...It is NOT easy to build this setup the first time and be working excellent, it takes time to tune your Primary coils to work in a proper COMPENSATION LEVEL with your Sequential Coils.

The good thing on this design, is that you do NOT need to build the whole thing to test it!!

With ONLY one side of Primary PLUS, it's Sequential Coils, you will see a nice Output Induction...then you can work with this "half setup" to obtain higher and higher results until you get the desired output.

Think You will be actually Doubling your Output, when you add the other set of Primary+Sequential Coils.

Another thing here (and this is not all) This System requires thick Iron Plates on the sides (Outer Wall of Primaries Core) to even enhance your output more and more...and at the same token, it would act as a heat sink for longer period of operation.

Regards

Ufopolitics

This machine that We are building here, is just like a dual piston pump, where the "liquid" it pumps, are just Two Magnetic Field Virtual Spectrums.
Each Field expands and retracts as Figuera wrote, imitating the magnetic field on a rotary generator system, like He analyzed as they come and they leave, from the perspective view of the induced ( se acercan y se alejan de el inducido)...

Mechanically, each piston have a base or primary Coil, where they retract to, and energy is stored in its LC Tank, not allowing the Field to collapse and keeping it during the full retraction stage (current supply off from switching system on the referred side).

A number of orderly switching coils are connected in series to each Primary, where each set of primary-switching coils, run independent from each other's, with different positive input, set at 180º apart.
Each set of switching coils turns on following a sequence that starts from the coil closer to its primary to the last one at the opposite extreme, binding with the other side Primary face.

This orderly switching coil channels actuate alternatively (when one channel is on, the other one is off) this makes the Fields to expand and retract within the same steel core at intervals. Just like two reciprocating pistons in a linear engine.

The switching coils are just "short extensions" of the primary coil, as they expand the Field through space or full length of steel core where the induced is located, they are all wound in the same direction as the primary. What these switching coils do to the magnetic field is to expand it and contract it in a consecutive way fashion.

This continuous movement of fields expanding and contracting through spacetime generates an output at the Induced, which is located exactly within the switching coils and wound on the steel core.

As we know magnetic fields flow in a tridimensional way through space that expands beyond the steel core physical dimension, therefore, also this constant movement would project to outer space of steel core, then, we can also collect induction from each side of core as also above, surrounding where switching coils are set. A full 360º collection of just two moving fields.

And this machine as described before, is just one "Module", which could be reproduced as many times we wish, where all switching coils are run by the same controller...all we need to do is to correct the resistance-inductance values according to the number of modules used on the setup.

This Machine generates Two Opposed Alternated and Progressive Electro-Magnetic Pulses, where each time one pulse is active for a period of time/angle of 180º, the other one is off or fully retracted to its Primary.
Each Pulse is GENERATED PROGRESSIVELY during its cycle, accumulating a series of activated coils until ALL are ON, then it dies, to allow the other Pulse to generate.
When the Machine is operating at 3600 Revolutions Per Minute (RPM´s) or 60 hertz where each FULL pulse is generated every 180º displacement (half cycle). In a full cycle, the two opposed pulses will fully develop alternatively.

The Part "N" and "S" are the start of each Electro Magnetic Field, plus also serve as the Storage Coils (when added with an Electrolytic Cap for each), during the period when Field is turn OFF, this way the retracted Magnetic Field will never collapse while the second Pulse is fully generating, hence, there will not be any Back EMF, and as a result, there will not be any arcing/overheating on commutators, due that not reverse voltage is originated at its terminals.

The Sequentially Switching Coils serve mainly to EXPAND the Field (that was originally generated at each part N and S respectively) LINEARLY through SPACE/TIME.

And for today...I am done with this Part of the Disclosure...any questions, doubts, opinions are welcome...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Next, I will open a Specific Topic under General Builders Category, where I will share some specifics about these builds, plus images about of my setup.

Sorry Guests, but this Future Thread would be "For Members Only"

The Membership is Free...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

Following along with great interest. This looks very good.

However, a thought and a suggestion for the future:

Referring to patent 44267,
"PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns, while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one."

I don't think your circuit does exactly that. If you graph your circuit current as a sine wave it appears that your induction will peak at 90 deg then collapse to almost 0 and immediately start increasing on the negative side, also at 90 deg or there about. Then the current of opposite sign will increase to max at 180 deg then collapse back to 0 at 180 deg. In effect, 2 half sines.

If the commutator segments were doubled a truer sine could be produced. Increase the connected coil segments from 1 to 8, then decrease one segment at a time back to the first. Then repeat the sequence for the opposite set of coils with the other half of the commutator segments. This should produce a full sine wave. The induced will output as the field is reduced just as it did while the field was increasing. A gradual decrease like this might also alleviate the sparking to a large extent when the inducing fields swap polarity.

Just something for you to think about.

Regards

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMHi Ufo,

Following along with great interest. This looks very good.

Great, thanks Cadman, and welcome here!!

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMHowever, a thought and a suggestion for the future:

I don't think your circuit does exactly that. If you graph your circuit current as a sine wave it appears that your induction will peak at 90 deg then collapse to almost 0 and immediately start increasing on the negative side, also at 90 deg or there about. Then the current of opposite sign will increase to max at 180 deg then collapse back to 0 at 180 deg. In effect, 2 half sines.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with your analysis, if I am understanding well (and I may not)...
Ok, each Magnetic Field in Gain Mode, say starting at Primary N, it gradually ascends to a peaks when the last coil in the sequence is powered (N-8) and that takes place exactly at 180º of Brush positioning. So, this is the Peak of sinewave, and not at 90º.
However, I do agree that when brush passes contact for Coil#8, ALL Sequential Coils collapse except the Primary (once we have a Cap on it, like I have shown previously)
And actually, when all these coils collapse, their BEMF returns to Cap through the series connections (no diode is required). And this makes the collapse, not to be a straight vertical fall (steep), but it smooths it out.
At least that is what I have been observing on my Scope...the "raw" signal is not smooth though; it is an escalated signal, that goes on the positive and negative side.

I have no idea, why you figured out that Positive sine peaks at 90 and Negative peaks at 180 degrees? If All the sequential Coils are exactly the same number plus the same configuration.

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMIf the commutator segments were doubled a truer sine could be produced. Increase the connected coil segments from 1 to 8, then decrease one segment at a time back to the first. Then repeat the sequence for the opposite set of coils with the other half of the commutator segments. This should produce a full sine wave. The induced will output as the field is reduced just as it did while the field was increasing. A gradual decrease like this might also alleviate the sparking to a large extent when the inducing fields swap polarity.

I do not believe you read when I post about commutator "doubled" or with the jumpers, so I only have 8 contacts...it does not work for this setup.
If you use these jumpers you get 8 contacts only, then you only can use ONE Set of Sequential Coils, then it wires as Figuera Patent, meaning that we must connect this center sequence to both ends of each primary...I have been there and done that, it does not work when you insert, (like I am doing) the R Box in between Primaries.

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMJust something for you to think about.

Regards

Thanks for the advice Cadman
But what I am disclosing here is a "Proven Concept that it works setup"...and I will continue doing it until I am finished, "as is" ...no changes for now...
Once that any of you (Builders here) start replicating it, yes, we may find better ways to improve it or develop it further.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

I would like to add here that I am getting basically "the essence" from the Figuera Generator 1908 Patent.

Yes he starts his explanation based on the first generator from Clarke, a Rotary Generator, in order to view-analyze what is going on with the Magnetic Field, generated by the Exciter, whenever it rotates, and viewed from the Induced point of view...However, after that Figuera mentions Faraday's main principle of Induction, and the first experiment that led him to discover induction, is not exactly based on a rotary generator...but simply introducing a straight magnetic steel cylinder inside a straight hollow coil...and observing how the needle moved on his Galvanometer, whenever going inwards and outwards of coil.

So, this is exactly what I am doing here on this Magnetic Linear Pump Design, As Faraday did originally on his first experiment, except, I have Two Magnets instead of just one, one on each extreme of the induced coil, and working in a reciprocate way, so when we introduce one, the other is moved away...and vice versa.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Ok, I am using this post just to end this Page (since I have the Topics set for 5 Posts per page, due to the long posts with images that I am uploading, and I can change that anytime in the future)

I still have some more posts to upload here.
Please, wait until I am finished to add your post(s).

I got my hands full, and I want to finish at least this part.

Thanks

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, here I will start a sequence of images based on a Longitudinal Sectional Cut View, in order that You can have a "Layer's View" of ALL Coils, plus also of the Steel Cores...of just one Module of this Figuera Generator...

On this First Image, and starting from the very center:

1- Longitudinal Center Steel Core, (shaded in black) and this Core can be of ANY Shape or form...Square-Rectangular, Round-Cylindrical or else...on the Rectangular Shape it could be done with regular laminated steel, like in any Transformer...I am just starting my prototypes on a Round Cylindrical Core, because it is easier to cut and shape in a Lathe.

2- The Part "y" or the Induced, (in a yellow color) where we take our Output from, it wraps FIRST than all other coils directly to steel core.

3- The Part "N" and Part "S" located at each extreme end of steel core (in Gold [N] and Green respectively.

4- The First Sequence of Coils for Part "N" (in Gold): N1, N2, N3, N4, N5, N6, N7 in that firing order, from Left to Right.

5- The Second Sequence of Coils for Part "S" (in Green): S1, S2, S3, S4, S5, S6, S7, in that order they fire from Right to Left.

Note that when we add pins to make wiring connections, they get a different numbering sequence, that extends from 1-8 and 9-16, and that is because we start by attaching the end of each Primary to the First Coil on each sequence. Therefore, when adding Primaries, we have Eight plus Eight total coils.

So, on this image for easier understanding, I have given same sequence numbers from 1-7 to both Sequential Coils.

Anyways, I want you to realize that I am disclosing exactly the setup I am working on now.

It does not means -at all- that it can not be done differently, like using 20 commutator elements, or using rectangular steel laminations from an old transformer for the core(s)...etc,etc.

This Method will work on different Geometries, as long as you can fit all components there, and wire it accordingly.

It does not matter if your cores have "hexagon" (not round) cylindrical shape, or square, or rectangular, the Magnetic Field would still be generated SPATIALLY for ALL Geometries in the SAME SHAPE... :)

And, it must be on an Elongated Geometry, not in an Sphere shape of course! So, do not take "literally" when I wrote "any geometry"... ;D


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Ok, here I have the same image as I have in prior post, but here with all possibilities to add more Induced Coils that would be outputting from the same Magnetic Fields displacement.

I already explained that Magnetic Fields expands Spatially, beyond its physical originating Core-Coil, and so, this Electromagnetic Pulses would also be transferred into its Spacetime three dimensional volume.

This allows to add additional Secondaries in different positioning around its embodiment.

1- We have the original Part "y" that has been showed on previous posts.

2- Plus an Out most Coil "y 2"(above ALL the sequential Coils)

3- Plus a Right Side Coil "y 3" that could go above Primary S, or side by side will also work, (on this image is shown above S).

4- Plus a Left Side Coil "y 4" shown on the image on top of Primary N.

These last Two Induced Coils y3-y4, can be connected (wired) in series, as each of them would be getting majority of induction from the opposite Sequencing of Coils.
So, once connected in series, they will add up both Pulses.

One more thing...the Outer Cap Plates shown here, I have them in my setup, they are solid steel caps about 3/4 of an inch, that bolt to main inner steel cylinder core, and whenever I add them on, while running the generator, the output increases considerably.

Ok, and this is my final post for today, related to this Disclosure.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Dec 05, 2023, 11:03 AM

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMHowever, a thought and a suggestion for the future:

I don't think your circuit does exactly that. If you graph your circuit current as a sine wave it appears that your induction will peak at 90 deg then collapse to almost 0 and immediately start increasing on the negative side, also at 90 deg or there about. Then the current of opposite sign will increase to max at 180 deg then collapse back to 0 at 180 deg. In effect, 2 half sines.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with your analysis, if I am understanding well (and I may not)...

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 10:01 AMIf the commutator segments were doubled a truer sine could be produced. Increase the connected coil segments from 1 to 8, then decrease one segment at a time back to the first. Then repeat the sequence for the opposite set of coils with the other half of the commutator segments. This should produce a full sine wave. The induced will output as the field is reduced just as it did while the field was increasing. A gradual decrease like this might also alleviate the sparking to a large extent when the inducing fields swap polarity.

Just something for you to think about.

Regards

Ok, Cadman,

My big time apologies!!

By the time you wrote your post, I was involved into posting the two more images that I uploaded before...and my head was not that clear to understand what you meant...
That is why I wrote then :  if I am understanding well (and I may not)...

Well, now I am sure I did not understand you AT ALL that first time...

Ok, after going over again and again on what you wrote above...I finally believe I understand it now (I hope so...lol)

What you meant is to leave the jumpers as Figuera had it originally...right?
Then you only get 8 contacts out...that sequence 1 through 8 (first 180º) and then go backwards or from 8 through 1 (in the other 180º)

And the way you want to do it, is using those eight contacts to BOTH Sequential Coils Group.

Except that one group of coils (say for N Primary) will be wired 1 through 8 and the other sequential group (for Primary S) would be wired from 8 through 1

I think I got it !!! :))

And just looking at it briefly...I think you are COMPLETELY RIGHT!!

And if it works, it will be AWESOME!!... just because none of the sequential groups will collapse all the sudden, but gradually and smoothly!!

And I will still have two independent Group of Sequentially driven Coils!!

SUPERB IDEA MY FRIEND!!...AWESOME!!

Next I will  put some CAD Connections...for Us to go over it...

Thanks!!

Best Regards

Ufopolitics

I also agree with your interpretation of what CADMAN posted.  I think it may work even better but only a real test will show if the caps somehow add to the induction process or if the process is better without them.  Great work guys!  

On another thought.  UFO, your cad drawings seem to indicate that the primaries are bigger than the sequential coils.  Is that correct?  I understand all the sequential coils need to be the same but can the primary coils be larger?

Regards,
Carroll

Hi guys,

I meant actually use a 32 segment commutator.

I don't want to derail this thread or your build any more than I have, so I can explain it better when you open the thread for comments.

Ok?

16 vs 32 segments.png

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 05, 2023, 04:50 PMHi guys,

I meant actually use a 32 segment commutator.

I don't want to derail this thread or your build any more than I have, so I can explain it better when you open the thread for comments.

Ok?

16 vs 32 segments.png

Hello Cadman,

Hey, it is ok to post on this thread, it is open.
What I meant is whenever I am uploading a sequence of posts-images, I want them to stay all together, or one after the other one...after I am done, then I write it on the bottom of last post.
And I think that by now, I am done with new images.

So, you meant a 32 comm elements Uh?...that means I still did not understand you!! right?... :))

Ok, so the misunderstanding gave results!!...because I think it will work better than what I had before...with the jumpers or just eight contacts out...

I am making a CAD separating the group of coils apart to better see these connections...but now I am sure it can work this way.

@Cadman: In this program, once that you upload the attachment and it shows below your post window, it have some arrows up ^, next to the "delete garbage can" icon, you need to press ^ and then it will ask for width/height, just ignore it and press the INSERT button.

I uploaded for you on the post.

@Citfta, Yes, agree with you, I think this way it will work even better...but until it is tested we can not be sure.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

Ok, then I'll try to explain myself better. Before I do that I want to say that I hope you will not change your build in any way just yet. Let's save these musings of mine for the future. Ok?

Leaving the commutator jumpers like the patent drawings did not work for me years ago. However, my build back then did not overlap the induced coils with the inducers like you are doing now, so there is that.

Now to attempt to explain better how my thinking has evolved over the years. For reference I'm attaching an image about electromagnetic induction from the 1917 Hawkins Electrical Guide.

Figuera and Buforn were emulating a generator, or dynamo as they used to say, and in one of the very first patents state: "We, through an intermittent or alternating electric current achieve a variation in the magnetic state of the cores of the excitatory electromagnets, and also changing, the magnetic state of the cores on which the induced circuit is coiled ..." To me this does not necessarily mean a variation and change of state at the same time. They also state "it is essential that lines of forces to be born and die", and also describe the inducing behavior of a normal generator "making the core or cores approaching or moving from the magnetic centers created by the excitatory electromagnets".

In a dynamo back then, the field acting upon the induced gradually falls to near zero in between the field poles as the armature rotates. I think this step is important, if not essential.

What I think we all did wrong before now, was by having both inducer fields growing and shrinking together in tandem (comm segments jumpered), we were inducing 2 polarities at the same time in the induced coil.

Raising one polarity while lowering the other polarity equally does not really change the number of lines doing the inducing. Instead it's canceling one field while raising the other and keeping the total number of lines about the same. They're fighting each other, and as the Hawkins guide says, 'the magnetic lines would be a curved complex form'. It's not the changing polarity of the lines, it's the changing number of lines embraced by the induced coil that results in magnetic induction.

In summary, I think we need to emulate a dynamo, or generator, as closely as possible. That is what the 32 segment comm idea is about.

From_1917_Hawkins_Electrical_Guide.png

32_segment_comm_conections_maybe.png

I think these connections are correct. ?

Regards
Cadman

Quote from: citfta on Dec 05, 2023, 04:23 PMI also agree with your interpretation of what CADMAN posted.  I think it may work even better but only a real test will show if the caps somehow add to the induction process or if the process is better without them.  Great work guys!

Hello Citfta,
Yes, I think also it will work MUCH better than the way I had it before...
First, We will have a smoother "landing" of the collapsing sequential coils, not a steep, vertical straight line collapse...
Second, the resistance would increase, because we are using mostly all coils during operation, (versus previous setup) and that will reduce input currents drastically .
Third, the two fields facing each others would be ON all the time during increase/decrease periods.
If you realize, by the way of winding this coils, we have two opposed poles always at interaction, previous one single coil on the OEM Figuera, meaning, we have REPULSION, not Attraction.

Quote from: citfta on Dec 05, 2023, 04:23 PMOn another thought.  UFO, your cad drawings seem to indicate that the primaries are bigger than the sequential coils.  Is that correct?  I understand all the sequential coils need to be the same but can the primary coils be larger?

Regards,
Carroll

Yes, the primaries need to be just "a bit" higher in resistance, number of turns than sequential coils...
E.G: I have 0.5 ohms at seq coils and 0.8-0.9 at primaries...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 06, 2023, 06:50 AMHi Ufo,

Ok, then I'll try to explain myself better. Before I do that I want to say that I hope you will not change your build in any way just yet. Let's save these musings of mine for the future. Ok?

Leaving the commutator jumpers like the patent drawings did not work for me years ago. However, my build back then did not overlap the induced coils with the inducers like you are doing now, so there is that.

Hi Cadman,

Ok, do not worry, I will not change my working setup no matter what...I am instead, building a second one (that btw, I have not been able to touch it much, because all this images making, posts plus site maintenance...)

It did not work for me either with Figuera OEM method...that is why I migrated to many different other arrangements up to now.

Trust me, with this new arrangement of simply adding the R Box within the Generator itself will bring many positive results. Problem is to make it work in a "pristine condition" to get the max out.

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 06, 2023, 06:50 AMNow to attempt to explain better how my thinking has evolved over the years. For reference I'm attaching an image about electromagnetic induction from the 1917 Hawkins Electrical Guide.

Figuera and Buforn were emulating a generator, or dynamo as they used to say, and in one of the very first patents state: "We, through an intermittent or alternating electric current achieve a variation in the magnetic state of the cores of the excitatory electromagnets, and also changing, the magnetic state of the cores on which the induced circuit is coiled ..." To me this does not necessarily mean a variation and change of state at the same time. They also state "it is essential that lines of forces to be born and die", and also describe the inducing behavior of a normal generator "making the core or cores approaching or moving from the magnetic centers created by the excitatory electromagnets".

In a dynamo back then, the field acting upon the induced gradually falls to near zero in between the field poles as the armature rotates. I think this step is important, if not essential.

What I think we all did wrong before now, was by having both inducer fields growing and shrinking together in tandem (comm segments jumpered), we were inducing 2 polarities at the same time in the induced coil.

Raising one polarity while lowering the other polarity equally does not really change the number of lines doing the inducing. Instead it's canceling one field while raising the other and keeping the total number of lines about the same. They're fighting each other, and as the Hawkins guide says, 'the magnetic lines would be a curved complex form'. It's not the changing polarity of the lines, it's the changing number of lines embraced by the induced coil that results in magnetic induction.

Ok, here I disagree a bit with your above conclusions...
When we expand a Magnetic Field, you must realize we are changing its 3D Spatial Volumen, which is beyond the core and coil physical volume (not saying it increases number of "imaginary lines" here)
And so, whenever we retract, shrink, a Magnetic Field, we are also diminishing its 3D Spatial Volumen...
And these both changes (Expand-Retract) do generate induction in a proximity coil which is within the reach of such field volumes... 

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 06, 2023, 06:50 AMIn summary, I think we need to emulate a dynamo, or generator, as closely as possible. That is what the 32 segment comm idea is about.

32_segment_comm_conections_maybe.png

I think these connections are correct. ?

Regards
Cadman

I see what you are doing with the 32 comm elements...
You are generating a "Four Tempo's" instead of just Two tempos, like with the 16 elements, tempos are every 180 deg, while with 32 you have tempos of 90 deg each...
I will explain the way I see it:

On upper Hemisphere of commutator (from 17 to 32) you have first an ascending order from 17 to 24-25, or your peak on sinewave, to then start a smooth downfall from 26 to 32 for red sequential coils.
So, same thing happens from 1 to 8-9 on the other sequencing coils (blue) ascending, to then smooth fall descending up to element 16.

Now, while brush is running on either upper or lower hemisphere, I see the other side is dead...the same thing that I had originally with the 180 ON for one set of sequencing, 180 OFF for the other coils group scenario...

And I am sorry, but what I can NOT see, is how do you figure out a negative sine here?...because I am seeing two, smooth positive sines, for both sequences.

Anyways, I am posting next some CAD I have done to better see how these interactions play, having the jumpers on, for a Two Sequential Group...
Honestly, I found Two Flaws with this design, that I need to correct, before I run a real test.

But, do not worry, I am sure we will get there, after all we have more resources now than Figuera had in 1908...right?

Best regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, first, on the Site Status, there was a light attack last night on Host Servers...but this morning it was just a heavy traffic volume, that crashed website for a few minutes.
I am moving into a Higher Capacity Server, as I write here, plus I already backed up all files, including MySQL database tables.

Now, on the Figuera new method disclosure...I made another CAD image uploaded here, where I set both sequential coils groups separated in order to better see, their interactions and find any possible errors, before running it on real time...

Unfortunately, I found a couple of flaws on this method to use the jumpers on commutator to run both coils sequences on the image below:

1- I do not like that at the same timing, the two opposite "head coils" are overlapping (one on top of the other), this could be either good or bad, knowing we have same polarities coils, meaning opposed in repulsion mode. So, it is not as bad as the following flaw...it has to be checked in real tests.
2- I see a LEAK, on positive (or negative, whichever way you prefer to see it) according to where I have positioned the red positive brush on this image:

So, in an "ideal scenario" we will have ON, coils# 1,2,3,4 & 5 for N Primary. (squares in red with upper arrow pointing direction of currents, from pos to neg)
As we have for lower sequence ON, for coils #13,12,11,10 & 9...
While other coils are "supposedly OFF", like I have written on dead or off coils, right?

Well Not so...if you look closely, positive charges will travel through ON Coils through the commutator elements-jumpers to the OFF Coils on their opposite side...turning them all ON, on both sides.

So, either I try to fix this issue, maybe with diodes...I  will see if it could be done...or I have to discard this method and return to my previous one...

Regards

Ufopolitics

I agree with your conclusion about the short from one side to the other.  I am not sure how you could use diodes to correct that.  But I do have another idea.  I haven't seen your switching system yet but if you could separate one side from the other by using two contact pads and use a wider brush that would contact both pads at the same time then you would only have the two sides connected when the brush was feeding those two coils and the rest of the time they would be isolated.  That is only slightly more mechanically complicated.  I have seen brushes used like that in industrial equipment.  I also worked on an old Jukebox that had contacts like that.

Regards,
Carroll

Hello to All,

Ok, related to the site outages, it's been solved, we migrated the entire site to a new host server last night, so, no more interruptions.

Related to Figuera Discussion, yes Citfta, diodes are never going to work here, discarded...so, previous setup also had leaks and actually kept all coils on during operation...so it was not going to work either.
Now, I can go back to original disclosed method, which collapse all coils in the sequence, once that it reaches the end travel...this shows, as Cadman previously stated, a steep, vertical fall, not at all smooth...and I did not like it either.
The Retraction Stage should be smooth when going down, as also when is going up (Gain Mode).

So, by looking at all my already wound coils in heavier gauge (14-16)...in order to save time...I found one which has 4 inches length...and it is not that thick because it have a core of 1 1/4 inch.

Remember, that the starting point to build your Generator, is to start by designing the size (Length & Thickness) of your Secondary, and of course, that also have a pretty good number of turns/layers in order that Output be High enough...

So, on this 4-inch-long coil, I can add Four plus Four set of sequential coils of about one inch each...setting them like before I had done it, meaning, overlapped, one group and second on top...

Or I can also use an "alternating way" to set them, next to each other's, and of about 1/2 inch length each.

And here I want to add a Special Recommendation:

You do not have to be bound, constrained to the "exact build" as the Design that Figuera did back in 1908...meaning, on the number of sequential coils, or the way that it looks on his figure on patent...after all Figuera wrote..."this drawing is shown just for ELEMENTARY UNDERSTANDING of the whole idea..."
Please, free your mind from all these restraints!!...as long as the essential idea prevails, that is the only part to keep intact...all the rest can vary...remember, You and only you, are the one that restricts your way of thinking!!

So, here I will bring you a "new arrangement", where I do not have the sequential coils disposed as one group on top of the other, or overlapped, like I have shown before, but instead, next to each other's, alternatively.
What you must have in mind, is that the GEOMETRY for Coils design CHANGES, according to each method.
For example, on the overlapped method, the coils on the sequence need to be built longer and flatter in shape.
While on the Alternated Method, is the opposite Geometry, Coils here are as Thin in length as possible, (simply because you do not want to create a huge Gap between them, or else, formed Magnetic Field -between coils- would not be as strong, as when coils of the same sequence are closer to each other's, and can grow in height as high as the length of wire (previously measured to desired resistance) plus turns, take you...

On image below diagram, I finally have a smooth downfall on both Sequential Coil Groups, and they alternate, reciprocating every 180º. And I am using the jumpers across the commutator like Figuera had it originally on his 1908 Patent.

This Drawing explanation:

First, All Coils on each sequence are connected in SERIES, between them, as I also had them before.

According to Brush positioning, and rotation direction, Blue Primary N(1) is ON, and as brush moves it will start energizing Coils 2, 3, 4, sinewave is ascending, staying two segments on position 4 (Peak), from here sinewave starts the smooth downfall, as Coils order descends to 4, 3, 2, 1 in sequential fashion. While Red Primary S(5) and all coils on its sequence are OFF.

After Brush passes comm element #4, it starts energizing S(5) only...and as brush keeps going, it starts the Red sequence to turn ON Coils 6, 7, 8 or ascending sine (at #8 is the peak for red sequence), stays there two contacts/elements, then  starts the downfall sine, energizing coils the opposite way: 8, 7, 6 and back to Primary S(5) to

So, this is another build that I am starting, which is much simpler than previous one, that had 16 coils...

Any comments, opinions are welcome.

Thanks

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: citfta on Dec 06, 2023, 01:53 PMI agree with your conclusion about the short from one side to the other.  I am not sure how you could use diodes to correct that.  But I do have another idea.  I haven't seen your switching system yet but if you could separate one side from the other by using two contact pads and use a wider brush that would contact both pads at the same time then you would only have the two sides connected when the brush was feeding those two coils and the rest of the time they would be isolated.  That is only slightly more mechanically complicated.  I have seen brushes used like that in industrial equipment.  I also worked on an old Jukebox that had contacts like that.

Regards,
Carroll

Thanks, Citfta for all your great suggestions!!

Yes, I know... diodes are not going to work to solve this issue...and I do understand about making two commutator rows with one brush for both to keep separated coils sequences...but

at this point, I rather do not start taking apart my rotary switch, to make radical changes...but to work with what I have so far, to make it work...as I have shown on previous post.

This new design is much simpler related to number of coils used...and whole size of Secondary...

Best Regards

Ufopolitics

Ok, finally...

And after all, Cadman was right!!... about using the 32 commutator elements, to be able to sequence all 16 coils (8+8) according to the latest Diagram-Design that I have shown on previous post...

Concluding, that these type of sequencing, using the jumpers plus in order to have a smooth downfall, it needs to be done -at least- in 90º steps.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, on next post I will be showing a different method to just wire connect the sequences on the same setup I posted previously, or the Two Sequential Group of Four Coils each.

The Commutator design part, I think is flawless now... ;D...As I could not find any leaks, or short circuits, and I now have a smooth ascending as descending signal  8)

But, wiring it to the sequential coils in FULL SERIES CONNECTION, as I have previously presented since the beginning, and the way I have tested the first working setup, it had some issues, I was always concerned about:

Since it is based on a pure series connection, with a single/common negative, that serves to ALL Coils on each sequence, and that is connected only to the First Coil or the Primaries (N and S) this have some critical errors, that I verified with the first prototype I built and tested.

1- The Primaries take "All the Heat" during operation, they work as the warmest coils on the whole sequence.

2- Since it is a Full Series Connection, Currents keep constant during operation, BUT, Voltage drops, as it develops towards the end coil on the sequence, PLUS, this end Coil carries all the Resistance added from previous Coils on the Sequence...AND, this is NOT good at all!!, simply, because that end coil, barely powers on, it keeps extremely cold during operation, and it DOES NOT show a STRONG Magnetic Field, whenever observed with the Magnetic Viewing Film.

I want this END COIL, to be the STRONGEST on the whole sequence!!...Just because this end coil is the one at the very end TRAVEL of the Induced or Part "y" TOTAL LENGTH, and if we achieve that this end coil is the strongest on sequence, it will establish a very strong link with the rest of coils behind, so the Magnetic FIELD SPECTRUM TRACE, would be all the way to the end VERY SOLID, VERY STRONG every time a FULL GAIN MODE (Ascending) is turned ON.

So, I found a solution...At least, I think so...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Well, this time I am showing a PARALLEL-SERIES CONNECTION circuit, where I used Assisting Diodes, in order to GATE OUT only one way, as the Positive signals from Brush-Commutator develops the Sequence for each coil.

You must read my previous post, in order to FULLY UNDERSTAND the reasons why, I decided to Test this way of connections.

But, I will do the explanation about this New Diagram in detail. So, keep refreshing, because I will keep editing/adding to this post, below the image...




Now, first, notice that I have ALL Coils in the Sequence connected to Negative, this means that now, the negative terminal will not be just one, and connected to only the Primary Coils, avoiding the Total Power to concentrate on this two coils.

Second, and I consider this is the most important part, observe how the LAST COIL on each sequence, receives a DIRECT FULL POWER AT THE END TRAVEL of Ascending or the Gain Mode, without the Diodes resistance added, like the rest, EXCEPT the PRIMARIES, which also receive FULL POWER. ON THE START and THE END of each sequence.

This new arrangement is crucial for a better handling and disbursement of Currents and the Total Power during operation. Mainly of the TWO more important Coils on the whole sequence, The FIRST and the LAST Coils, no matter how many coils you add here in between!!

And the main point here is to concentrate on, the Magnetic Field Spectrum behavior.

By KEEPING STRONGER the Two End coils of Each magnetic sequence chain, no matter if the "in between coils" are weaker, these Two Coils at each end, will maintain a FULL and STRONGER FIELD NETWORK, than before we had.

Of course, if you notice, the Primaries get FULL POWER, ONLY AT the START plus at the END of each FULL sequence (Ascend plus Descend), and so, at the LAST SEQUENCE STEP, the END COIL(S) (for both sequences) receive a Full Power connection from source.

But in order to avoid the Primaries to deter or starve on power, when sequential Brush contact travels to Mid Coils, being subject to Diodes Resistance adding...We can connect the Electrolytic Capacitor, I mentioned earlier at the beginning of this Disclosure.

This E-Cap will go right in between each of the two Primary terminals, and it don't need to be of high capacitance, but enough, in order to keep full power to these two primaries, just in the "mid-way" of Brush travel...

Of course, Diodes MUST BE FAST SWITCHERS, and that also can handle the Operational PULSED Voltages and Currents., and preferably, NOT to have a High Resistance.

that's all folks!!

Best Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Well, I am back to work today on this new setup...

I already have found -like I mentioned before- a suitable coil, which I am going to use as Secondary, Part "y" and its steel core.
It is wound with 14 gauge, several layers, and have around 1.0 Ohms resistance...

It is better to wrap this coil with an Aluminum sheet, not a soft aluminum like aluminum wrap!!, but that have strength to give me a steady and strong flat surface.
From here I calculate the width of each coil along the length of these four (4) inches long coil.

Then each sequence coil will have around 1/2 inch (13mm) width...and height would be dictated by the number of turn/layers, that all the previously measured wire, will give me.

Also, it is better, if I build each coil separated from secondary, on a separate spool-mold that I build myself, with its internal diameter, fitting on the outer diameter of secondary.

ALL Eight Coils would be wound CCW...and when you reverse/separate Four for N and Four for S, they will face as opposite wound to each sequential group.

After I finish winding the eight coils, it is just a matter of testing all different types of connections that I have shown here.

This Method -like I mentioned before- could be tested "half way", meaning when you only have four coils connected, and watch output on Secondary.

It is also a great test, to disconnect one group of sequential coils from commutator, and excite just the other one, and observe the result of the other group, when connected to a voltmeter...you would be surprised... ;)

I will keep an images update of my build progress here...

Regards

Ufopolitics

About the sequencing coils build...

These Coils on the Sequence- like I mentioned before as well- must be a high responsive coils when energized, they should build up a magnetic field as faster at the running RPM's system operates.
So, they can NOT be of high resistance like 10, 20 or 60 ohms...they are intermittent working coils, just like in a Brushed DC Motor Armature!!
Except that here, coils NEVER REVERSE Polarity, like in a typical Symmetrical Motor.

So, I am winding my sequence coils with 18 gauge, 80 ft, which gives me approx. 0.511 ohms

Now, if I use, 20 gauge for example, it would only be needed like 50 ft which gives 0.507 ohms...but it will have MUCH LESSER TURNS than using 18 gauge!!

And you all should know that the more turns in the coil we have, the stronger the field would be...right?

And that was just the difference between 18 and 20 gauge...

Regards

Ufopolitics

COIL#1...Seven more to go...It takes some time to prep the Mold/Spool...from here next is faster.

Hello to All,

I had to correct the base inner diameter size for the sequential coils, I was not happy that it is too big, If you note the gap between Seq. Coil and Secondary...is too big, causing coil to be "totally loose"...NOT GOOD!!

And these sequential coils must be pretty TIGHT, when we slide it into Output Coil.

Please realize that I am doing it this way, to be able to show on a video, how they mount on Output Coil Secondary, plus to conduct tests halfway (just 4 coils, out of eight, or half sine), moving the coils in different positions.

But once that we have the exact parameters perfectly well, then we can wind it directly to Secondary, using just Spacers to contain each coils as we are winding them.

These coils I am making with 18-gauge, 80 ft length on a Diameter of 2 1/2 inches, gives me a Total of Eight [8] Layers, each layer having 12 turns. Total turns=96, Total Height= 8 mm

Resistance= 0.5 Ohms, remember you must know your Meter Internal Resistance, then deduct it from Total Resistance shown, for example my Inductance-Resistance Meter have an internal Resistance of 0.3-0.4 ohms, depending on Room Temp. Example: when I measured one coil this morning, it gave me 0.9 ohms...and IR on Meter was 0.4 ohms, so, Total Resistance on Coil= 0.5 ohms.

Unless we are measuring Resistance with a Hyoki, double Probe wires, or a very precise equipment...with very low internal resistance.

Inductance: On Air (Hollow Core) = 1.09 mH, Now, once I insert Coil on Secondary + Steel Core, it rises to 1,280 mH at edge(s) of Core, and at Center it goes up to 1,350 mH

Remember, when Temperature rises on Operation, resistance also rises a few milliohms...and so Inductance.

So, I believe the Sequential Coils with these parameters, should work fine, as far as generating a Strong Field, and very fast response...we will see...

When Testing it Halfway...

This Test is done in order to know IF You are building it right...before engaging in winding ALL the rest of coils...So, you do NOT waste your time!!

Basically, the ROOT to build a very Strong Exciting Field on a Sequence of Coils, when we are applying a PULSED CURRENT, lies on maintaining a SPECIFIC RATIO between Voltages and Current.

So, if we are getting an INPUT RATIO of 12-10 Volts and 8-9 Amps and Pulsing at High Speed (3000 RPM's) ...it is NOT GOOD!!

We have to have a Ratio, where Voltage is HIGHER, MUCH HIGHER than Amperage!!

Ideal would be like 100 Volts and 1-2 Amps...

Or 50V and 0.5 to 0.8 Amps...

A Strong Magnetic Field needs HIGHER Voltage than Amperage, in order to be great enough to Generate a strong Induction on Secondary!!

Basically, for this Design.

Also, have in mind, that when you add the other Half of Coils to have a Full Sequence, All these Parameters will lower down, basically, since you are adding more resistance to the circuit, it should lower Amperage even more, I could say it will divide it by 2, approximately, of what it gave you in Halfway Testing.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

I am sorry I have not updated this Topic for a while...I have been very busy!!

Besides Website Maintenace, Upgrades (adding new mods to have better structure, plus server maintenance, plus other many things) I also have the "typical" daily routines...

However, I have NEVER STOPPED working on this project, AS IT IS THE MAIN REASON, I HAVE DONE ALL this work, like putting this website together!!


These Sequential Coils MUST be very tightly built, VERY COMPACT, meaning, layers and turns can NOT be loose, can NOT overlap wires between layers!!

I am doing ALL this Coils by Hand (even though, I own a Lathe, Bench Drills plus CNC) so that I can just insert Empty Spool on any of those Equipment's, and start winding all coils FASTER and Easier with their MOTORS assisting, still, I am going through the much longer process making coils by hand!

I have built a Special Mold-Spool (that I can take it apart after I am done winding) that keeps all coils on the same width, same number of Turns per Layer and very compact. I have made specific "tools" out of Plastic, Mica and Wood to be able to set, push, force ALL wires on the right position...

A completely LOOSELY WOUND coil would NEVER generate a VERY STRONG Magnetic Field like a very compact coil would, besides, the 'reactive response ratio' will decrease highly.

I use in ALL Coils a Specific High Temperature Tape (based on Polyimide) that is very thin, the glue is very lite, so whenever you lift it, it does not leave any sticky residues, like majority of tapes do.
And I use this Tape on EACH LAYER of the Coil...after I am done with a Layer, I use this tape to TIGHTEN Wires, besides keeping them, all aligned, as also prevents that next layer of wires go through lower layer.

This Sequential Coils MUST be built EXACTLY the Width size we are limited to keep...in order that ALL fit right (length wise) next to each other's on the Secondary Coil.

So, to just wind one Coil, which have like 8 to 10 Layers, it takes me quite some time.

Next Post I will show a Different View, of the FINAL alignment and Commutator Sequences, that I have displayed before (NOT Related to the TWO Different ways of CONNECTIONS between Commutator and Coils that I have shown previously)

Regards

Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: I also use a NON STICKY SPECIAL HIGH TEMPERATURE PAPER, designed to isolate coils on a Motor or Generator, they have it in different Types, based on Thickness or Material that it is made off, Like the Fiberglass one, now on image, you can see it as the INNER White Tape, that I set FIRST, before starting each coil winding...it serves as the base holding structure for each coil.

Ok, here is a different view of the same diagram I have shown before, where the Brush is running in a linear fashion for better understanding.

This does ONLY relates to the way I connect All Sequential Coils to Commutator on the First Method I have posted before, where I have shown TWO Methods, this one shown here, plus the other one with Diodes.


This Diagram basically shows the brush travel in a Linear Fashion, to see if we have any short circuits, or any "leaks" from one circuit to the other, basically from Oposite Groups.

In dotted grey/dark lines, I have represented the NEXT Sequence of the SAME Coils, on the DESCENDING STAGE ([>4,3,2,1>] for Part N, and [>8,7,6,5>] for Part S) that will take place as we move the brush from Ninety (90º) degrees to 180º for Primary Sequential Group N, and when Brush moves from 270º to 360º on Primary S Sequential Group.


I may keep adding-editing on this post later on...

Regards

Ufopolitics

HI Ufo,

Great work so far.  I like your method of making the coils.  I only have some 21 gauge and 24 gauge wire so am looking for a good source of heavier gauge wire. 

I believe there is a mistake in your last drawing.  Half way between 0 and 180 degrees should be 90 degrees and half way betwen 180 and 360 should be 270 degrees.  Not trying to be picky but trying to help you keep everything accurate.  Feel free to delete this post after you have read it if you want.

Take care,
Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Dec 14, 2023, 02:30 PMHI Ufo,

Great work so far.  I like your method of making the coils.  I only have some 21 gauge and 24 gauge wire so am looking for a good source of heavier gauge wire. 

I believe there is a mistake in your last drawing.  Half way between 0 and 180 degrees should be 90 degrees and half way betwen 180 and 360 should be 270 degrees.  Not trying to be picky but trying to help you keep everything accurate.  Feel free to delete this post after you have read it if you want.

Take care,
Carroll

Great find Citfta!!!

You are absolutely right!!

Many thanks for correcting me...I am not perfect...besides, my brain is "overloaded"...

And no, I will not delete your post.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Ok, I am just using this Post space, in order that next one, would be on top of new page (13)...

I am presenting there the Sub Sequential Coils next...

See you there!!

Ufopolitics

Hello All,


Ok, here I am showing a solution for what have me worried on previous tests that I did with a similar scenario...I will explain below.

On this type of arrangement, where Sequential Coil Groups are based on an ALTERNATED ADJACENT METHOD, there is a slight issue, since Coils from one group alternate with Coils from the other group, there is a GAP between coils of the same group...

I previously built Four similar coils to test this arrangement on another setup with a larger Secondary, (the "Halfway Test" that I have recommended before) the point is, that while I was running it, they were aligned with a gap, using the space that other set would have taken ..and their Output was great...However, when I moved all four coils together, (without the gaps) the Output increased considerably...

I discarded this Method a while back, because of this reason...and stayed with the Overlapped Sequential Coil Group Method. But I want to have a higher number of Turns per coil, actually no limits, PLUS, I want ALL Coils in BOTH Groups to be Symmetrically and Geometrically the same, and the latter method does not allows you to achieve that, you cannot make the First Coil Group too high, otherwise, the Second Coil Group ON TOP, would be farther away from the steel core, hence this outer group will not Excite Secondary as the First Group would, unevenness...not working equally due to this difference in geometrical arrangement.

The big difference in the ALTERNATED ADJACENT METHOD, is that ALL Coils in BOTH GROUPS are EXACTLY of the same Geometry, and size, as BOTH Groups are exactly the same distance from Steel Core, and I can make coils as higher number on Turn/Layers as setup requires. So, here, I thought all I can do, is to keep the GAP between Coils as narrow as possible.

But, I kept "frying my brain" about a way to upgrade this Design, where I could get rid of that "gap"...and finally, I got a solution.

And I am very confident it will work superb!!




I have incorporated the "Sub-Coil Design" for each Group...and actually these sub-coils are just EXTENSIONS of previous Coil on the Sequence.

For example: On this design, the Primary N1 would have a N Sub Coil 1 or, NSC1 that would be wound OVER the Primary S Group, Coil #8, (which is the one closer to Primary N1).
Then, next Sub Coil on Group N, would be N Sub Coil 2 or, NSC2, which would be wound over S Group Coil #7.
Following, next N Sub Coil 3 or NSC3, which would wound on Primary S Group, Coil #6
And that completes the Total Sub Coils Sequence for Group N.

The same procedure applies for Primary S Sequential Group.

Concluding, that each Sequential Group would only need Three (3) Sub-Coils.

Of course, these Sub Coils are made of lesser turns and layers than Sequential Coils, they are just there to BRIDGE/ COMPACT MORE THE MAGNETIC FIELD, by FILLING that EMPTY GAP, where there is no coil, because of the opposite Coil taking its space.

Therefore, the Progressively Expanding or Retracting Magnetic Field, generated by each Sequential Group, would NO LONGER HAVE EMPTY AIR GAPS, that resumes in a weaker Exciting-Inducing Field.

It may look kind of "complicated" but actually it is not...actually putting together this Diagram is much more complicated to achieve, than winding the Real deal!!

And of course, I am going to include a test with and without these Sub Coils (by connecting, disconnecting them), to see the difference.

I am exhausted...but very happy, that I could put together all this info and upload it tonight.

Like I always say, basically for such long posts...I may keep updating this post further on.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: citfta on Dec 14, 2023, 02:30 PMHI Ufo,

Great work so far.  I like your method of making the coils.  I only have some 21 gauge and 24 gauge wire so am looking for a good source of heavier gauge wire. 

Take care,
Carroll

Hello Citfta,

I believe the 21 gauge would be just fine to make your Exciter System.
And if you have enough 21 ga wire, may I suggest making a Test using the same gauge wire (21 ga) for the Secondary Coil(s)...
As a matter of fact, I have put together (in theory-calculation so far) a "Verification Model Test", in order to fully demonstrate that these types of Systems work successfully, for Academic Proof:
Basically, it consists on using the same gauge wire for ALL Coils, Primaries and Secondaries, Plus using the same Total wire length, also, for Primaries and Secondaries.
And, of course, simple, if testing this Verification Model, gives you more Power/Energy on the Output than the Input, it is fully demonstrated then, that it works.

In our case with the Sequential Coils Design, the Total wire length of Secondary would be given by the Total sum of BOTH Sequential Groups. So, first, calculate the Total Length of ONE Sequential Coil, based on a low resistance, like, say 0.5 ohms.

I use this Wire Resistance Calculator (https://cirris.com/wire-resistance-calculator/)

And based on this calculator, for 21 ga, you will need 40 ft to get R= 0.512 (remember to leave extra wire for the connections, like 1 ft for all coils including secondary)

And, if you have a 16 Commutator Elements on your Rotary Switch (like I do) you can put together the Four plus Four Sequence Structure that I have shown lately.

Then, the Total wire required for Secondary would be 320 ft. based on 8 Sequential Coils of length 40 ft or 8X40= 320 ft

The rest is a matter of "Geometry Design" setting your core length plus thickness...in order to fit All Coils there, Secondary plus exciter coils.

Do not get a too thick steel core for this setup, just a one-inch (1") diameter steel rod, would do the job.

On my latest setup (4+4), because I already had the secondary built from 8 years ago... using a 1 1/4-inch rod...and 4 inches long.

About the length of Steel Core, it is conceived in order that you do not make it too short, because it will render a very Thick/ Larger Outer Diameter Secondary...then your outer Exciters would be too far away from steel, and induction will be lower. So, the longer the steel rod, the better.

These types of Generator Systems can be built on ANY Scale...from a very small set to a huge set...depending on the amount of power you will need.

However, for just a Test, a smaller setup is cheaper to build because it requires much less wire and much less time to put it together.

Any questions or doubts, please, let me know here.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Thanks so much for the update.  Lots of good information there.  I hope to get started on this very soon.  Still helping the wife get some things done before Christmas.

Take care and thanks again.
Carroll

Hello to All,

Ok, here is the "Halfway" Video Test that I previously mentioned, that I was going to run first, before I wind the next Four Coils...
Now, some ERRORS that I say on Video...
1: When I am counting commutator connections, I jumped from 1 to 3,4...AND IS 1, 2, 3, 4.
2: It is an AMP PROBE, connected to Channel Two in Blue...and it is set to 100 MilliVolts (not milliamps, like I said)
It is set to 10 mV (it also has a setting for 100mV) and that represents One Amp...



Meaning, I am only running the Eight [8] Sequential Coils Exciter System of Generator, with A Four [4] Coil Sequence.

And below is the same Diagram that I show on this video.


This Test will allow you to check your Magnetic Field displacement through the Steel Core, passing through the Secondary, or Part "y" to generating an Output.

Along with all your coils behavior under the pulsating currents, at different voltages, as all your connections.

The Diodes connection that I showed previously, is what I am using on this test, and it works beautifully!!... ;D 

I am using the NTE576 (400V/5A) , they are super fast switchers and can stand amperages up to 150A (IFSM/Switch Mode), As they have very low resistance and minimal leakage.

Very similar to the UF505 series...

Next I will upload the TEST #2, where I test with a little higher Voltage at Inout, plus add an incandescent 120V to the output...

Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

And here is the same setup than prior video, except than on this video, I am loading Half Excited Generator with an Incandescent Light Bulb of 120v.

Plus, I am rising Input Voltage to 28 Volts...


Enjoy


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

This Post is especially dedicated to ALL Builders out there, who are willing to replicate this setup, please READ CAREFULLY!!

Some IMPORTANT Safety Precautions that should be taken in consideration, when testing this type of Generators, that I have been disclosing here.

1- When conducting the "Halfway Test"...or Half Exciter's of Generator, please do NOT get too excited and exceed the Input Voltages!!

Realize that you are RUNNING AN UNBALANCED SYSTEM, where coils are loose inside steel core, as you increase input voltage too much, these Coils tends to get united as ONE SINGLE COIL, then the Magnetic

Forces increase beyond normal circumstances, plus the vibrations, a big difference when we have a FULL SYSTEM, where the other side Group of Sequential Coils COMPENSATE every time with the other EMP.

This Halfway Test is exactly like running at High Speed a Single-Phase Gen with only one Exciter Coil attached (see image below) where vibration is huge, plus a possible burning of the non-working part of circuit is very likely to occur.

On my two Test Videos previously uploaded, I use first 14V, and then 28v... on a PSU that can go up to 60v and 10 Amps...I could have driven this generator at high speeds with much higher Volts/Amps...

to really impress the viewers by "sensational performance"...PLEASE DO NOT DO IT!!

Besides damaging your commutator contact elements by high arcing, you are Pulsing an EMP, that is NOT BALANCED basically, at it's END PEAK by supposedly another OPPOSED EMP that will definitively absorb it!!



2- When performing a FULL TEST, please, also be very careful with any nearby steel tools, or steel loose supplies, like Bolts, Nuts, Washers or razor blades.

So, put away anything of steel, that can be LOOSE and then attracted SUDDENLY & VIOLENTLY to the STEEL CORE and END PLATES when you are using Higher Input Power.

Also, put away any highly sensitive electronic appliances or Instruments, keep them at certain distance from Field Spatial reach.

Also, be careful with the AC Output Terminals from Secondary, please DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the Power that this System can generate!!

You can get shocked or even killed by the High Amps in AC form at Output...just like touching the AC mains, live and neutral at same time with our hands.

Remember that even One (1) AC Amp can kill a Horse...(said Edison at the War of Currents... ;D )

So, please be safe, take all precautions, before you start adding power to the Input...

I know MANY of You are Highly knowledgeable when it comes on handling high voltage and amperage from AC Mains...however, do not underestimate this setup!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Progress, congratulations!

Can we discuss the rather critical issue of the switch? Other than it having 16 contacts is it a make before break or break before make? If BBM what percentage is off and what percentage on?

Thanks,
Ron

Quote from: ronee on Dec 19, 2023, 12:18 PMProgress, congratulations!

Can we discuss the rather critical issue of the switch? Other than it having 16 contacts is it a make before break or break before make? If BBM what percentage is off and what percentage on?

Thanks,
Ron

Hello Ron, thanks

Yeah, I am not very happy either with only 16 elements, I rather have like 32 or 36...more likely a 36 is perfect, because of what you are mentioning (what % is ON/OFF) 
Like Member Cadman wrote before, doubling the commutators will have a much better timing for the Field to develop properly in eventually all stages, as it Ramps Up (Expanding) and Ramp Down (Contracting).
With 36 elements, I can have 2+2 elements above & below of "brake timing" OFF...or "idle time"...as of right now, there is no time between ON/OFF, actually, because of brush bridging for even a nano sec both elements it sparks (between swap of Sequential Groups)...not much though, now, with the electrolytic cap at the first coils, besides it is preventing from Field to fully Collapse, it reduces sparking a lot.

So, it is a BBM (Brake Before Make) what I want to fully accomplish...the E-Cap will do the job, as "keeping the dipole alive...do not kill it" (Paraphrasing Tom Bearden RIP)

And yes, many times we had this discussion before, about being at "Unison" the movement of Both Fields...as also MBB, but, that did not work out Ron... That was my first test with the first model I built on this second part of getting Figuera back again...connecting it exactly as Figuera had on the 1908 Patent...it does NOT work...Fields somehow cancel...and there is Induction, but poor and nothing like I am showing now.

You and I, and almost everyone involved on this project, knows that the way to go, is by switching with electronics, Banks of FET'S, sequential IC, and the works, a very "elegant" circuit using opto's so the processor does not get fried, etc.

But for now, it is much better to control by a mechanical Rotary switch, while we keep testing basically, the more important thing here...and that is the METHOD of using the Two Fields (per Module) to pump energy out...by Sequentially switched Coils as our Exciter System...

Anyways, stay tuned for next video I am uploading...it is "interesting"...not to say much.

We could discuss it in detail about all these different scenarios, once that I am finished here, I want to show a FULL Exciter System running first, then we can move to a New Topic about Builder's details.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, here I am showing a Test using a "Second Secondary" which is on the outer spatial part of the Moving Fields, it is just basically to demonstrate, we can also obtain Energy
Generation from this area.

Still Generator, is running with only half, of the Exciter System.

I spoke about it a few pages back...and I am uploading an image now, so you can refresh this "previous data"... ;D



So, what I am testing on this video, is Part "y2" on the image above.

Enjoy the video


Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: ronee on Dec 19, 2023, 12:18 PMProgress, congratulations!

Can we discuss the rather critical issue of the switch? Other than it having 16 contacts is it a make before break or break before make? If BBM what percentage is off and what percentage on?

Thanks,
Ron

Hello Ron, again...

I forgot to mention something about what you were referring before.

I am not happy with the way the Sine (if we can call it "a sine" ;D )...it is too sharp, looks more like a spike than a sinewave...I believe the reason of that, is due for having too short of timing ON at commutator for Each Coil on Sequence...at least doubling it with a 32 comm, I believe it will render a smoother wave.

It could be that, or that the brush is too narrow, it barely fully covers the area of just one comm. element...and remember Figuera mentioned "at least brush should be in contact with two elements".

When we have either more contact elements or a wider brush (covering -at least- two elements), each coil would have a longer delay ON, allowing for Field to fully develop...that is what I am basically more concerned. 

Now, before I start making radical changes to controller, which means, taking apart the whole thing...I rather wait until I am finished with the other side, to run a FULL Test...

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Yesterday I was answering to Member Ronee (Ron) the following questions:

1- Is it BBM or MBB?

2- How long is it OFF and how long it is ON?

My answer was somehow wrong, or not clear enough...

Yes, I would like to have BBM, but that would be with another commutator with 36 elements...BUT, NOT on the Setup I am showing now!!

Now I have Make Before Brake (MBB) on the TRANSITION POINTS, when the Brush moves from One Sequential Group to the next Group.

Please see image below:


And on this Diagram I am showing the Brush transitioning points 1 & 2...

1- On Transition Point 1, Brush keeps ON Both Primaries N & S, meaning on this Point, Magnetic Fields on BOTH Primaries are FULLY RETRACTED, all the way to Coil N(1) and Coil S(5).

2- On Transition Point 2, is also the same situation as Point 1, where ONLY N(1) & S(5) are ON, meaning Field is FULLY RETRACTED to these two coils.

That is why (on diagram above) I have the connections to BOTH Coils N(1) & S(5) in thicker/solid lines, while ALL the rest connection lines, are dotted and finer connections (meaning OFF).

Therefore, on BOTH Points 1 & 2, before turning OFF previous Coil behind, it connects to the following Coil, meaning, it is an MBB (Make Before Brake) Transition Type.



1- On Transition Point 1, after brush disconnects from S(5) commutator contact, the N Group will stay ON for the Sequence 1-2-3-[4-4]-3-2-1 ([4-4] = Sine Peak for N) for the travel of Blue Arrow, or for 180º...While the S Group would be OFF for same period of time of 180º shown by Red arrow.

2- On Transition Point 2, after brush disconnects from N(1) commutator contact, the S Group would be ON for the sequence 5-6-7-[8-8]-7-6-5 (where [8-8] = Sine Peak for S)
While the N Group would be OFF for 180º (blue arrow)

Now, if We have a 36 Commutator elements or segments, then, it could be a BBM Transition. As I would have double (2) contacts for each connection plus four for the Peak, and other two above and two below for an idle time where ALL Groups would be OFF when brush pass by.

With a 32 Comm. contacts, it would be MBB ONLY, because there cannot be a four segments/contacts OFF or at idle, but the same that we have with 16 segments, except, we will be doubling contacts.

But, I also want to test a bigger setup, with Two Sequential Groups of Eight Coils...

Now I am testing an MBB set, and if it works fine after Testing, then I would stay on this method for next build.

However, the 36 Segments Commutator is more "flexible" than 32, it can be converted to BOTH Methods, MBB or BBM where with 32 we cannot do that.

So, for next Rotary Switch I will be making it with a 36 segments commutator.

However, all these issues related to the Control Driver plus Connections type for MBB or BBM, I consider them as less priority than actually building a model that performs as we expect, based on the displacement of the Two Fields along secondaries.

And so far we are seeing positive results with this small setup...and it is NOT FULLY finished yet... 8)

I already clean up the bench, and ready for winding next four coils...

Then, we will see how it works out.

Regards

Ufopolitics

On my future tests I will be using -In Line Meters- at loads connection, to measure Amperage, not the Clamp Type.

Clamp type tools, whether the very expensive Tektronix Amp Probes for the Scope or the handheld Amp Clamps, both can give you false readings, as it is based on picking up the Magnetic

Field around conductor within clamp, and that can be altered by a larger Magnetic Field presence, which is our case on this setup.

And of course, during testing we can always insert our Amp Clamps, as far away from Generator as possible, to compare readings with the -in line- meters.

I have to do a full cleanup on my four Extech meters, basically, taking them apart and cleaning the Rotary Select Switch contacts...that is all, and getting four new 9V batteries to be ready

for next FULL Test.

I also have the In-Out Line Digital Meters, that gives you all parameters, that could be added to the circuit as well.


What I am looking for, on this full test, besides Output being larger than Input, is to achieve for the whole Exciter System to become "Self-Maintained".

Meaning that just by starting the Rotary Switch or Controller-Driver, it starts to Generate Energy on the Output.

And this could be done in two ways...

1- Is adding Two Smaller Coils on each Primary Coil, and use the Induced Energy to power the opposite Group, or add them both coils in series and feed Both Groups, passing through a

Rectifier Bridge plus a Cap.

2- What would be the "ideal set", is that when a Sequential Group is OFF and the other Group is "Pumping" the Field for the 180º, that it would Induce the Group that is OFF...

Of course, I have to test if this could be possible. And that is to have one group OFF while running the other Group and reading the Induction spec´s on power generated at the OFF Group.


At this point I have been just "theorizing" about both possibilities for a while, ever since I started this new setup...but, once that I have a Full Setup, it will let me know in real testing where to go from there.

And this is not just a "fantasy" that I am dreaming of...as it happens in EVERY Generator out there, whether a Brushed or Brushless type, it does exactly that...or "Recharge" in every cycle the Inducing or exciter fields.

Have you ever seen a Generator required to be attached to a Battery to start from zero?

Absolutely not, and that is because its Exciter System is self-feed or Self Maintained...so, all you have to do, is to start rotating its shaft...

For example: On this setup, if we keep Coils N(1) + S(5) enclosed within an Electrolytic Capacitor for each (like I have shown before) or an LC Tank Circuit...then, it would not affect the

Performance of the System if they are ON at all times, this would not interfere with the approaching field from opposite direction group.

All we need to do, is to get that Positive from BOTH E-Caps and connect it to Brush...of course, we have to have points above 1 or 2 tested first.

If those two caps readings, increase during operation...then we can achieve it easily.

That is the main test that I am pursuing to make, before checking if OU or not...

This will finally make this System a Self-runner...like Figuera wrote back in 1908..."then we disconnect the external battery, and the Generator will keep running without it"...

At this point in time, with all the development in electronics components that we have now...we do not need even a Battery...just a Cap... or a Super-Cap, that will keep energy stored and

increase as we start Generator Exciter System to "pump both Fields"...


Regards


Ufopolitics

Ok, here is the final video of adding secondaries...this time two end coils at each side of generator...

With same setup, Half Exciter System only.




These Two Coils are wound with 23 gauge wire, each have a resistance of 13.5 Ohms, and according to calculator online, is about 665 ft of wire length, as the two in series, add up to 27 ohms...therefore, the amperage is going to be pretty low...

Still, the main point here, is to prove that we can collect as well from the two ends of the linear Exciting Fields of the generator.

All these Tests, I am planning to repeat them, with exactly the same spec's that we have, as Input Voltage, same loads, caps, connections, etc... BUT, with a FULL Exciting System.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Thank you for the further explanation on the switch. I think that is the way to go, a mechanical switch.
Mosfets or Igbts could be pricy, A 1gw30n65L for example is $5.94 Canadian, 
so for 36 that is $213 plus shipping and tax. 

I wondered what you were going to do with those end coils, great.

I wound a "Y" coil, warts and all, should I start a Ron Build Thread or should I post it on here?

Ron

Quote from: ronee on Dec 20, 2023, 11:21 PMThank you for the further explanation on the switch. I think that is the way to go, a mechanical switch.
Mosfets or Igbts could be pricy, A 1gw30n65L for example is $5.94 Canadian,
so for 36 that is $213 plus shipping and tax.

I wondered what you were going to do with those end coils, great.

I wound a "Y" coil, warts and all, should I start a Ron Build Thread or should I post it on here?

Ron

Hello and Good Morning Ron,

Quote from: ronee on Dec 20, 2023, 11:21 PMThank you for the further explanation on the switch.

Yes, my pleasure, I want everything to be very clear, related to explanations on this build.

Quote from: ronee on Dec 20, 2023, 11:21 PMI think that is the way to go, a mechanical switch. Mosfets or Igbts could be pricy, A 1gw30n65L for example is $5.94 Canadian,
so for 36 that is $213 plus shipping and tax.

Yes, besides, I want to keep Figuera's original design related to this rotary switch, even though we never got to look at the original one, that He ordered to be built in Germany... it can be figured out what it may look like...

It is just like restoring an "Antique Car"...say a 1957 T-Bird Convertible (I love that car)...You do not want to put in there a newer Engine, with computerized sensors and state of the art processors etc...just because you will completely kill the Original Value of that vehicle, when it comes to judge it on a Classic Car Expo... :)

Of course, we can (and we will) go for an "Upgraded-Advanced-Full Solid State Figuera" later on...but as you've said, FET's are expensive, plus I bet we will be blowing a few, before it gets to work properly...

Then I will keep my old buddy, my rotary switch, just like you save under a glass bell, a very well-polished and superb machined parts in brass, of a miniature "Sterling Engine"...

Quote from: ronee on Dec 20, 2023, 11:21 PMI wound a "Y" coil, warts and all, should I start a Ron Build Thread or should I post it on here?

Yes, please, open a New Topic under Builder's Thread at this link: The New Figuera Design Method(s) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/board,7.0.html)

Any problems, let me know.

Thanks much!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello Everyone and Merry Christmas!! (sorry, a little bit late though)

But I can say "Happy New Year"...and I would be "on time"... ;D

Well, here is the Full Video that is already published on You Tube...it explains the BASIC PRINCIPLE of my new development...And actually, it was my idea to do this first, before I started the
whole disclosure...but, situation at OU, made everything "different".

For those that still don't get the main idea...I have made Animated Graphics of this Method of Field Movement, Commutator Contact by Contact...slowly...so it could be stop, go back...read, analyze...and it is based on the simple operation of turning ON/OFF a series of coils in a sequential fashion.



Regards


Ufopolitics
 

Hello,

I am here to help Ufopolitics control this site...

Must of you never heard of me...but I have been involved on these Fields, probably before some of you were born.

Unfortunately, (for you) I do not have the patience that Ufopolitics have...

I will first issue a Warning, and yes, take it as a Fine Courtesy from my end...then erase and delete any annoying, interrupting, out of context posts

...and if Member come back to repeat it:

I will ban their IP Forever...no matter what name they try using next attempt to register.

Is that simple enough?

Ok, let's do it right, People!!...be courteous, gentle, introduce Yourself FIRST, Who You are?...and use ALL kind of FORUM ETIQUETTE as You can.

Then, avoid for me to take these actions.

Respectfully

Lorenzo et Al

Happy new year.
And really nice to see all your new video's.
Can't wait to see the completed setup in action.
Thank you and best wishes.

Happy Holidays to all.

 I am delighted to be allowed to participate. I think Ufo has achieved the most difficult thing and I suppose that what we can contribute are small improvements and collaborate where we can to expand this knowledge to benefit humanity in general. 

As Figuera said, the whole point is to change the state of magnetization of the nuclei so that currents appear in the armature. I have seen the latest UFO videos, and on the oscilloscope, it is seen that when activating the first inductor there is a lot of output due to the induced one, but when connecting the following ones the output decreases. Obviously they are not changing the magnetization state of the core as well as the first inductor. Can we improve that point?

The current that circulates through the coil multiplied by the number of turns gives us the intensity of the magnetic field that we apply and they call it "H Field", however if within that inductor there is a good quality ferromagnetic material, the magnetic field is applied. generated without consuming more energy, the ferromagnetic nucleus gives us a field hundreds of times greater, that free field and which can be hundreds of times greater than the H field, we call it "Field B", well when connecting the first inductor a current through the coil that creates H field and also B field, but when we connect the second one we spend on generating H field but we no longer obtain as much B field because the domains that were oriented with the first coil no longer need to be oriented because they are already looking in the direction of the first inductor. 

Do you think that if every time Ufo switches an inductor after the first, if the core had domains available to orient itself when connecting the rest of the inductors, it would have more output? I think that if each inductor when connected has domains to orient itself, it will offer more output and the output signal when connecting each inductor will be more similar to the first inductor. That reminds me of Figuera who comments that the inductors are a group of true electromagnets, UFO has connected all the electromagnets sequentially on the same nucleus and has achieved superunity, but it applies energy all the time to a nucleus that is increasingly saturated, and if each inductor coil had its own independent core, and the induced coil embraced all of them.

Imagine four nuclei as if they were iron nails, each nail coiled, you make a bundle as if you took a package of spaghetti each coiled, and you coil the induction embracing the four electromagnets at the same time, now when you switch the first electromagnet you have maximum cam H and B in the first nail, and when commuting the second you also have maximum Field H and B because the second inductor hugs a nail that was not magnetized and so on until the last one.

Quote from: emiboom2 on Dec 28, 2023, 03:59 PMHappy Holidays to all.

 I am delighted to be allowed to participate. I think Ufo has achieved the most difficult thing and I suppose that what we can contribute are small improvements and collaborate where we can to expand this knowledge to benefit humanity in general.

As Figuera said, the whole point is to change the state of magnetization of the nuclei so that currents appear in the armature. I have seen the latest UFO videos, and on the oscilloscope, it is seen that when activating the first inductor there is a lot of output due to the induced one, but when connecting the following ones the output decreases. Obviously they are not changing the magnetization state of the core as well as the first inductor. Can we improve that point?

The current that circulates through the coil multiplied by the number of turns gives us the intensity of the magnetic field that we apply and they call it "H Field", however if within that inductor there is a good quality ferromagnetic material, the magnetic field is applied. generated without consuming more energy, the ferromagnetic nucleus gives us a field hundreds of times greater, that free field and which can be hundreds of times greater than the H field, we call it "Field B", well when connecting the first inductor a current through the coil that creates H field and also B field, but when we connect the second one we spend on generating H field but we no longer obtain as much B field because the domains that were oriented with the first coil no longer need to be oriented because they are already looking in the direction of the first inductor.

Do you think that if every time Ufo switches an inductor after the first, if the core had domains available to orient itself when connecting the rest of the inductors, it would have more output? I think that if each inductor when connected has domains to orient itself, it will offer more output and the output signal when connecting each inductor will be more similar to the first inductor. That reminds me of Figuera who comments that the inductors are a group of true electromagnets, UFO has connected all the electromagnets sequentially on the same nucleus and has achieved superunity, but it applies energy all the time to a nucleus that is increasingly saturated, and if each inductor coil had its own independent core, and the induced coil embraced all of them.

Imagine four nuclei as if they were iron nails, each nail coiled, you make a bundle as if you took a package of spaghetti each coiled, and you coil the induction embracing the four electromagnets at the same time, now when you switch the first electromagnet you have maximum cam H and B in the first nail, and when commuting the second you also have maximum Field H and B because the second inductor hugs a nail that was not magnetized and so on until the last one.

Many thanks Emilio,

So, if I understood correctly, you meant that we should have the full steel core cut in pieces according to the number of inductors we have on the Two Groups Sequence...
Other words, in my setup case, I will have to cut in order to make Eight short cylinders, each cylinder the same length of each single sequential coil...right?

And of course, I understood that Secondary still wraps around the 8 steel smaller cylinders...

And does it need any insulation in between cylinders or an Air Gap?, like brass or copper? or just using a brass headless screw to hold together each core be enough?...

I do understand perfectly what you are meaning with above post...excellent idea!!

Actually I was looking for a way to modify the steel core, in order to get even more out of it...and they were much clever designs than just having the center cylinder cut in straight sections.


Thanks Emilio!!

Regards and Happy New 2024!!


Ufopolitics

You haven't understood me because I didn't explain myself well. I put a drawing I hope it can be seen because it is the first time I upload one from my mobile.
As you can see, when activating the first electromagnet it only affects one nucleus, so when activating the second and subsequent ones each one has its independent nucleus.
Perhaps thus switching each inductor to a more even output. But forget it, it is too radical a change and we don't know if it will work.

Quote from: emiboom2 on Dec 29, 2023, 06:24 PMYou haven't understood me because I didn't explain myself well. I put a drawing I hope it can be seen because it is the first time I upload one from my
mobile. As you can see, when activating the first electromagnet it only affects one nucleus, so when activating the second and subsequent ones each one has its independent nucleus.
Perhaps thus switching each inductor to a more even output. But forget it, it is too radical a change and we don't know if it will work.

Hello Emiboom2,

Ok, I see what you meant now...

No, it will not work, simply because you are generating Four (4) independent and much thinner Magnetic Fields at each sequence, plus, this will not have the directional stepping effect (for Magnetic Field) that just one long core with  multiple ring type coils would do in Field Geometry.

With this one, you will be just engrossing / thickening, a Field composed by four spaced apart fields, but not straight sequencing in a forward directional sense...plus other things..like not bridging/aligning fields by their poles, etc, or not creating an amplifying magnetic chain >>N/S/N/S/N/S>>

The Forward Spacetime effect, that I have achieved so far, is a fully linear displacement of just one field (referring to One Sequential Group)...and I have Two Fields on my setup doing the same movement, but oppositely.

Thanks much

Ufopolitics

Edit: By the way, I arranged your image smaller and crop it...plus your text.

Hello Ufo.
I can't resist asking you what everyone wants to know, there is a lot of difference, disregarding the engine consumption, between the input cost and the output cost, if you can provide data please. I would understand if you don't want to answer yet. anyway thanks in advance.
a hug.
Emilio Leal


Pd. Ya no te molesto más y te dejo trabajar, termino de ver que me habías enviado mensajes privados, voy a leerlos que no me había dado cuenta. Ando un poco perdido por la página.

Quote from: emiboom2 on Dec 28, 2023, 03:59 PM.... I have seen the latest UFO videos, and on the oscilloscope, it is seen that when activating the first inductor there is a lot of output due to the induced one, but when connecting the following ones the output decreases. Obviously they are not changing the magnetization state of the core as well as the first inductor. Can we improve that point? ...

Hello emiboom2,

I think the decreasing output is being caused by the wire connection scheme. If you look at each exciting coil as a resistor, the amperage per coil decreases as each coil is added to the input current.
If the coils are wired in parallel, with each coil having it's own negative wire to ground, they are wired as a parallel resistor circuit. If the coils are wired in series then the resistance increases as each coil is added to the input.

The way to make each added coil equal in intensity would be to insure each coil receives the same constant amperage as each additional coil is activated.

BTW, I don't think core saturation is a factor at this time.

Regards
Cadman

Quote from: Cadman on Dec 31, 2023, 11:28 AMHello emiboom2,

I think the decreasing output is being caused by the wire connection scheme. If you look at each exciting coil as a resistor, the amperage per coil decreases as each coil is added to the input current.
If the coils are wired in parallel, with each coil having it's own negative wire to ground, they are wired as a parallel resistor circuit. If the coils are wired in series then the resistance increases as each coil is added to the input.

The way to make each added coil equal in intensity would be to insure each coil receives the same constant amperage as each additional coil is activated.

BTW, I don't think core saturation is a factor at this time.

Regards
Cadman

I agree 100% with above, that is why I came up with the series-parallel circuit, which is working fine so far.

Yes, the ideal way would be that each coil on the sequence receive the same current (amps) on the switching...however, always resistance, for minimal it would be, it keeps adding the more coils we add to sequence.

Now, I have also tested this circuit with all coils in FULL parallel connection, and it works, but induction output decreases...why?

Because, we no longer have a "magnetic trail" behind all the coils which are turned off...so, we are collapsing fields on the trail...and Field only prevails/exists for the last coil turned on.

There are many possibilities here to be tested...but, what we do not want to do, is to collapse field(s) in the middle of the sequencing travel path.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

One more thing to add on my above post...and that I consider as very important!

As we add resistance every time, we add a coil into the sequence...we also add INDUCTANCE to the whole sum of added coils, as we not only are adding turns to the sequence, but we are also adding steel core  mass length, gain.

That is the reason why, I want to keep all coils on sequence with lowest resistance as possible, and as many turns as we can, and that is only obtained by using a higher gauge wire...so the resistance adding is not comparable to the inductance adding, and still, have majority of turns added.

Remember that Inductance is increased, not only by adding more turns, but also by adding more steel mass to coil(s) core being measured.

IMHO, this is the basic "gain system mechanism" here.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I finished yesterday, winding all the rest of the Four Coils...

I made a short video to show the configuration, and the way to install them on secondary...


The BAD NEWS here, is that after setting up and running the way I showed connections on the video (with diodes, all end of coils to negative, all start terminals of coils go to commutator terminals and diodes in between, as shown previously)...

Well, running just "halfway" this connections work great, as you all saw it on video...but once that I hooked all eight coils...Input Amperage ramp up SkyHigh...

Plus, each group when is off, is getting Induced by the other sequence running...of course, induced currents are AC...and this fact, disrupts Induction at Secondary Output.

The Good News...is that it works just fine, with the previous, original Series Connection that I have also shown here...Not as great as when I did just one-half exciter with diodes though...

But the way the coils are set, is the same as shown on video...except that we attach the end of first (N1) with Start of #2...end of #2 attach to Start of Number 3...and so on...the start of N1 attach to negative.

I am showing that image with connections below:


I have to work around a new connection way, that it is not the Parallel type, but it activates the sequence coils more evenly.

I have to make some modifications to the steel core ends, because now all sequential coils are a bit larger than secondary plus core length...

But I will try to get a video running tomorrow...

By the way, the sinewave I am seeing now on Scope Output...looks like an "h"...kind off.



Sorry I have not been that active here, because I have been working on the bench a lot.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello UFOpolitics!
Try to solve the problem, through two coil units working in opposition to the magnetic flux in the core. This is a traditional solution in magnetic systems.
Output / collector windings can be connected in series.
Regards!

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Quote from: Ufopolitics on Jan 03, 2024, 02:59 PMHello,
One more thing to add on my above post...and that I consider as very important!
As we add resistance every time, we add a coil into the sequence...we also add INDUCTANCE to the whole sum of added coils, as we not only are adding turns to the sequence, but we are also adding steel core  mass length, gain.
That is the reason why, I want to keep all coils on sequence with lowest resistance as possible, and as many turns as we can, and that is only obtained by using a higher gauge wire...so the resistance adding is not comparable to the inductance adding, and still, have majority of turns added.
Remember that Inductance is increased, not only by adding more turns, but also by adding more steel mass to coil(s) core being measured.
IMHO, this is the basic "gain system mechanism" here.
Ufopolitics

Hi Ufopolitics,
Relating to the increase of inductance being a "gain system", I agree that both mathematically and in practice, energy can be synthesised and destroyed by synchronous parameter variation. If this path is to be pursued, according to my understanding, inductance  needs to decrease over time (per cycle) to create/cohere energy and likewise energy will be destroyed if inductance increases over time in relation to a cycle.
In simple terms, a coil needs to have some current flowing in it, then have its inductance reduced before the current stops flowing. Then it will release more energy than it took to make initial current flow. How to do this without spending the same amount of energy to change the inductance? I don't know!
 I have tried to get OU with mag amp topologies and I saw energy being "created and destroyed" in the output windings but also in the bias windings of the mag amp, and energy was always conserved, even though no "induction" was taking place.
There is a thread at energetic forum which went nowhere but contains mathematical formulas for parametric excitation.
Link is here if anyone interested.

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/5980-parametric-excitation

Please delete this post of it is distracting the thread.
Wishing you success in your experiments!
Kind regards, Sandy[/quote]

Hello to All,

The main issue that I am basically talking about, is related to:

Sequential Coil Groups are constantly Self Inducing each other's at each OFF stage.

It does not matter what connection we use...Diodes-Series-Parallel or if they are connected in Full Series with only one negative for each group.

This is an Induction issue, that we can make it to work in our advantage...And actually, I wrote about this before, it was expected it happened this way.

The Output in AC can easily be converted to DC through a simple bridge rectifier, an AC Cap and an Electrolytic Cap...

A simple test which I plan to make a video of...is to disconnect one Sequential Group from Positive Brush Excitement...and attach it to this circuit above...and read its output in DC through a meter...while the other Sequential Exciter is running.

Then we will see the Output that other Sequential Coil is generating into the second one.

This is the point, where we can make each sequential group to self-feed each other's, without the need to use an External Supply Power, and just by start to move Magnetic Field through motor-brush-commutator, we will get an Induction in Output(s)

Without the need to add a Second Secondary to do that (feed the exciter system)...

The AC Generated and converted to DC at each Sequential Coil Group, is larger than Input DC Supply...and the more we increase speed of Fields...the more power we get.

This part to me, is more important, than to start now measuring Raw Input versus Raw Output.

@rakarskiy: Thanks, and I know that adding more Figuera Modules will help as well...but we need to solve issue first in one (1) module.

@Sandy: Thanks, and I will take a look at Parametric Induction, Capacitance ...it seems very interesting. And you are right about Currents versus Inductance as well. And no, I will not delete your post, it contains very useful info.


Thanks to All

Regards

Ufopolitics

Ok, here is a video where I show the Fluctuations taking place on the Sequential Groups...



And on video below, I am conducting the Test I previously mentioned...about reading the AC Induction on a Sequential Group that is FULLY Disconnected from Positive Brush switching, plus also disconnected from Negative Input...

Video came out wrong...I had to redo it...sorry!!


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello UFOpolitics!
If you are seeing the effect I was thinking of, I recommend adding a 10nF and 501-1000ohm RC chain to each coil.
Maybe I know what you're going through. I've labelled this effect as, - parametric operation of inductances (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/11/blog-post.html);
Not to be intrusive, just as thoughts. 

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Hello to All!!

Ok, GOOD NEWS!!...a much better way to run sequences at connections.

I have found a SOLUTION to compensate the Magnetic Field Traveling path, by setting END Coils on both groups, #4 & #8, in Parallel on the Series Sequencing.
By having these two end coils, getting full power, without adding the resistance from the rest of the coils in the groups, they act as "Impact" coils, catalyzing and rush-forcing generated fields on Primaries to the end path of the Secondary and steel core.
Results on Output readout is much better now than previous tests.

So, here is the new connection Diagram:


The change is quite simple, all it takes is to swap a couple of connections...but it generates a much better result.

I have been going over this for the last couple of days...after the frustration that diodes in parallel connection gave me on the Full Exciter System Test.

However, if Electrical Generation wants to play "hardball"...then I will play it that way... 8)

By having these Two End Coils at the end of each sequence, it SUCKS/FORCES/RUSH the Generated Fields at Primaries to the end travel...and this just happens in milliseconds...however, that is enough for a Strong Displacement taking place.

I uploaded a video on this test, plus the full explanation on connections details in next post.

Note: When I started filming the test on video, the Rotary switch was having bad contacts at higher speed...so, I had to take it apart, replace brush-springs (I did not replace them for the past 8 years ago...) plus cleaned commutator and now it is running like brand new.

I run a video while I had it apart to upload it on my Topic related to commutator switching, later on.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I had some issues trying to edit the two runs that I did, before and after brush and spring replacement on rotary switch...I wanted to add all runs in one video...but did not go right, so I deleted original take and now it is split in the two separate runs.

So, here are the two tests videos, PART 1 is a more explanatory related to the way I am doing it right now...and PART 2 is just the run and a final conclusion on N1 & S5 that we need to modify in order to get lesser Input Amps and more Voltage...

PART 1 EXPLANATION PLUS TEST RUN 1


PART 2 TEST RUN 2


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

It has been a long day...testing and drawing CAD's...First, I had a Test planned with the same four coils as it was the Halfway Test, but, I wanted to try using a full cycle...and Diodes Parallel connections, same as prior halfway.

It should work fine right? So, I did first the Diagram, because I planned to use also Four more Coils as feeders for the Four Coils as Exciters...

Image below:



Well, all hopes plus thoughts was that it would work just fine...I was not adding any additional four coils...so Input Amperage should even be lower than half test...

But NO, IT DID NOT WORK, after hooking everything...Amps ramp up SkyHigh again!!

And I already had the setup wires running from commutator as double soldered for the crossing pattern...then I started testing another pattern, which uses similar approach...except that it is an Asymmetrical Pattern.

After hours testing, I finally came up with a way to pulse coils which was very promising...here is the video...tomorrow I am on a work call, so, maybe later on the day or Saturday I will show a specific Diagram for this type of Asymmetrical Pattern...plus another test run.

Here is a fast video I took, just for you to take a look at its response, so far I like it better than sequential testing's...

And please, don't take me wrong, I am NOT planning to disregard ANY of ALL the PREVIOUS tests that I have Conducted so far...as I consider each different Test configuration is Designed to fit different Systems and parameters..


EDIT 1: I forgot to say that what I find on these type of pulsing is a more DENSE ENERGY GENERATION, and you can tell easily, because at very, extremely low pulsing, the bulb does NOT starts to do the blinking, while dimming, like it did on previous pulses configurations.

Regards

Ufopolitics

WOW!  A very interesting video.  I am going to have to watch it a couple of more times to get it all.  But the results are looking great! 

I am wondering why you are using a solid iron core instead of a laminated or a ferrite core?  Won't you have problems in a continual run with heating of the core from eddy currents?

Great video.

Regards,
Carroll

cleaned

Quote from: citfta on Jan 12, 2024, 07:41 AMWOW!  A very interesting video.  I am going to have to watch it a couple of more times to get it all.  But the results are looking great! 

I am wondering why you are using a solid iron core instead of a laminated or a ferrite core?  Won't you have problems in a continual run with heating of the core from eddy currents?

Great video.

Regards,
Carroll

Hi Carroll,

Ferrite core may not perform well at such low frequencies but laminated core may be worth trying.

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Hello to All,

On the following posts, I will be making a Deeper Analysis* of this New Exciters Asymmetrical Pulses...that will include Lab Testing and all possibilities to expand this method.

* I am sure, for some, it would be a learning experience that you did not learn about Magnetic Fields on School...

Unless you have read Ken Wheeler's book, by now, or have seen all my research on Magnetic Fields Videos... ;D

Ok, first I will start by the simple fact that ALL Magnetic Fields (ALL, including Permanent Magnets and Electromagnets, which includes Solenoids, Generators, Motors, Induction Coils, etc,etc)

All Magnetic Fields have, what some may know by "Bloch Wall", thanks to Scientist Felix Bloch, who discovered a while ago...

Ken Wheeler calls them "Dielectric Field" and "Counter Spatial Plane...as He considers that is the plane/field, from where Fields merge and return.

This is no fiction, anyone could see this exactly center dividing line clearly with Magnetic Viewing Film...or a Ferrocell, Patented by my friend Tim Vanderelli...

Or a Cathode Ray Tube (CRT)...

Anyways, deeper info about this is out there, including the read on free e-book on this site, by Ken Wheeler.

Point is, that whenever you turn ON a Coil...at is DEAD CENTER, exists this Bloch Plane...AND, as soon as you turn it OFF it "goes away"...along with the Magnetic Field.

Second, whenever you turn ON, TWO Coils in Proximity of its Spatial Magnetic Field, IN ATTRACTION, but not touching each other's, or with a Spatial Gap in between...it "forms" a THIRD SPATIAL Bloch Plane, exactly in between Both Fields...Yes, in the air.

So, I want you to visualize all this, with following image:


So, every time you turn ON that switch, Bloch Planes are originated as shown by a Green Line on image.

1- We have all Coils having a Center dividing green line, PLUS...

2-The Spatial Bloch Planes originated in between each Coil IN AN ATTRACTION CHAIN ONLY during the TIME THEY ARE ON.

3-And more IMPORTANT to know here is, that the FURTHER AWAY that each Coils is...or the bigger that Spatial Gap be...it starts to "weaken" this SPATIALLY Bloch Plane.

Until, if Fields keep separating, it disappears/vanishes completely.

Of course, some commonsense here, it also depends on the STRENGTH of the Field...in order to weaken only at certain distances.

Now comes the "details" when we start complicating the "switching scenarios"...

Whenever you -in a very short period of time- Turn ON and then OFF and then turn ON another Coil which is either closer or further away from another one still ON...within its Spatial proximity...these Bloch Planes tends to travel in space to the newly formed one...and I will explain this further on, when we go to the specifics on Asymmetric Pulses for our Exciter's Systems.

To be continued...

Ufopolitics

Just in case, please note this point   Helmholtz coil - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_coil)

The coils can be more than two, switched on in parallel or in series, or as UFOpolics one by one in series, the principle of magnetic field will be the same.

Sorry for the post, I think - that this point should not be missed.

Quote from: rakarskiy on Jan 13, 2024, 04:23 AMJust in case, please note this point  Helmholtz coil - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_coil)

The coils can be more than two, switched on in parallel or in series, or as UFOpolics one by one in series, the principle of magnetic field will be the same.

Sorry for the post, I think - that this point should not be missed.

Hello Rakarskiy!!

Many thanks for that contribution!!

Many great math analysis there, as also when varying distance "h" to a larger value (given the normal as radius (r) equal to h) it "worsens" the Field uniformity...

However, when we add a center longitudinal steel core, like we are doing here (and which is not part of a Helmholtz Pair) the Field takes a different configuration than with a hollow (air) core, besides it strengthens much more.

Thanks

Ufopolitics 

Hello to All,

I have removed all data related input on "Asymmetric Pulses"...since I was only pulsing All Coils at certain timing...But Input Amperage was high. (thanks Greg for finding it)

So, it is a "No Go" deal, even whenever I accelerated amps went down, some, and Output up, a bit, but still not enough...and this is not what we are looking for.

If we find a better Sequence, even differing from Figuera, fine, we will go for it, if it gets great results...if not, we will discard it...and go back to Figuera.

We can pulse 2 Coils in parallel, in a Sequence between 4 or more coils, always following a Sequence.

And it is simple in Magnetism Terms, We need to either Expand and Shrink, or Displace from point A to point B the Magnetic Fields, at LOW COST on Input and greater results on Output.

Thanks

Ufopolitics

Hello Ufopolitics, An extension on the design of the unit R. If you look closely at the connections from the commutator from connections #1 and #8 you will see that as #1 wire connects to the far left at the lower edge of the BOX' and the #8 wire connects to the FAR side of the box. I interpret that to mean that ALL contacts on the lower part that have wires connected are north coils wound CCW and the wires of the FAR side are south coils and are wound CW.

SINCE they are pairs and are fed current from OPPOSITE ends, they are wound TOGETHER  as a CCW spiral on the steel core and then charged from OPPOSITE ends making the reverse current flow CW. ANOTHER one of those situations that Figuera did not draw the details for is the S pole connections of the commutator. If we count over 3 Vs of the squiggly zigzag coils in unit R, and fold the paper in half, so that both sets of 3Vs are of top of each other and crease the paper. Now unfold it and the right side if the crease is S pole coils and the left of the crease are the N pole coils. Now AT the crease there is one squiggly line that is cut in half by the fold. This is the RELUCTANCE flux that remains AFTER the last current from the commutator flows at contacts #8 and#16. HOW to get this reluctance flux over to the START of the opposite pole without SPARKING in the commutator is STILL a question to be researched. I hope this adds some clarity there. Thanks GreyWolf47

A little more on that thought.
_____________________________________
Hawkins Electrical Guide, which was written by Nehemiah Hawkins and published in 1914 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkins_Electrical_Guide).
Hawkins Electrical Guide - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkins_Electrical_Guide)

This book was designed to explain the complex principles of the new technology of electricity in a way that could be understood by the average person. The book contains many detailed illustrations, and most of the illustrative content became the basis for decades of subsequent books published under the Audels brand. The illustrative content of those books can still be found in new Audels books sold today.

I was personally interested in another illustration of a cross-section of electric machines from Figuer's time:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/16/Gramme_Ring_-_Four_Pole_Stator_Field_Flow.jpg/250px-Gramme_Ring_-_Four_Pole_Stator_Field_Flow.jpg)
I can just see a cross-section of the magnetic system of a 1902 Figuera generator.
In that 1902 patent, all the details of the phase inductor (in red) were hidden, the method of excitation of the electrical circuit was not described. 

Hello to All,

I am planning to make a Test with 4 sets of Coils, meaning winding each set with bifilar (double wiring) as GreyWolf47 suggested...and see what happens.

That would give me a total of 16 terminals (4 per set) 8 going to negative and 8 to commutator...so, I will use double comm. contacts per wire, except at intersection points (2) between N&S Polarities.

Now, do not "hold your breath" waiting for this test to happen any soon, as I am on a job call...for the next three days, so, only have time to watch and post some replies...

I am going to do them with 20 gauge wire, instead of 18...I do not want to take apart all coils that I have wound so far...for further experimenting.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello Ufopolitics,

I am winding my replication of your design as we speak. I have a 8 inch long by 1 inch diameter steel bar that I am winding a 6 inch long secondary coil of 16 ga. wire for 1500 turns. I will wind the first layer of primaries 5 inches wide centered on the secondary wound with 2 wires parallel as we spoke about for 46 turns N and 46 turns S for a total of 92 turns of 16 gage wire also. Then the second layer wound on top of that with 2 layers for a total of 92 turns N and 92 turns S. Then the third layer with 184 turns N and 184 turns S. This will give me a good coil to test for that pesky RELUCTANCE when it changes from N coils to S coils.. Be safe at your work and return to us soon. GreyWolf47

Quote from: GreyWolf47 on Jan 15, 2024, 05:20 PMThe reluctance is the electron's enertia or the tendency to continue to flow even AFTER the current has stopped. This has to be dealt with, or there will be back electrical sparking in the commutator brush contacts. This is an area of research and discovery that is still to be completed.

It's obvious that this is happening at a high frequency. For example, The Electrodyne corporation that tested the Tesla switch device (which also works on the principle of inertia of electrical particles) noted that the effect begins to appear when the switch is turned on and off at least 100 times per second (100 hertz) and when the frequency reaches 800 hertz, the effect becomes even dangerous.
This effect is real and appears, IMHO, when any electrical circuit is turned on - at the very first moment, for a short period, the starting current in the circuit is always several times greater than normal. This is why old incandescent lamps always burn out exactly at the moment they are turned on. That is why, both in gas dynamics and hydrodynamics, it is always more profitable and energy efficient when the working fluid pulsates. Old Soviet scientific studies from the 1970s showed a 240% increase in airflow when the airflow was pulsated.
This is why I think that pulsation and its frequency are the key to obtaining OU

Quote from: GreyWolf47 on Jan 17, 2024, 09:23 AMUfopolitics and other builders:

Good morning to ALL!

A few more thoughts on the test coil I made. The flux in the iron rod core STILL has to change direction 120 times per second at 60 Hz. I believe that the reason that with only the 12v DC power supply the 60 watt light bulb was very dim and flickering at very slow commutator rpm was showing the actual flipping of DIRECTION of the magnetic flux field in the iron core and the flicker happens at the time that the flux STOPS going in one direction and reverses to go the OTHER way. AT HIGH rpm, this goes away.

However, at high rpm on the commutator the direction change causes a limit to the CURRENT FLOW so that after about 500 rpm the light bulb has reached MAXIMUM brightness. Increasing the rpm actually henders the process and the bulb ACTUALLY dims just a bit. Even though the voltmeter shows higher voltage with increased rpm, the AMPERAGE is NOT increasing.

Just more food for thought!

We're GETTING THERE!
Greywolf47

Good morning GreyWolf47!

Related to the Bulb dimming a bit, after Full brightness, whenever you go over 500 RPM's...

Have you measured the Amperage drop from battery (Input) whenever you accelerate beyond 500?

This happened to me on the PSU...when I accelerated beyond certain point, amps started dropping, and whenever they drop too much, then bulb starts to decay a bit in brightness...even though you are gaining in voltage with higher RPM's.

However, all this things would be "history", once that we would be able to self-sustain the exciter system...it would then be real infinite energy flow...to the point we will need to set a Regulator for that purpose (like Generators have an AVR)...not to go "overboard" or system will burn itself out.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone!!

Ok,

Here I will show TWO SIMPLE VIDEOS.

Now, Commutator NO LONGER HAVE THE JUMPERS (as per GreyWolf47 suggestion) That means we will only be FLASHING FIELDS ONE WAY (NO RETURN) then Fields Collapse, and that is for BOTH VIDEOS.

PLUS REMEMBER: ALL MY COILS ARE WOUND EXACTLY THE SAME WAY!!, that goes for Blue and Red Sequence Coils.


1- FIRST VIDEO:

Using the same configuration than ORIGINALLY I have disclosed on ALL my Videos here. And that was to hook to COMMUTATOR only the START TERMINALS for ALL COILS. while ALL ENDS go to NEGATIVE.

That means that I am FACING SAME POLARITIES POLES FACING EACH OTHERS...or N>>><<<N or S>>><<<S ...it really don't matter!!



2- SECOND VIDEO:

On this video, is the same setup, except that here I am SWAPPING ONLY THE RED GROUP TERMINALS, meaning, that START TERMINALS that were POSITIVE SEQUENCE from Commutator, are ALL connected to NEGATIVE, and ALL NEGATIVE on previous FIRST VIDEO, now go to the POSITIVE SEQUENCE from Commutator without jumpers.

What I have done is to have OPPOSITE POLARITIES POLES FACING EACH OTHERS, meaning N>>><<<S


Can you ALL see the HUGE difference, by just swapping eight terminals??!!


Thanks for watching!!!


Ufopolitics

my electromotor engineer says that in his opinion it is not possible to generate real power with a simple steel pipe in the core.
He thinks we need a core of dynamo metal sheets for that. What do you think ?
He is a very experienced long time motor constructor.

Quote from: skybiker63 on Jan 21, 2024, 10:56 AMmy electromotor engineer says that in his opinion it is not possible to generate real power with a simple steel pipe in the core.
He thinks we need a core of dynamo metal sheets for that. What do you think ?
He is a very experienced long time motor constructor.

Hello Skybiker63,

Your Electromotor Engineer is kind of "exaggerating" a little bit, about his opinion of "not being possible to generate real power" because of using a solid steel core, instead of laminated iron sheets.

All the difference between solid and laminated iron cores, is to reduce, the parasite currents also known as "Eddy Currents"...which are still generated on laminated steel...we are just reducing, and aligning these parasitic currents to predominate in the "in-betweens" of the laminations.

These Eddy Currents are never higher than the Currents Generated by the Exciter System...

One very old and up to know existing proof of this wrong concept, is the Claw Rotor (Exciter System) from any vehicle Alternator out there...is made of two pieces of Solid Iron...and it can produce up to 200 Amps...and more.

LUNDELL_ALTERNATOR_SOLID_STEEL_ROTOR.jpg

When we get an Over Unity Device...these "eddy currents" are really not to worry about...However, if we get laminated steel, of course it will improve the whole system in a small percentage though.

Thanks for your question.

Regards

Ufopolitics

So, above is a simple Diagram of what My Method of Figuera Generator is, to be Replicated on this Website and Builder's Group...or anywhere you want...this an Open Source Project!!

The Coils Sequence is simple: [N>1, 2, 3...n>]<>[<n...3, 2, 1<S] and "n" means that you can use as many coils in your sequence as you desire...and that would depend on your switching controller capabilities...,

Now, I understand that you may vary some of the components above and is totally about your desire and will.

HOWEVER, THE BASIC DESIGN ON THE SEQUENTIAL EXCITER COILS GROUPS, SET IN A SPACETIME LONGITUDINAL WAY, THAT PART, IS NOT TO BE CHANGED BY ANY MEANS!!

THESE SEQUENTIAL COILS, ARE IN CHARGE TO EXPAND AND RETRACT THE MAGNETIC FIELD(S) LONGITUDINALLY ALONG THE MAIN, CENTER STEEL CORE.

Now, how you build these sequential coils, is totally up to you...you can make them in a bifilar configuration, or individually for each coil...just make sure polarities are correct!! I have repeated here to exhaustion, that N<>S DOES NOT WORK!!...So, use your judgement call, use tools to know field direction, Polarization, etc,etc

What wire gauge you use?...that is totally up to you, and your expertise on these fields...

On the image I have shown ALL Possible Secondaries that you may apply on your setup, Now, if you do all secondaries with same gauge, then, you could add them in series to obtain a single Output.

Or you can make ALL Type of Combinations there...as just use the Side Secondaries (y3 & y4) for specific purposes...or the Inner (y1) and Outer (y2) with same gauge to be connected in series to obtain a single output...whatever way you like.

Or just start by using only the inner center secondary (y1) as the First one for your Output testing's...

About the Steel Core Geometry and Material? that is also up to you as well, this Method could be built in almost any geometrical Extrusion form, like Square, Rectangular, Round, Elliptical, etc.

It could be Solid Steel or Laminated Steel (better)

The Outer Steel Plates are just to Amplify Output gain, and Compress/Support All Coils together, attached by a single bolt to center core.

I BELIEVE MY DRAWINGS, MY VIDEOS, ARE VERY CLEAR, NEAT, CLEAN, CAD GENERATED IMAGES, SO, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO INTERPRET THEM PROPERLY, AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A "GENIUS" TO UNDERSTAND THEM!!


And now I have to bring up, a specific incident, about a Builder Member here (GreyWolf47), saying he was "replicating" my method*...and then he built a completely different setup than mine, where sequential coils were just "PILED UP, ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER"...to form some kind of "amorphous mass" of copper wires, that DID NOT FOLLOWED THE LONGITUDINAL, PROGRESSIVE TIME SEQUENCING, THAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWING HERE SINCE DAY ONE!!!

THAT WAS NOT MY REPLICATING METHOD!!

Now, the reason why He decided to build his setup that way, hits me...and I am not going to start "speculating" about that...

But I brought this incident now, to explain why I have removed ALL of his Posts, related to His Concept, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I have presenting here from day one that I created this Website.

So, I simply remove them all from this Topic, Mainly, NOT to confuse My True Replicating Members and Builder's here replicating my True Method, or anyone following My Topic here!!

All his Posts were not deleted, But Transferred in an Orderly manner, to His Builder's Topic, along with all his Videos and Images...

I believe I owed You all, an explanation for that incident here, on this specific Topic.

I love all things clear, blunt, and up front!!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All!!

What a beautiful day!!

I just came back from a Time Travel trip, I made back to the "DC Dynamo's era" from the 19th Century...thanks to old books that are still available, and they are very well written, illustrated and clear explanations...

The thing is simple...You WILL NEVER, EVER, understand Figuera's explanations, diagrams, etc..no matter if you speak his Native language, no matter how much you know about actual, modern electricity...if You do not make that trip to the past...over 100 years back!!

And so, now I understand Figuera's way...perfectly well!!

When Figuera refers to "las Espiras del Inducido" (Induced Spirals)...first thing that comes to our minds, is the Induced coils that are located ON THE STATOR, that are on any typical AC Generator, or Alternator...right?

Well NO!!...In a DC Dynamo, from the 1800's to earlier 1900's...the Induced coils were the ones on the Rotor Armature!!

When this Rotor Armature turned, rotated, they "cut" the lines of force between the N-S EXCITER FIELDS on the Stator...so these terms swapped entirely related to an AC Generator, 180º!!

On any typical, common, AC Generator or even an Alternator from the 1960's up to now...the "Exciter System" is its Armature-Rotor!!...and the "Induced" are located on Stator, Static...

So, this is it people...such a silly confusion of terms...prevent us from making the perfect Figuera for over 115 years.

Please do not worry, still "My Method" prevails, just will have some magnetic chains arrangement changes...

In other words...that "R Box" Figuera wrote on his patent...were not referring to "resistors box"...BUT to the "Rotor Box" where the "induced spirals" are located...the Rotary Coils, now- after Figuera's Matrix Decomposing a DC Dynamo from those times...

I have to put together some graphics...as explaining details...as of now I am doing a lot of testing on this setup.

Regards to All!!


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

I want to clarify that the method #2, I have started to explain on previous Post#114, and that I will keep working on as of today...is based ALSO on THE MAIN STRUCTURAL CONCEPT, that I have disclosed here at the beginning of this Topic:



As well as on my Two YouTube Videos in English and Spanish...

The only changes are:

1-That, it is Connected from Induced Spirals in the R Box to Commutator, exactly as Figuera has displayed on his Patent back in 1908.

2- The Magnetic Arrangement is now: N/S-N/S-N/S for Stator Fields (Primaries) as well as Induced Spirals (ring coils)

3- Induced Spirals have the same Geometrical shape (as ring coils) as of previous Method #1

This Method #2 is still being under testing...I have not finished it yet, as I have to make new seven ring coils, with higher resistance and finer wire (23 gauge) than previous coils...

But, so far, it is the same way that Figuera proposed to be done on patent...so far the preliminary tests I have conducted, are very promising, the Input Amperage is reduced considerably, while the Output Sinewave is a clean, typical, smooth AC Sine...very light sparks on commutator/brush, like running a smooth dc motor...according to the same movement that is on the Figuera Original Sequence, the same jumpers on commutator.

I am very happy with this new method so far, mainly because it adheres exactly as Figuera Patent was...let's see how it develops.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, as I have promised, here is the Diagram for Method 2 (I have not been posting that much because I am still winding the 7 coil rings, to make a test video)

The wiring connections here, are identical to the way Figuera shows on his 1908 Patent, except for the "R Box" which He have it separated from N-y-S Coils.

And finally, I get to have a full view of what he meant, when he separated that R Box from the rest of the other coils (primaries plus secondaries)

It simply means that the R Box connections and it's coils, go to each individual N-y-S Single Module (On Patent there are Seven (7) of these Modules).

Therefore, what you are seeing on the image above, is just ONE MODULE of the [N-R-Y-S] assembly...However, only One Rotary Switch (Commutator and Brush), would be required to run all Seven Modules.

Now, how do we connect the Seven (7) R Boxes to one commutator?...It could be in Parallel or in Series?, 

and the "logical" answer would be in Parallel, because Inductive Resistance would be reduced considerably...And based on the following details you will understand why:

First, if you all notice, I have only Seven (7) Ring Coils (purple color, numbered from 1 to 7)

Second, the Two Primary Coils (N & S) will be ON at all times during operation of the Generator Machine, therefore, they should be wound with very fine gauge wire, and many turns.

The Coils I am using for Primaries, I already had them built about six years ago...and are 23 gauge, resistance is around 12.5 Ohms each (Hot are 15.5 ohms)

Now, the Ring Coils are wound with the SAME Gauge as Primaries, BUT, with much less resistance. (the rings I am building now are 23 gauge and around 3.2 Ohms each)


These Ring Coils are just "floating extensions" of the Two Primaries, and depending on Brush positioning, the Primary Fields will fluctuate.

However, on this Method #2, neither Primaries, nor ALL the Ring Coils, would NEVER TURN OFF...So Fields will never collapse...they will just fluctuate, meaning, EXPAND or RETRACT.

1- When Brush is at Contact #1 Primary N Magnetic Field would be retracted to it's own Coil (not expanded by any ring coils) While Primary S Magnetic Field would be at Max expansion.

2- When Brush is at Contact #8 Primary S Magnetic Field would be retracted to it's own Coil size, and Primary N Field would be at Max expansion.

3- Secondary y, is here as the rectangle in light yellow, and it expands all the way of the Seven (7) Ring Coils length. (it is positioned similar as it was on Method # 1, except, that now it does not go under N1 and S1.

This movement of both Fields will cause a perfect AC Output Sinewave on Secondary y.

4- The Magnetic Orientation for Both Primaries and All Ring Coils is a perfect Attraction Chain or:  (PN) N/S-[1N/S-2N/S-3N/S-4N/S-5N/S-6N/S-7N/S]-N/S (PS)

Therefore, the connections of the Ring Coils are End of First Coil with Start of next coil on the sequence and derives to commutator sequence number as shown on image...


On this setup, due to its higher resistance, we can drive it with higher voltages, and it will consume much less amperage, however, the magnetic field would have a very high strength!!

As we increase the speed of our switching device, and we add some power to system, the Ring coils will start to "fill up" Primaries at both ends... the same as if we rotate an armature on a Dynamo from the late 1800's...

A special note about building the ring coils with the "Bifilar wires" on this Method: I do NOT recommend them... Because of following disadvantages:

1- These Method Sequencing is NOT About-Facing SAME POLARITY FIELDS, as in prior Method #1, therefore, there is no need to set one end positive as another negative...

2-There is an ODD Number of Ring Coils (7)

3- You will be reducing the length of your secondary.

4- Your Field "Space-Time Jumps" will be much shorter.

EDIT 1: BIFILAR TYPE FOR RING COILS WILL NOT WORK HERE AT ALL, since you will just be reducing the FLUCTUATION SPACE TRAVEL OF FIELD. CAUSING Output to REDUCE.


NOTE: I would be editing a lot this post, as it have too much info here...and I may keep adding important points to it.

Regards

Ufopolitics

  No Diodes, no caps?, i love the simplicity of this design UFO, just need to catch up on some farm work and will get started.

 Warm Regards  Cornboy.      :)  

Quote from: Cornboy on Jan 26, 2024, 10:14 PMNo Diodes, no caps?, i love the simplicity of this design UFO, just need to catch up on some farm work and will get started.

 Warm Regards  Cornboy.      :) 

Great to know you like it Cornboy!!

Warm regards

Ufopolitics

Hello from France UFOPOLITIC
I thank you for all this rediscovery of this patent and the transmission of this information from the static generator that you shared.
I am ready to build this system by calculating the length of the windings using their resistance which you mention.
for me as soon as a prototype works I continue to build three to have the three-phase with 3 distributors offset by 120 degrees.
A question regarding the magnetic core:
compared to the Figuera patent it is in three end-to-end parts with fine insulation and in your drawing it is in one piece,
What is the best solution?
THANKS
(I use Google to help me translate)
Is it possible to participate in the manufacturers group?

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AMHello from France UFOPOLITIC
I thank you for all this rediscovery of this patent and the transmission of this information from the static generator that you shared.

Bonjour Monsieur!!
Comment vas-tu?
C'est un plaisir

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AMI am ready to build this system by calculating the length of the windings using their resistance which you mention.
for me as soon as a prototype works I continue to build three to have the three-phase with 3 distributors offset by 120 degrees.

That is a GREAT idea!!...yes, we can also have a "three phase brush-commutator rotary switch" on the same unit...

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AMA question regarding the magnetic core:
compared to the Figuera patent it is in three end-to-end parts with fine insulation and in your drawing it is in one piece,
What is the best solution?

We are still developing the cores for what is best, however, we need a perfectly running system first, before we start developing the best core...
But for best results we know that laminated steel would work much better than a solid steel core, in order to reduce eddy or parasitic currents.
Have in mind that this System does not moves physically, so, there is no need for "air gaps".
Also, the ideal core would be one that we can take it apart, (disassemble) to fix a specific coil that is shorted or burnt...or have access to the wiring connections.

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AMTHANKS

De rien!

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AM(I use Google to help me translate)

Google fait du bon travail, Ah?

Quote from: bigeasy on Jan 27, 2024, 07:39 AMIs it possible to participate in the manufacturers group?

You are on the Builder's Group, welcome!

Bienvenu au Groupe des Bâtisseurs!

Cordialement

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, first let's start by positioning Brush at contact #1...on image above.

On this precise point in time, the red Field S, ends its full expanding cycle, as N Field starts its process on its cycle.

Meaning that on contact #1 N Field is fully retracted to its Primary Coil dimension (always have in mind that magnetic fields expands spatially, beyond Coil-Core Physical Mass)

* However, (and this is the part I am still not happy with, and I will comment below on EDIT 1) here, N Field Coil is receiving FULL CURRENT, as HIGHER INDUCTANCE, as the LOWEST INDUCTANCE RESISTANCE, simply because NO SEQUENCE Coils-Rings are ON its SIDE connections, DICTATED by the Brush positioning.






Now, on above image, Brush is at Contact #8.

On this point in time, Blue Field "N" is finishing its expansion cycle, as Red Field S, just starts its cycle.

Meaning that on contact #8 S Field is fully retracted to its Primary Coil dimension.

* However, (and this is the part I am still not happy with, and I will comment below on EDIT 1) here, S Field Coil is receiving FULL CURRENT, as HIGHER INDUCTANCE, as the LOWEST INDUCTANCE RESISTANCE, simply because NO SEQUENCE Coils-Rings are connected ON its SIDE, DICTATED by the Brush positioning.


I also set on Commutator, an Angular, green dotted line, to define the plane where Cycles Start/End for Both Fields.

As you can see, this is an 180º cycle per EACH Field displacement, through Spacetime.

Like I always say, I may be adding to this post later on...as editing and correcting info.

Regards

Ufopolitics


EDIT 1: * On Both Statements when Field is Fully Retracted and is receiving Full Currents, Full Inductance as it has Lesser Inductive Resistance...I still see here a FLAW...it should take place the COMPLETE OPPOSITE!!
Whenever Magnetic Field is Fully Expanded, is that when this expanded Field, should receive FULL CURRENTS, FULL INDUCTANCE as Less Resistance...guess (up to now) we can not "have our cake and eat it too..." old saying.
But I know, I am so sure, that whenever we can achieve that part above...we will be 100% Successful!!

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Jan 27, 2024, 01:59 PMEDIT 1: * On Both Statements when Field is Fully Retracted and is receiving Full Currents, Full Inductance as it has Lesser Inductive Resistance...I still see here a FLAW...it should take place the COMPLETE OPPOSITE!!
Whenever Magnetic Field is Fully Expanded, is that when this expanded Field, should receive FULL CURRENTS, FULL INDUCTANCE as Less Resistance...guess (up to now) we can not "have our cake and eat it too..." old saying.
But I know, I am so sure, that whenever we can achieve that part above...we will be 100% Successful!!

Now, quoting myself above...to go over this issue again.

I know one of the ways we can overcome this problem, is whenever we move into a fully functional, Solid State, Electronic Circuit, through a Microprocessor, that we can Program into, our Functions, as we want them...as to Command Processing Unit, to FORCE Higher Currents by adding or reducing external resistance, inside the Driver board, at the required specific timings.

And of course, connections would be different, as each individual Ring Coil would be connected, NOT in series (as above images), but each independently one, connected to the Electronic Driver different terminals.

But, that is in the near Future...as we still have to test this Setup, then see how it goes.

Other than that, the Magnetic Fields are displacing in Longitudinal Spacetime, as I wanted to, this time AT UNISON, plus fields are not collapsing at all...and Input Currents are minimal now...and also Inducing Energy into Secondaries as a nice and smooth AC Sinewave...

So far this are good news.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I wanted to clarify some possible doubts, when it comes to the Drawings I have shown before, related to Magnetic Polarities Positioning, plus windings on Coils.

Even though, I have mentioned several times here, that this Method is based on a PURE ATTRACTION CHAIN, it is better to Visualize the way it goes.

So, here is an Image below, to show ALL Magnetic Polarization Distribution plus Displacement, based on METHOD 2:




On Image above, I have simplified the Connections, Commutator and Brush into a LINEAR DISPLACEMENT to "visualize it" better (even though they are still the SAME THING as previous Images)

FIRST, note the North/South Alignment...it is a Perfect, True, Attraction Chain, which means that ALL COILS, are wound on the SAME DIRECTION, and aligned in order to deliver this exact directional Polarity projection.

This means that here there are:

1- NO Bifilar winding.

2- NO CCW and CW combinations ANYWHERE.

3-This Coils are ALL WOUND, EITHER CW, or CCW...but ALL THE SAME WAY!!..And it is your choice to do it CW or CCW ALL (I am doing ALL COILS CCW)

So, Brush here MOVES BACK AND FORTH, LINEARLY, or 1 through 8 and BACK, 8 through 1...and so on, on repetitions of BACK<>FORTH.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, JUST TO THE TWO INTERNAL POLES OF BOTH END PRIMARIES...YOU REALIZE THEY ARE North and South, SOUTH FOR LEFT SIDE PRIMARY ON SCREEN, [color=var(--input-txt-color)]AS, NORTH FOR RIGHT PRIMARY ON SCREEN. [/color]

AND SO, BOTH PRIMARIES, INTERNAL POLES S<>N, ARE SET FACING THE SEQUENTIAL RING COILS...

AND THERE, IN BETWEEN, AND SAME LENGTH AS RING COILS, IS WHERE WE SET OUR SECONDARY (NOTE UPPER BRACKET DEFINING SPACE AND WRITTEN: "SECONDARY")

Ok, so far up to here, You have now all clear, (and if you do not, please, then go back and re-read it all again, please do not continue below!!, if you still do not have it completely clear in a FULL understanding, because it will confuse you even more!!


Here is the FINAL IDEA, I want you to conceive, whenever looking at this METHOD 2 SETUP...


And it is simple People...all we are doing here, is MOVING the Sequential Coils that are wound inside the Rotor Drum, of an Armature, that was in between the Two Fields on a Dynamo, from the 19th Century...

So, instead of Rotating these Coils, we are "Approaching and getting them Further Away", sequentially, to one Field on the Left, and then to the other Field on the Right.

All Rotational movements of "Closer and Further apart" of coils on Armature related to stator fields, are achieved by Figuera, in a Rectilinear Movement, NON Rotational...However, it is the SAME MAGNETIC EFFECT!!

Then, since our "Armature-Rotor" does not have a "Rotor"...and it is in a LINEAR ALIGNMENT, then we can set INSIDE ALL ARMATURE RING COILS, the other Induced or Secondary.


Ok, so, here is the last image for this post...Just Two Coils in an Armature of a Dynamo, 19th Century, apart by 180 degrees...only Two Coils...for sake of simplicity.


Coils #1 and #2 are in SERIES Connected (like ALL Coils on the Armature)...but I have set two at both extremes...they Rotate CCW here, but this does not matter, it could also be CW...

The IMPORTANT POINT HERE, is that as both coils rotate, on this position, and this directional rotation, and there are:


1- Two Coils GET CLOSER to each Stator Field of Opposite Polarity.  (here S><N)

2- Both Coils get a FULL ALIGNMENT to Stator Fields of Opposite Polarity (here S><N)

3- Two Coils start getting FURTHER AWAY from the Two Stator Fields of Opposite Polarity.

Then "Next Pair of Coils on the row" do the same exact thing...and so, each pair gets 1-Closer 2-Align to then get 3-Further Away, from Stator Fields...

Resuming...All these Coils do -in general- is to Get Closer- Align to Stator Fields- Get Away...and that is in a complete LOOP...where they repeat the same FUNCTIONS [1, 2, 3] on and on...but at a very fast speed.

We were here observing in detail at "Slow Motion"...


Ok, same thing...I more likely come back to Edit this post...


Regards


Ufopolitics

Ok, now, if we review my first images before prior post, where Primary N "Fully Expands" as Primary S "retracts"...to then have the Opposite, or N contracts and S expands...

it is also a correct Perspective View. As Both Stator Fields Alignment with the Seven Centered Sequential Coils, is MAGNETICALLY DIRECTIONAL, by an Attraction Chain.

The only difference, is from what point of view, we are looking into these magnetic interactions.

1- From Both Stators of Opposite Polarity, point of view. Where Sequential Coils are just "EXTENSIONS" of the Primaries Fields.

2- Or From the Armature and its Sequential Coils point of view. Where we consider Stator Fields as "Non Changing" Components...but just staying there without any virtual movement of their magnetic fields.

For both points of views, it results in a Coherent, Orderly Displacement of the Magnetic Fields.

And here, as an example, I will "freeze" a Rotational Frame, on a typical Rotary Dynamo...exactly when Stator Fields are perfectly Aligned, linearly, with the Two Coils on the Armature-Rotor...


So, what happens here?


1-Here we interpret the "Lenz Law"...where it recites that the Induced Coil(s) [here the two coils on Armature] become of the OPPOSITE POLARITY as to the Inductor one(s) (on this case the Stator Field(s) Coils...and that is exactly what we are seen on  image...a perfect Magnetic Attraction Chain as: N/S>N/S-N/S>N/S (the two inner N/S-N/S are the Two Rotor Coils)

2- Due to Lenz Law, this is where Stator Magnetic Field(s) and Rotor Coils Magnetic Fields, BECOME ONE, THEY BOTH LOCK UP, on each side extreme of Armature. So, here is when Armature LOCKS with Stator Fields.

This is the point, that in order to move to step #3 of previous post: Coils on armature get FURTHER AWAY...is where the Prime Mover Rotating this Dynamo, needs to exert MAXIMUM FORCE, to separate this FORMED Attract Chain, mainly if Dynamo is LOADED.

Now our point of interest here...is that whenever Coils on Rotor are Closer to Stator Fields, these coils become an EXTENSION of the Stator Field, on each end.

In our Design, there is no need to exert any force, simply because, we are not Physically separating the coils and armature steel core...but we are taking that Field from closer to Stator Coil, and getting it "further away" and closer to the other side Stator, by just moving our positive feed, the Brush, in a linear fashion.

Regards


Ufopolitics

Post Data: I need to get back to winding my sequential coils...and these posts take a long time to draw graphics, process them, and compose these posts...meaning, I will be only in, to answer fast questions with short answers...nothing that needs a lot of "elaboration"...otherwise I will never finish my coils.

Thanks

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Dec 03, 2023, 01:10 PMHello All,

Ok, on ALL previous posts, I have been showing all connections* based on the Original 1908 Patent by Clemente Figuera.
However, the MAIN POINT here, is the NEW STRUCTURAL INCORPORATION of the "R Box" right in between both Primaries (N & S)...

*All connections, basically referring from the commutator jumpers across, to the way of having connected the R Box in a Single row of coils to N and S Primaries.

Meaning, that Figuera shows the R Box with ONLY Eight [8] contacts going to the 16 elements commutator, where Two(2) of those eight contacts are common, two straight contacts that also go one to each Primary N and S Positive end.

So, this Design, FORCES Us, to have ONLY ONE SET OF COILS SEQUENCES on the R Box...

As I have explained on my previous Posts, if We wire it and wound a SINGLE SET OF COILS SEQUENCES , we will generate Two Magnetic Fields, which are in ATTRACTION MODE (S/N-+-S/N) at the Positive feeding point...

This method of connections looks very neat and clean, as in "Theory", it looks as is completely perfect...All explanations from an "Electrical point of view" are understood fine, as it matches our "BASIC" knowledge about Magnetic Fields...after all, using a N-S Field Bond, is the way we always have been doing it along History...

So, this method is supposed to work beautifully, right, Uh?

WELL, NO, unfortunately, when I took this Method of Connections to the Real Build Testing, it does NOT WORK!!

For some reason, both Fields CANCEL Induction, and it does induce into Secondary, but it is nothing to consider as a "top notch" design...

However, like I mentioned before...this  is not "over yet", I never give up that easy...actually is getting better by the minute... ;D

FIGUERA_1908_CONN_ANALYSIS.png

Good morning to All,

As you can see above, I have quoted myself on an old post #25 on page 6...that I wrote back on Dec 3, 2023.

And I had to go back in time, as I knew I have tested this option before, that I am disclosing lately, as "Method 2"...

Well, all I can tell you is that I was WRONG then, to give as a "FINAL DETERMINATION" that this Method did not work...and the reason why it did not work then (for me), is simply due that the setup I tested, was a VERY LOW RESISTANCE COILS...starting by the Two Primaries.

However, my previous study, analysis and Diagrams that I did on Page 5, from Post 20 to Post 22, related to this same Method 2 of connections are "spot on"!!...perfect!!

Those three images (that I am uploading them again, below) defines exactly, what I was referring to, on my recent Method 2 discussions:



And a much simpler way to understand what we are doing is shown on Image below...where I literally separated the two main coils to demonstrate they are just Two Coils connected in Parallel.


Now, for sake of simplicity, I only have Two Coils here, split by a "center floating-sliding Positive Tap" (that represents our positive Brush)...but, in reality, we can have MANY COILS, connected ALL in SERIES, and TAPPED at their joints which are: end of last to start of next one...and so on.

For Method 2, I have shown Seven (7) Sequential Center Coils, connected in series, as Two (2), One on each end Primary Coils, also connected in series to the Sequence Coils Group.

And that gives me, exactly, Eight[8] terminal taps...that goes to commutator contacts, numbered 1 to 8 taking 180º...then bridged/jumped, to make a "return" as from 8 to 1 on the other 180º.


Ok, so, I want that this example, serves as future builds...that we should NOT, NEVER, discard "A Method", because it simply, did not work for us, with a "specific setup" at that time...

Because, that setup could just have the wrong settings, that the Method requires to work properly.

Method 2 requires a Higher Resistance in our Coils...and no, it will not work for lower resistance coils...they will be just making a "short circuit", that would rise our Input Amps "sky-high" ...not giving us the positive results we are searching for...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

And if you go further back, like I did...to page 4, post 18...on Dec 2, 2023...

I even made this Method on a 3D CAD...and compare it to Figuera way to connect it on right of image:


Note: Last night I was starting a 3D CAD, animated, where as brush moves, it varies Field(s) Volume, exactly as I have displayed on previous images here...to make a short video...and this triggered, going back to my previous notes...to have a full review of my previous work.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, so, now I am winding sequential coils with 23 gauge, around 3.0 Ohms each...and I only need to make seven to test Method 2...However, I will be making Eight coils total...

Why?...because, I will be going back again, to retest Method 1, with Eight Coils, the Full test, (prior, I did only the "halfway test" which was very positive), however, when I added Four more coils, it did not work as expected...so, now I will do it -again- with a higher resistance coils, all eight.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone,

Again, I would like to specify that This is NOT a Topic to "discuss" about Figuera Patent, NOR "suggest improvements" about Figuera's Patent, nor any other one..

This is a: SPECIFIC DISCUSSION TOPIC ABOUT MY METHOD(S).

And I, will listen and Discuss ONLY with Members who has shown -at least- one build, or that are in the Process to build one, design one, or Anyone, who have any specific questions or doubts about MY DESIGN.

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, on the next page I will be uploading a couple of testing videos, plus some definite and detailed Graphics on Method 2, about Magnetic Polarity Visuals, plus coils winding details.

Thanks

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, here is a short video, where I am just connecting FULL DC POWER to ALL COILS in SERIES...As they are going to be connected on NEXT TEST.
Note: This Video on Polarities of FULL COILS, I did it AFTER running the Test Video...reason why I mention "as  on previous test video"

Only the Two End Terminals, of the Two End Coils, which are BOTH connected together, to negative for the Generator purposes, I am here splitting them, and the one on Left End, I am applying Negative as the other Terminal Positive...then check Magnetic Polarities.


And here is the Graphic for those Connections...


Ok, here is where some confusion may arise...so I made graphic as clear as water...clean water, of course... ;D

ALL COILS ARE IN SERIES ON THIS TEST.

1-Reason why the Amperage is only 1.1 Amps at 36 Volts. While, during testing, the Two Main Field Coils or Primaries are connected in PARALLEL, as per Figuera Diagram.

2- ALL Coils are WOUND CCW, ALL...and set exactly as shown on Diagram.

3- The Last Coil is "reversed" but still, is CCW aligned with all the rest.

And we are still getting a Full Attract Magnetic Chain on this full series coils of a N/S.

Again, I will be adding to this post...later on.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello to  All,

Ok, I did make that second test with the four coils only, 23 gauge, 3.0  ohms...it did NOT work.

And here is the video about this latest test with four 3.0 ohms coils:


On this Method 2, NONE of the coils can collapse at ANYTIME, and since there are only four coils and room for three  more...those "empty spaces" were causing all  coils to  collapse...throwing down all expectations.

In order for this test to work successfully, I would need to either build a 14-contact commutator, or seriously modify the existing one...as also build a shorter secondary...make another steel core to fit only four coils...and...

I am not going to do ALL that!!...since it would be faster to finish all three coils left to wind... ;D

So, back to winding...

Regards to All.

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Well, I could not stay with just a "looser" test...so here is what I did:

I added 3 coils off the 0.8 ohms (N1+S5) from previous method, plus a third of 0.5 ohms...and connect them, in order to fill the empty spaces...

This is just to see if there was some improvement from previous Main Test Video...and there were improvements.

So, running at the same 36.1 Volts, the Input amperage dropped almost in a 50% than previous run, which was around 4.3 amps, now at 2.3 to even below 2.0...and still I get the bulb lit at much lower RPM's than previous test.

Here is the video:


Have a nice evening...


Ufopolitics

Hello, Ufopolitics.
It's amazing how much you get done everyday.
I'm ready to start building.
I have a good selection of wire of many different gauges which is mostly #26, 18 and 10 square but lesser amounts of many other gauges. I also have a 6 foot length of 1 1/4" steel bar and the steel end plates and a lathe to cut everything on.
If you can find the time would you please give the dimensions for the coils including the inside diameter, the width, the wire gauge and the number of turns or feet length or pounds of each coil that you are using or your suggested dimensions if different from what you have already made.
I printed out these 27 pages but it's still difficult for me to see what dimensions you are using at various stages.
I want to duplicate your machine as similar as possible so I can more easily compare notes as you post your progress.
My first application of this device will be a heater for my house.
My background is machinery repair in the manufacturing industry including electronics, machine shop, welding, hydraulics, pneumatics, electroplating, aluminum foundry and water purification, now retired, living 100 miles east of Los Angeles.
Thank you.

Richard G

Quote from: ggx9 on Feb 02, 2024, 04:48 AMHello, Ufopolitics.
It's amazing how much you get done everyday.
I'm ready to start building.
I have a good selection of wire of many different gauges which is mostly #26, 18 and 10 square but lesser amounts of many other gauges. I also have a 6 foot length of 1 1/4" steel bar and the steel end plates and a lathe to cut everything on.
If you can find the time would you please give the dimensions for the coils including the inside diameter, the width, the wire gauge and the number of turns or feet length or pounds of each coil that you are using or your suggested dimensions if different from what you have already made.
I printed out these 27 pages but it's still difficult for me to see what dimensions you are using at various stages.
I want to duplicate your machine as similar as possible so I can more easily compare notes as you post your progress.
My first application of this device will be a heater for my house.
My background is machinery repair in the manufacturing industry including electronics, machine shop, welding, hydraulics, pneumatics, electroplating, aluminum foundry and water purification, now retired, living 100 miles east of Los Angeles.
Thank you.

Richard G

Thanks ggx9,

The only way we are going to win this battle, is by working hard and keep thinking in a positive way...if one test did not work out as we expected...then we try to make it better...and better.

Well, it seems you are pretty well equipped, plus you do have enough expertise and tooling to make a great setup.

So, I got you "on board" at the Builder's Group, and there you will have access to view all other Members working on this setup, as well as my Topic related to spec's, materials, etc.
As there you could ask as well about anything related to this Method and Setup.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

And good morning for those on the Eastern Coast of USA...good afternoon and good evening for others around the globe.

This morning, I am making another Secondary Coil, with 20 gauge...and I am doing it with assistance from my Lathe, to make it faster.

After I am done, I will hook it on the same setup I had last night...and re-test it again.

Point here, is to find the right combination of gauge-turns and resistance in our whole setup...

This System does not work out with "whatever is laying around"...it must be BALANCED, and then we will have success.

On all Videos yesterday, I had the Coils loose on purpose, JUST FOR DEMONSTRATION ONLY, to be able to Visualize how this system "Pumps" in a Longitudinal way...and the huge force the Magnetic Fields displacement have.

However, if we allow the Coils to move, then our Virtual Field Displacement DECREASES in Spacetime gain.

So, no, this System is meant to work VERY COMPACT AND PRESSED TIGHT, in order that physical movement-displacement of our Coils do not take place!

While I was making the test, I compressed the whole assembly with my hands, and immediately it showed a noticeable gain, just by holding them tight, not allowing movement at low speed.

Even though -as you have noticed- when I increased speed, all coils tend to tighten by themselves.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Please watch the difference from yesterday tests, when now, I just replaced the Secondary I just finished winding today...20 gauge, 14 Layers.


I will keep adding later on


Ufopolitics

Hello,

Now the last Test run for today, same Test Setup...but at 50V Input...



Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, here I am showing the Magnetic Polarities, plus INTERNAL Connections Diagram, according to my Latest Setup, shown on last videos:



Description about CAD Drawing above:

1-I have set different Blues as different Reds to distinguish between the North-South belonging to FIELD 1 & FIELD 2.

2-Brush is positioned at contact #4. So, you can distinguish the advancement of North Field 1 versus North Field 2 at that specific point of contact.

3-As Positive charged Brush moves, following arrow direction, into further contacts 5, 6, 7, and 8, the Field 1 North (darker Blue) will keep displacing towards the Right, gaining proximity to Field 2 North (Lighter Blue).

4-As Brush passes Contact #8, and further on, according to directional arrow, the opposite displacement will take place, Field 1 North will start Retracting, as Field 2 North will start Expanding towards the Left, gaining proximity to Field 1 North.

Contacts 0 and 10, from Field 1 and Field 2 Coils END TERMINALS, are connected to DC Negative Input.
And these two contacts were the ones I split, in order to add Negative to Contact 0, and Positive DC to Contact 10, to demonstrate the FULL S>>>N Polarities of WHOLE ASSEMBLY OF COILS as ONE...And I disconnected Brush from positive for this test.

All this Test on Whole Coil Assy Polarity is demonstrated on my First Video, on previous page (27), Post 130.

Also, the Connections between Field Coils and Static Armature, Sequential Coils are shown on image, so "S" refers to START of Coil, as "E" represents the END of each Coil.

EDIT 1: PLEASE, NOTICE, the Connections between Field 1 and Static Armature Sequential Coils, and then the LAST Coil #7 START is connected to the START of Field 2 Coil.

I really do not have the full time to do it right now, but we need to get to a MUTUAL CONVENTION, as to "How can I determine my Coil is CW, or CCW?"

But I will say just the Basics here...

When You START to Wind a Coil, putting it in FRONT OF YOUR FACE, and looking at Your Hand wrist Watch, that is where you decide if you are winding to your RIGHT (CW) or to your LEFT (CCW)

All these CW & CCW Concepts, are PURELY RELATIVE, and ALWAYS they MUST come with "THE POINT OF VIEW LOCATION" in order to make sure you are doing it right.

For example: A 250,000 Testing Machine for Diesel Pumps, on its Software, in order to set the right Rotation sense, before testing, Machine gives you Two (2) arrows, one pointing Right and another one pointing Left...Then You must choose from Model# and Type of Pump You are testing...it will tell you on the Spec's, the Rotation Direction, PLUS, it will "ALWAYS remind you": LOOKING FROM THE FRONT CONNECTING SHAFT...And that is the POINT OF VIEW.

Meaning, that Pump, once already connected and plugged on Machine, shaft may be pointing AWAY from your Point of View....HOWEVER, You must always, imagine you are set IN FRONT OF PUMP, looking directly at its CENTER FRONT SHAFT, then "compute" the Rotation Sense...

Same thing happens with Vehicles, parts, replacements, alignment, repairs, etc,etc...They will always give you a "REFERENCE POINT" to locate the specific part...

On next Post I will be showing the way I connected, on this same image, but to Power Supply, and Scope Probes Location, Output V-Meter, etc,etc.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello there,

Ok, here is the Diagram of ALL External Connections on the latest Videos that I have shown...of course, Voltages for I/O varies, depending on Video Test, but in general, these are the connections for all Tests.

Next Test that I want to run, is to connect a Third Scope Probe (it would be Ch 2, Light Blue) to the Second Positive Input to Field 2 (Conn. #8)...I want to see both Input sinewaves simultaneously, next to each other's...in order to compare them.

And of course, ALL Probes are set at 1X, on ALL Channels, Volts Division on Scope settings = 2.5V also on all channels. (that volt div. is the best to be seen on video recordings)




Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Here I have uploaded the video about the Test I have mentioned on prior post...

I have added Scope Probe #2 (light blue) to the Input terminal 8, for Field 2...and I am showing both Input sines...


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

And here is that test...removing connector #8 from commutator Positive Power to Field 2, leaving Probe and cap connected...to see the blue sine now:


So, the question here is, what is the source of ENERGY feeding this blue sine?

1- It could be through EM Induction from other Coils active, plus displacing still, back and forth?...

2- Or it could be from Series Connection that still, electrically activates Field Coil 2...but if so, IMHO, Both sines should be in sync, aligned, correct?...

Not Offset like is showing after disconnection...

And there is a way to find out...disconnecting coil #7 from Field Coil 2...and reading just from Field Coil 2...

If it still there (Blue sinewave) after disconnecting Coil 7, then it is purely EM Induction.

and also (maybe on a forth channel) from disconnected terminal from coil 7....to read that Signal.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Feb 03, 2024, 04:32 PMSo, the question here is, what is the source of ENERGY feeding this blue sine?

1- It could be through EM Induction from other Coils active, plus displacing still, back and forth?...

2- Or it could be from Series Connection that still, electrically activates Field Coil 2...but if so, IMHO, Both sines should be in sync, aligned, correct?...

Not Offset like is showing after disconnection...

And there is a way to find out...disconnecting coil #7 from Field Coil 2...and reading just from Field Coil 2...

If it still there (Blue sinewave) after disconnecting Coil 7, then it is purely EM Induction.

and also (maybe on a forth channel) from disconnected terminal from coil 7....to read that Signal.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Nevermind...I tested.

That Blue Sine is there because of Both...1 & 2...

From coil 7 is weak, but there, offset...and when connect Field 2 it maximizes...

Regards

Ufopolitics

ufopolitics,
The phenomena that you are showing is what I talked to you about in an email that I sent you a few days ago.  I think to determine was is happening here is something that I was trying to do when I blew up my mosfet driver board.  Awaiting parts to rebuild.

I think you should try breaking your system apart into two pieces.  It will require another core and another secondary/ armature/y coil.  Separate the two coil sets completely, physically, then drive them with the commutator just like you are doing now in the opposing directions.  With a restive load on each y coil the output should be measured and observed.

Then connect the two y coils together with the polarity to create a sine wave.  I think that feedback voltage (Lenz's law or Lorentz law) from the active coils will be absorbed in the permeance of the inactive coil.  The two field coils that you refer to may need a small current in the inactive state to create permeance, although remnant magnetism in the core may be sufficient.

The fields in the cores will never change direction, only in strength.  The only thing changing direction will be the current and voltage in the y coil.

I don't think this is a violation of Figuera's design because the patent is very (intentionally) vague on the construction of the coil sets.  That's how patents work.

That is the approach I am working on a painstakingly slow pace.  I'm no expert on electromagnetism so anyone feel free to comment.

Keep up all the good work.  Your enthusiasm is contagious.

greybeardmike

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 04, 2024, 10:32 AMufopolitics,
The phenomena that you are showing is what I talked to you about in an email that I sent you a few days ago.  I think to determine was is happening here is something that I was trying to do when I blew up my mosfet driver board.  Awaiting parts to rebuild.

I think you should try breaking your system apart into two pieces.  It will require another core and another secondary/ armature/y coil.  Separate the two coil sets completely, physically, then drive them with the commutator just like you are doing now in the opposing directions.  With a restive load on each y coil the output should be measured and observed.

Then connect the two y coils together with the polarity to create a sine wave.  I think that feedback voltage (Lenz's law or Lorentz law) from the active coils will be absorbed in the permeance of the inactive coil.  The two field coils that you refer to may need a small current in the inactive state to create permeance, although remnant magnetism in the core may be sufficient.

The fields in the cores will never change direction, only in strength.  The only thing changing direction will be the current and voltage in the y coil.

I don't think this is a violation of Figuera's design because the patent is very (intentionally) vague on the construction of the coil sets.  That's how patents work.

That is the approach I am working on a painstakingly slow pace.  I'm no expert on electromagnetism so anyone feel free to comment.

Keep up all the good work.  Your enthusiasm is contagious.

greybeardmike

Thanks Mike,

Please do not take me wrong, but I am happy with what I have so far...and the System is still not completed. So, at this point, I am not trying to "repair" the "electrons magnetic pump"...

I still have to finish the rest of sequential coils at 3.0 ohms with 23ga...to have a FULL view of the whole system operation, completed, before I make any radical changes.

This design works better with the TWO Opposite Fields moving back and forth at Unison, on the same core, on the same secondary coil, and it is easy to know, just disconnecting one side Field (2)... the output on "y" drops...like I did on previous videos...

The tests I have been doing about the point 8 terminal probe, and Field 2, is just to determine if both sequential Groups are "Self Inducing" between themselves on the lapse of time, when one is greater in Field intensity over the second one...So, I still have another pending test to make.

NEXT TEST: I am going to fully disconnect Field 2 Coil, also from negative, so both terminals would be scoped while system is running, then I would know the signal that Field 2 is generating, which would also apply to  Field 1, obviously if they are both identical sequences, just offset on their operation.

On another note, Yes, I am going to build another set, identical to this one, since I already have another two Field Coils, with identical spec's as the ones on this system...but I need to order more 20 gauge wire for the 2nd secondary.

I still have plenty of 23 gauge wire.

About your blown FET's...try using Optocoupler's, to feed the Gates of your MOSFET's, as also use safety diode's between Drain-Source...

Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Now, this System I am working now, is very STABLE, related, mainly, to Input Currents...why?...because the Resistance remains also stable, the same, FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

However, INTERNALLY, between Sequential Coils plus Fields 1 & 2, currents and resistance varies...and so the Magnetic Fields 1 & 2 also vary their Intensity, in a UNISON movement.

AGAIN, without affecting the Total Resistance of System as a WHOLE...SO, Input Currents, remains STABLE.

These INTERNAL changes in Resistance and Currents, does NOT affect the Total Input to the System, simply, because Total Resistance does not change.

EXCEPT, when I start dialing up in speed/frequency, then Input Current starts to drop...but Output keeps increasing...and this is the "perfect scenario" that we need.

Now, ALL Dynamo's (and even ALL Generators now) have a LIMIT, to generate voltage-currents for the load you add...and if you OVERLOAD Dynamo, BEYOND its CAPACITY... it just quits, collapses, supplying power...

Another thing that we all, need to realize...is that our Secondaries work directly with our non-rotating armature coils, PLUS with our Fields. Basically, whenever we add loads on secondary.

When we add loads to our secondary(ies), a Process of EXCHANGE based on DEMAND-SUPPLY, between Inductor-Induced, starts to take place.

This is NOT new, every Generator have its "limits" in "MAX LOAD"...ALL of them!!

Now, the "tighter" Both Systems (Inductor-Induced) are operating, the better response in that relationship of Demand-Supply would take place.

Anyways, after I have finished all my sequential Coils, I will start working on a better Steel Core Design, for these type of Systems...and I already have that figured out...just need to finish the 3D CAD images...to take it to reality.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics,
For clarity.  I do not want to disrupt your testing or your train of thought.  I'm just posting as part of the discussion.

If I get something of enough value built I will start a thread to explain what I have done.

I have ordered some safety diodes.  I don't know why I didn't have them on there before.

Please don't let me sidetrack your progress.

greybeardmike

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 04, 2024, 12:58 PMUfopolitics,
For clarity.  I do not want to disrupt your testing or your train of thought.  I'm just posting as part of the discussion.

If I get something of enough value built I will start a thread to explain what I have done.

I have ordered some safety diodes.  I don't know why I didn't have them on there before.

Please don't let me sidetrack your progress.

greybeardmike

Hey, do not worry -at all- Mike...I will not get sidetracked... ;D

Please do, open your own Topic on Builder's Group anytime you want...and there you may get some help from other Builder's working on similar electronic driving setup, as you have.

But you must expose all your circuits, Programs to Arduino, etc, so other's can see where the possible errors exists.

The more Open we are, the better and faster the solutions will take place, when working as a Team.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to Everyone,

I guess I am in a Full Time basis here...24/7...lol.

But I think this point is very important to share with you all...

I just did the test that I was mentioning on my previous post.

Which is to completely disconnect Field 2 Coil from the rest, as also from Negative Input...then I reconnected Coil #7 Start, back to commutator point 8, this way we will keep loop closed.

Output from Secondary "y" is completely disconnected, meaning, no light bulb, not measuring...both terminals are totally loose.

So, Field 2 Coil is COMPLETELY ISOLATED from the whole System, so, Field 2 Coil is just acting, as another Secondary...

On the Two Terminals from Field 2 Coil, are connected the Scope Probe Channel 2, Blue, and its ground. Plus, the AC Meter reading its Total AC Output...plus Caps that I show on video.




My conclusion, is that while operating together, Both Fields 1 & 2 keeps assisting each other's, in a type of "Self-Induction", or it could be better called as "MUTUAL INDUCTANCE EXCHANGE" during its operation.

Furthermore, I need to keep evaluating and developing this fact, perfectioning it, in order to achieve a completely Self-Feed Exciter System.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello,

As I also forgot to mention, and I did not want to Edit same post, as You may miss this...

But, this is not any kind of "magic" here...Dynamo's from the 19th Century did this same "Self-Feed" effect all the time, and there we run on different categories, as "self-excited" or "externally-excited"...that after gaining the operating speed, than you disconnect that external Input...and it will keep running by itself.

In Hawkins Book, it mentions that as Armature rotates, and reach the rotational speed required, it will start "filling up" both Stator Fields...

Also, Figuera mentions the same thing, at the end of his explanation, on his 1908 Patent, that after Generator is operating, generating power, then you can remove that external supply that got it started...and machine will keep running by itself.

I remember exactly, when Figuera uses the term in Spanish "corriente de cebo" which means "bait current", to define the exact term of this external power role...a "bait" current supply.

Even though, that term is not the adequate one, a more correct "technical" term, would be a "priming" current supply...like we must always "prime" a completely empty hydraulic pump, with whatever liquid it pumps, before start running it, at full working speed.

In our case that "liquid" we are pumping...are "electron liquid flow"... ;D

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics,
I'm back to winding coils again and want to ask you a question.  I have gone back over the posts and I don't see a reference to the number of turns in your "y" coil.  You have put a lot of focus on the primary winding resistance values to manage the input current but I didn't see any values for the "y"coil.  I saw where you recently wound a new "y" coil on your lathe.  How did you determine what size to make it?

I just picked a random length for my "y" coils and as I have rewound them several times in different configurations, the physical size determined how many turns that turned out to be.  The latest configuration was 414 turns.  I figured once something was working, the task would be to experiment and gather data points to determine a formula or ratio to do more intelligent builds.

I don't think a turns ratio like a transformer applies to this system.  Since you are getting some serious output voltage, I am curious how many turns are in your "y" coil.

greybeardmike

I don't think a turns ratio like a transformer applies to this system.  Since you are getting some serious output voltage, I am curious how many turns are in your "y" coil.

greybeardmike


Hi Mike.
I believe Ufopolitics covered that under the Builders section page 7 post #33, second illustration, where he refers to that "y" coil as the "inner secondary coil".
And I think he wants these questions to go there so I am not re-posting that part here as much as I would like to do so.
Now I believe Ufopolitics will delete our posts #150 and #151 or move them to "Builders" so I don't expect to see these here much longer.

RichardG

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 08, 2024, 01:23 AMUfopolitics,
I'm back to winding coils again and want to ask you a question.  I have gone back over the posts and I don't see a reference to the number of turns in your "y" coil.  You have put a lot of focus on the primary winding resistance values to manage the input current but I didn't see any values for the "y"coil.  I saw where you recently wound a new "y" coil on your lathe.  How did you determine what size to make it?

I just picked a random length for my "y" coils and as I have rewound them several times in different configurations, the physical size determined how many turns that turned out to be.  The latest configuration was 414 turns.  I figured once something was working, the task would be to experiment and gather data points to determine a formula or ratio to do more intelligent builds.

I don't think a turns ratio like a transformer applies to this system.  Since you are getting some serious output voltage, I am curious how many turns are in your "y" coil.

greybeardmike

Hello GB Mike,

Exactly as Member ggx9 wrote above, I have all details about Secondary "y" on the Builders Topic.

It is (on my Method) called "Inner Secondary" as I plan to add an Outer Secondary, whenever I am finished with the right sequencing coils building, plus, I am happy with the Output.

I have also written about Secondaries Structural Dimensions to be strictly dictated by the size and number of your sequential coils (As I call them also, "Armature Coils")

So, the Total length of "y" simply, is given by adding all sequential coils width, and on this Method 2, we are using Seven (7) Coils of 1/2 inch or 13mm each, which comes to 91 mm.

However, my center steel core is 4 1/4 inch length, which is 107.95 mm, plus I leave some extra room, for adding later on some "steel washers" sandwiched in between each sequential coil.

So, I did the total length on my Inner Secondary "y" as 112mm total.


Everything is explained on graphics, at My Builder's Main Thread, which is ONLY for Builders:

Ufopolitics Figuera's New Method, for Builder's details in replicating ONLY! - Page 7 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,17.30.html)

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone,

Ok, on the video below, I am testing at an Input of 60 Volts.

The adding of more resistance and turns on my New Seven Sequential Coils of 23 gauge, made quite a difference, otherwise with prior 18 gauge coils I would be working at around 7 or 8 amps input...

However, I still need to keep adding more wire to my Two Fields, and I mention on video that the perfect scenario I want to be is 60V and around One (1) Amp.

This is in order that whenever I move into 100V Input, Exciter System works normally around 1.8-2.0 Amps.

The small AC Fan Motor I ran it basically to show you that the Sinewave we are generating at output here, is a pure, true AC Sine...otherwise, for those who knows, know that these types of motors will NOT run on a Pulsed DC Current, but with a True AC Sinewave.

As these types of motors require the minimal of 110 Volts to fully run...it will barely move at all with 60V...No matter if it have 3.0 Amps...




Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

I did a Second Test on following video, where I added Two Identical as Field Coils, in series with each one, at each ends.

And of course, I had to extend the steel core for each additional Field Coil, further outwards...

See the results: 


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

On this video I am connecting some AC Motor loads, to see how the Generator responds...how much Input Amperage it increases when fully speeding and stressing a hand drill tool...

On the Scope we can clearly see that the Output Sine (Yellow), remains above both of the Input Sines (Magenta and Blue)...no matter the stress we set on hand tool, which it runs at 120V /1.2A


Regards

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics,
On the previous test with the additional field coils added, could you be reaching saturation of the core?  Is there some way to test if the core is saturated?
greybeardmike

Hello GB Mike,

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 11, 2024, 03:31 AMUfopolitics,
On the previous test with the additional field coils added, could you be reaching saturation of the core?

Not at all, Saturation on this mass of steel I am using, requires of a very High Frequency plus a very Intense Magnetic Field (over 1 Tesla), in order to Saturate it (Fully Magnetized)

I am barely running on all these tests at 43-45 Hertz...as I explained on video, the Rotary Switch is missing some contacts at higher speeds...it will not let me go above 45 Hertz.

Simply divide your running RPM's by 60 seconds (1 minute), and you will get the hertz you are driving your System on.

Example: yesterday the most I ran the switch was at 2560 RPM's...but let's round it to 2600...and that is exactly 43 Hertz.

This System uses Two LINEARLY Opposed Fields of the same Polarity, or a North facing a North, or a South facing a South...these are Opposite Magnetic Vortexes.

So, here the steel domains are constantly changing in a 180 degrees direction, every time one Field takes over the other Field (in spacetime) .

Therefore, these Fields movements, constantly "cleans up" the possibility of magnetic saturation (full alignment of steel domains) to take place.

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 11, 2024, 03:31 AMIs there some way to test if the core is saturated?
greybeardmike

Of course, just check your steel cores for Magnetic Remanence after you turn off the power switch.

If you have the Polarity detector Pen tool I have shown...read it...or simply approach a fine piece of steel...like a razor blade, and check for magnetization, after you turn off your system.

Saturation of Steel equals to Magnetization of Steel...meaning, that ALL Domains are ALIGNED in a certain direction...and then you will have a permanent or momentarily polarization of your core.

Normally the Steel Plates that I use to hold all coils together...if I leave them loose (no bolts attaching them)...and as soon as I stop magnetic flow, by turning off my INPUT power switch...both Plates- at the same time- fall off...that tells you there is ZERO Saturation on your System...or ZERO Magnetic Remanence.

Hope this clears it up for you, Mike.


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Next Post I am showing a video to help the full understanding of the Magnetic Fields Movement, taking place on this Method 2 of Interactions.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, here is a video about the basic Understanding of this System:


First than all, you need to realize that ALL these Coils (including Field Coils) does NOT have any Ferromagnetic Material inserted into them at all, they are only made of insulating tape, plus paper and copper wires...
Second, that the Steel Core is completely STATIC during this test...

Therefore, what is moving ALL these Coils, is PURELY the Magnetic Fields that these coils generate EACH, and all these individual Fields are carrying these Copper Wire Mass, back and forth with it, at Low Speeds.

As whenever we increase the Frequency, or MAGNETIC FIELD Traveling Speed, then the Copper Mass of Wires can NO LONGER FOLLOW these much faster movements done by this Massless, Weightless Entity...called Magnetic Field Spectrum.

Then, when ALL these Coils are TIGHT, SECURED, on their Housing and Structures...ONLY THESE MAGNETIC FIELDS ARE the ones MOVING VIRTUALLY THROUGH SPACETIME DISPLACEMENT.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Below is an Image taken of the Scope Signals, while I was performing the latest Test:



And below is the same image, where I have added all the Specifications Highlighted for the Analysis:



Ok, so first:

The running Frequency is at 31.12 Hertz/ Sampling Frame Time Capturing is at 20 milliseconds (20.0 ms)

1- I have set a Green dotted line for Zero-line level.

2- I have set Horizontal lines to define each of the Peaks for all sines.

2a- Red dotted Lines are set for All Negative Signals (below zero)

2b- Yellow dotted line for Positive Peak Output.

2c- Light Blue dotted line for Both Input Sines.

3- Scope Channel Settings are:

3a- All Three Channels are set EQUALLY at 5.0 Volts per each square on Screen Grid at Scope Spec's.

3b- All Physical Scopes are set at 10X (set at each Scope Probe Switch)

All these settings on Scope and Probes were done in order that Signals do not exceed screen size.

Basically, this Analysis is NOT AT ALL, about discussions if Output Signal on Scope is "bigger" or "Greater" than both Input Signals...NOPE!

What I would like to point out, I basically did it, at the previous video, with the observation of the Sequential Coils floating back and forth...

But, adding here a deeper analysis about the Two Input Signals shape and form...

First, I want to clear up something I said WRONG at previous video...and that was that the Input Signals "Collapse"...no, they do not!!

Both Input Signals SMOOTHLY fall over time -NOT in a steep, vertical line, like a typical "collapsing" takes place- to the point that the ASCENDING other Signal CROSSES at a specific timing, and at a precise, repeated, perfectly defined LEVEL, which I called "Overlapping or Crossing Points-line" (not shown on image)

On the Physical Sequential Coils Assembly, this Crossing Point should take place around the EXACT CENTER of ALL Seven Coils, IF, All Coils are SECURED AND TIGHT.

And for this latest Video, all sequential Coils were loose...so this crossing points-line, was like "floating" back and forth...and even so, they still show a consistent alignment.

The Resistance that each sequential coil has, is the main cause for this smooth ascending and fall of the Input Positive Sine Signals. However, when they reach the End travel of each displacement FALL, is when the sum of ALL Coils resistances involved on the fall, leaves a NEGATIVE Trace, below zero.

We can interpret this under zero signal as a PARTIAL COLLAPSE (not a full collapse, since none of these coils ever turns off) and I see it as a Magnetic Field Inertia reversal, where after it was fully powered, it starts losing currents, because the adding of subsequential coil's resistances on the series connections...then it "tends to reverse"...but it never does...it is just like a "less Northern Polarization" than previous one, when it was fully powered, without any resistance because brush was directly feeding it.

And honestly, on this point, is where the Two Input AC Caps that I have installed at both input points [1 & 8] play a decisive role, as not allowing the Field and so the Signal, to fully drop on the negative side.

If I take these two caps off, the negative spikes at input, would be galore during the operation.

Finally, a question that I even asked myself at certain point...as is:

Why if there are Two Positive Input Signals...the Secondary Coil delivers such a neat, clean, AC Sinewave, that goes precisely the same height point level, to Positive Peak to Negative Peak passing by zero line?

First, what the Scope Probes at INPUT receives, are simply Two Positive Signals, NEVER FULLY Negative (except by the Inertial Field small travel), so it reflects exactly what they "scope" on the screen.

Input Scope Probes do NOT capture the TRAVELING SPATIAL DIRECTION of those Two Positive Signals in real, physical world coordinates, related to our setup.

Much less the Scope Probes "know" that Both Signals are COMPLETELY OPPOSED ONE TO EACH OTHER'S on Real World Coordinates...

But our extended Inner Secondary Coil, which is expanded along both opposed traveling Input Signals does.

For the Secondary Coil, it is a FULLY and DEFINITIVE Positive and Negative Field Displacement along its windings...and so, the Yellow Probe connected to its terminals reads exactly what is going on...a Positive and then a Negative sinewave.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

Hello again...

I can never stop thanking Ken Wheeler's book about Magnetism.

It really makes you "see" beyond the invisible...basically, when it comes to helping visualize the Magnetic Field.

But, there is more to it...like when he refers and DEFINES, the only Two Interactions existing on Magnetic Fields...Attraction versus Repulsion:

Image taken from  Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism (Full Read Onsite PDF) - Page 4 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,9.15.html)

Page 4, Post 15, Image number 4 scrolling down: 




REPULSION: Far right are two likewise spin fields causing deflection; this is mirror membrane Ether deflection, this is literally extremely high-pressure space,

ATTRACTION: whereas the middle picture is a negative pressure counterspatial voidance sink.

Since the center picture is diagramming the Ether returning to counterspace, that picture is showing the formation of the new dielectric inertial plane between two inverse spin fields and two separate magnets about to become one single magnet.


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufopolitics,

it's a surprisingly smooth and nice sine out, and seems to be a prof that bloch-displacement/pumping into secondary occur completely as anticipated by you, what an accomplishment!

What primary factor do you think could lay behind the voltage drop seen on secondary under load?

To analyze the voltage drop on secondary at load, one could try to make a 5 point graph showing power in and out respectively at different voltages and loads, simply to recognize the pattern for around where there seems to be a breaking point (if any), could maybe reveal some and also become a reference point for further improvements in the balancing and core material/structure.

I am still amazed, so well done.

Sincerely
Fessor

Quote from: Fessor on Feb 13, 2024, 01:57 PMHi Ufopolitics,

it's a surprisingly smooth and nice sine out, and seems to be a prof that bloch-displacement/pumping into secondary occur completely as anticipated by you, what an accomplishment!

What primary factor do you think could lay behind the voltage drop seen on secondary under load?

To analyze the voltage drop on secondary at load, one could try to make a 5 point graph showing power in and out respectively at different voltages and loads, simply to recognize the pattern for around where there seems to be a breaking point (if any), could maybe reveal some and also become a reference point for further improvements in the balancing and core material/structure.

I am still amazed, so well done.

Sincerely
Fessor

Hello Fessor,

Thanks.

Quote from: Fessor on Feb 13, 2024, 01:57 PMWhat primary factor do you think could lay behind the voltage drop seen on secondary under load?

There are two factors required on the Exciting System (primary)...the first one, we have achieved so far...it is Output Voltage gain above input...
The second one is amperage gain...I am still working on that one, even though I have played with it in the past, and I have shown that video on this topic.

The "gradual stepping" of Sequential Fields, increases voltage over time...while the fast impact, (short timing) causes amperage gain.

We have to "mix" both on the same "menu"...

You will see it soon.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Feb 13, 2024, 02:33 PMThere are two factors required on the Exciting System (primary)...the first one, we have achieved so far...it is Output Voltage gain above input...
The second one is amperage gain...I am still working on that one, even though I have played with it in the past, and I have shown that video on this topic.

The "gradual stepping" of Sequential Fields, increases voltage over time...while the fast impact, (short timing) causes amperage gain.

And expanding a bit on my above comment, the best is to explain based on the way a "Pump" works...

If the -not loaded- Pump, is rising pressure enough, keeping it steady, that is great...BUT, if, whenever we put a pressure load, pump pressure drops beyond spec's...

Normally, this is due to a leak somewhere on the high-pressure circuit, that comes up only under load.

Or it could be that the pressure built, at no load, did not have the enough force/strength to hold at load.

In our case, Voltage is the pressure...but Amperage is the Force of that pressure.

Balancing both, pressure and force, will deliver a low voltage (pressure) drop, under load.

Please, do not get confused here...there always, would be a "pressure drop" on any system whenever you add a load, that is when the "prime mover" steps in, to rise the speed, frequency or torque.

we just need to reduce that drop to minimal spec's or keep it on the lower percentage side.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo and others,

Ufo, feel free to move this post if there is a more appropriate place for it, but I think this might be helpful information.  I have worked on many protable generators so I want to share some informatiion about how they work.  There are two thing to remember about generators.  They generate voltage based on speed.  They generate current based on torque.  Portable generators whether gas powered or diesel or powered by some other source are all designed to produce 120 or 240 volts AC at 60 Hz if used in the U.S.  Now of course for the power to be 60 Hz the generator is going to have to run at a fixed speed or otherwise the frequency would be changing.  As I said they generate voltage based on speed so if we design one with the proper coils and number of poles we can have a generator that not only produces 60 Hz but at the same time produces 120 or 240 volts.  It is a great benefit that voltage is constant if we maintain a constant speed. 

So what happens when we add a load to the generator?  Well if you were to put a tach on the generator you would see that for a very short time the voltage and speed will drop because the added torque to produce the added current load will cause the engine to slow down.  But as soon as the governor of the engine kicks in it will open the throttle and cause the engine to come back up to the correct speed to maintain the voltage which again will also maintain the proper frequency of 60 Hz.  So speed equals voltage and torque equals current.

I have seen comments before that the Figuera Device is acting like a transformer but my own tests and the great testing being done by Ufo clearly show that increasing the speed of our magnetic field movement exactly duplicates the action of a generator.  The faster we move the field the more voltage we get.  What is going to be intereting to figure out as we go forward is what mechanism we might have to come up with to maintain the current we want since we do not have a torque load on our system.  It could be that when we get this system refined it may not need any compensation for torque as long as we don't overload the system.  That is what I am thinking will be the case.  But only further research will show if that is true.

Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Feb 13, 2024, 04:17 PMHi Ufo and others,

Ufo, feel free to move this post if there is a more appropriate place for it, but I think this might be helpful information.  I have worked on many protable generators so I want to share some informatiion about how they work.  There are two thing to remember about generators.  They generate voltage based on speed.  They generate current based on torque.  Portable generators whether gas powered or diesel or powered by some other source are all designed to produce 120 or 240 volts AC at 60 Hz if used in the U.S.  Now of course for the power to be 60 Hz the generator is going to have to run at a fixed speed or otherwise the frequency would be changing.  As I said they generate voltage based on speed so if we design one with the proper coils and number of poles we can have a generator that not only produces 60 Hz but at the same time produces 120 or 240 volts.  It is a great benefit that voltage is constant if we maintain a constant speed. 

So what happens when we add a load to the generator?  Well if you were to put a tach on the generator you would see that for a very short time the voltage and speed will drop because the added torque to produce the added current load will cause the engine to slow down.  But as soon as the governor of the engine kicks in it will open the throttle and cause the engine to come back up to the correct speed to maintain the voltage which again will also maintain the proper frequency of 60 Hz.  So speed equals voltage and torque equals current.

I have seen comments before that the Figuera Device is acting like a transformer but my own tests and the great testing being done by Ufo clearly show that increasing the speed of our magnetic field movement exactly duplicates the action of a generator.  The faster we move the field the more voltage we get.  What is going to be intereting to figure out as we go forward is what mechanism we might have to come up with to maintain the current we want since we do not have a torque load on our system.  It could be that when we get this system refined it may not need any compensation for torque as long as we don't overload the system.  That is what I am thinking will be the case.  But only further research will show if that is true.

Carroll

Thanks much Cifta!!

Your post is just perfect here!

That is exactly the way a typical generator works!!

As soon as we add a load (of course, depending on load amps demand) so in a high demand type, the generator tends to lock up, that is when gas engine needs to open its throttle...to compensate for the force required.

There is a way on Figuera to do that (rise amperage)...and all it is, is about the design of a specific coil(s) added to our build...

That part would be coming further, as I am working now on testing amount of excess power generated between Field 1 & 2 interactions...not secondary.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

This Test have nothing to do with the output generated by the Secondary, even though it is connected, not loaded, it is just connected to compare voltage values.

Ok, on the following video I will be showing the Working Voltage that Exciter System is able to Self-Generate, JUST between ALL Coils involved, meaning, the Seven Sequential Coils, plus the Two Fields on each end...

I do NOT have any specific secondary installed here, to refeed the exciter system...it is just between their back-forth Magnetic Field movement, that they self-generate this extra power.

I will make (not today though) a Diagram that shows connections on this test...but it is simple, and well explained on video.

One of the best discoveries I have just found out today...is that now, that I am extracting all that extra power this exciter system generates...All the Coils involved on Exciter System, now work VERY COOL!!

Not heating at ALL...even at 50 Volts Input...and the sparking at commutator was highly reduced, that you can barely see any small sparks.

So, IMO, I believe working with all that extra energy was the main cause they worked so hot previously.

On video also notice that this generated voltage at the exciter system, keeps rising as we rise the speed of the switch.

The Cap Bank I have is only 100V capacity, 1000uF, and I do not want to blow them...so I will be picking up tomorrow four new caps of 200V and 2200 uF (store only had 4) and then retesting to see the real V-Max at Exciter System.

Enjoy the video:




Regards to All


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

we certainly enjoy every bit, and thanks.

Your idea of ruling the secondary out to analyze the source of power and ability to self feed, looking for excessive or new energy as the result of this special non-mechanical displacement is very interesting.

The energy stored in your bank, can be found here https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/capacitor-energy, where 100v 1000uF equals 5 joule, 

which again equals 0.001389 Wh
https://www.inchcalculator.com/convert/joule-to-watt-hour/ 
and your current setup seems to reach that pretty fast, in seconds.

Not minding your two caps for now, your system input seems to be 100W, which you can divide down to the time it takes to fill your powerbank, in seconds, provided your input amparage is steady.

100/3600*secs spent (0.00277 Wh per sec)
Hopefully no mistakes on my side, and just delete if so or if disturbing, but doing some math, might save some time and money :)

Does your input amperage keeps steady at 2A in this your latest setup?

Fessor

Greetings UFOpolitics!

I don't want to interfere, but I highly recommend you to read  my article about "current, voltage, EMF and resistance (https://1-ua--hho-do-am.translate.goog/index/emf_current/0-41?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_enc=1&_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp)" in a closed circuit where the source of EMF is the generator phase.   


Battery or capacitors  after the diode bridge  good question, I'm exposing it on a friendly forum  (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived?p=513343#post513343).

To balance the energies in a DC circuit it is sufficient to have two ammeters, I have suggested a circuit that will work for your case:  video clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqrzNeIcFwg&t=6s) and post (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/blog-post.html).

Don't feel like you're imposing your standards, I think you'll find my information useful.

Quote

QuoteWhat is going to be intereting to figure out as we go forward is what mechanism we might have to come up with to maintain the current we want since we do not have a torque load on our system.  It could be that when we get this system refined it may not need any compensation for torque as long as we don't overload the system.  That is what I am thinking will be the case.  But only further research will show if that is true.

Carroll

Having a working load management system would be great but just making it work to charge a battery would be a giant leap forward.  Being able to charge a battery bank without a fuel powered generator or an intermittent source of power like the wind or solar would be a game changer. We already have the technologies in place for electric vehicles and home power banks.

greybeardmike

The solution might be easier than we think.
1. A voltage dependant resistor must be fitted at output to protect against self destruction of the device, this will work in conjunction with feed back control mechanism.
2. Feedback can be done using a split output and adding an isolation 1:1 transformer to feed the input the system, this means the more you draw with the load the more you increase the input until voltage dependant resistor will stop the device, preventing overload situation.

At least this is how I see the solution and probably all devices must be designed for certain range power output.

Grounding may help with introducing reference points, earth grounding or air grounding should work fine when proper designed for specific static or mobile applications.

Hello to All,

Thanks for all you posts, they all have very interesting points and suggestions, that I will carefully review each one of them...

As for the test yesterday, I will still have to review it deeper, and find a better way to show the real voltage the exciter system is generating.

Sometimes this positive double switching, with a common ground (negative), can fool us all...by splitting (+) power to AC Caps, amplifying it, because it takes place at different timings, and sending it to cap bank...regardless of any coils actions. So, we have to be careful and not misinterpret it.

So, I ran some more tests this morning that were pending from last night, and I found out that I do not need the extra four diodes (two on each side bank)...since the two diode bridges protect from power getting back to AC Caps and to coils.

Therefore, I am cleaning out the circuit...then I want to work with the Two Field Banks individually first.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I have done more testing about the Exciter System...and there was a LEAK from Input, on the video I have shown yesterday.

Like I wrote on my previous post, this double switching through resistance coils in between, plus depending on the brush positioning, can mislead your conclusions...and yes, it did it to me.

By just turning power on, and NOT moving the brush. The Caps start to fill up, of course they will never reach the 100+ Volts we saw on video without running the Fields back and forth...but somewhere around 36 to 40 volts will get leaked on caps from direct input.

Therefore, the voltage results shown on yesterday video, were not fully coming from the mutual induction from Exciter system.

I apologize for it.

I am moving on, away from this testing, and taking apart all the setup, to make the additional coils for Fields 1 & 2.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hello,

To specify the reason of the leak...

It took place through the Two Diodes Bridge Rectifiers, that I have installed on each AC Cap, the DC Input on both ends made it to the two Electrolytic Caps, as soon as I turned on the input power, without moving the switch.

When just the two AC Caps are installed, there are no leaks, when reading AC with a meter on both caps, AC dies as soon as the rotary switch is off...


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I was able to isolate the Exciter's Self Induction...

This time I only used two diodes from the AC Cap... opposite to positive and negative (not allowing input -/+ to go through) then added the E-Cap, then another set of diodes to inject to DC Input...so, input does not return to E-Cap.

And what happens is that it "chops" the peak Input Sine, into a type of chopped pyramid signal...which, of course drops output.

After reviewing all this, then I realize that Input signals are NOT a true AC sine, it only runs on the positive side...so, when processing it through rectifiers and diodes...it ends up chopping the main input signal.

Conclusion, to have a self-feeding generator, we do need to add a specific secondary(ies), which generates a true AC sine, like the inner secondary does.

What is a fact, is that by collecting these specific excess DC from the exciters, the whole system works better, cooler, and input signals are also cleaner.

I will try tomorrow to put a simple diagram about what I have explained above. Plus, I want to see that Signal (after is separated from Exciter System), in a Fourth Probe.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone!

Ok, I already made the video, upload it, plus the CAD Diagram related to Testing the Exciter System Mutual Induction, as I was able to isolate it from Input with just two diodes for each AC Cap Banks.


As you can see, I have connected a Forth Probe to read the signal coming out from one bank, through the diodes blocking the input...is Channel 4, darker blue.

Plus also an AC Meter to read the Output from Exciter's Coils.

And here is the video about this test:


As also on video is shown that when I connect both positives after diodes, the Positive only sine at fourth channel, becomes a full sine, because it is capturing the full reciprocating cycle, of the movement of Both Fields.

However, we have learned that this extra energy from exciters is NOT to be drained in any way or form, because it will cause for Exciting signal to drop to a chopped sine, reducing the main Secondary Output as well.

That is the reason why, I connected a small motor to just one of the AC Sine banks...to observe the results, as it chopped the input signal corresponding to this bank (point 1 contact on commutator).

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, I have decided to run a Second Video, in order to show clearer about the output from the Exciter System in detail.

First, each bank signal captured on Channel 4 MATCHES identically to that particular side bank being measured...or:

1- Point 1, Contact 1 on Commutator, attached to Field 1...is the Magenta Channel.

2- Point 8, Contact 8 on Commutator, attached to Field 2...is the Light Blue Channel.

So, when I set one of the specific points cited above, the Positive Signal from Channel 4 Peak (darker blue, bottom on screen), matches perfectly to the Input Sine Peak of the respective signal on that point.

However, whenever we jump (after diodes) JUST the two positives ONLY, then we get a perfect sinewave that goes from positive to negative, and still, ALL PEAKS, matches exactly with Both Input Signal's Peaks.. All this done WITHOUT affecting at all, the Output or the Exciting Signals.



Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, this short video, is about demonstrating what I have said on previous video, about what happens whenever we join Point 1 with Point 8 on the Two Banks directly.

Which is exactly as jumping commutator points 1 and 8.

That I said that whole system dies...because it will kill all magnetic back and forth, all unison, and everything will collapse...

So, on this video you will see that happening.

Which fully demonstrates that whenever I join, after the two diodes (back end of system), the two positives, and systems keeps running perfectly alive, like nothing ever happened...we are just joining the REACTION from all Coils on the Sequence, NOT directly from contact 1 and contact 8.



Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

its amazing, so very well done and thought out.

Your sine on C1 and C2 may be alternating voltage and not current, as it is feed purely from the DC side, dont you think?. Your scope shows a zero line, but don't you think it's the scope that misinterpreted AV as AC? Could be concluded with yet another diode preventing negative side/current, or am I misunderstanding your diodes and measures already done here?

In one video you state to still have a cap on the output side, Yellow secondary, correct? If so, why? and what would it look like without when it is now running so smoothly with low amparage on input?  I wonder if this cap is making a kind of positive interference with the total unison generation, hence, what's the effect without?

Finally, I still don't get the effect of your inputs fall to below zero, this effect I think is worth to investigate as well, kind of unforeseen falling momentum to below zero. Could it be? the scope that is having a hard time to detect actual zero for the various channels?

Fessor

Hi Fessor,

What you are seeing is what the Figuera device is supposed to do.  According to the theory about the device as you put voltage into the coils of one polarity they should induce voltage into the coils of the opposite polarity.  This can only happen if the coils are arranged in the proper oonfiguration.  And after many years of research UFO has finally found that configuration.  I have also tested may different configurations of coils.  And so far the only configuration that I found that works this way is Ufo's configuration of alternating coils.  By inducing voltage into the opposite polarity coils this reduces the input current required to keep the system operating.  Since all scope channels are connected to a common ground the scope is correctly showing that the opposite polarity coils do go below ground when being induced by the acitve polarity coils.  I hope this explanation helps some,

Respectfully,
Carroll

Hi Carrol,

thanks a lot, but you get me wrong :)

From day one of this thread I have understood the successive DC-field displacement is creating real AC in the secondary, the whole purpose yes.

What I am questioning is the AV or AC on the DC side, and more specifically if the zero-level is correct leveled across DC probes, or if current is actually reversing (negative voltage) - which if - is the first time I have seen such.

Your last explanation

"Since all scope channels are connected to a common ground the scope is correctly showing that the opposite polarity coils do go below ground when being induced by the acitve polarity coils.  I hope this explanation helps some,"

exactly, the common DC ground DC should however also be the common zero line across probes on DC side - which they seem not - or otherwise current is reversing on DC, which is what I am question.

Again thanks, for taking you time  :)

Hello everyone,

Thanks for your comments @Fessor & @citfta,

@Fessor: In order to understand this System, you need to "play it" in your mind at very slow motion...as you can NOT leave behind the magnetic fields generated as well.

Have in mind that we are not collapsing any coils on this Method, however, we are adding and subtracting resistance as the brush moves to the right and left of all the different coils chains or circuits of coils, therefore, also altering their currents.

Points 1 and 8, are the Maximum Peak Levels for both ends (Field 1 & Field 2), However, on the distribution, the balance is: max currents to one side, while the other side have all resistance of other coils, at the same timing, same momentum.
Passing by mid points of both points (1-8) on the right and left of commutator, (think about a Clock, where 12 is 1, 6 is 8, and those mid points are 3 and 9) those are the balancing points of the System, where the distribution (of resistance-currents [I/R]) is somehow evenly disbursed.

When you add max current to a coil, to then, suddenly, take it away, also to a max expression, by adding more resistance, it is a very close scenario to a collapse, without allowing for magnetic field to fully disappear. These fast-acting, opposite operations, brings along similar reactions seen on a coil collapse...and that is a partial and smoother Field "tendency" to a Reversal, also known as "coil reactance".

But you cannot evaluate this whole System as a single coil reaction, but a Group Chain of Coils (connected in series) acting at unison for short periods of time.

Then, besides analyzing electrical components mentioned above, like currents and resistance, you need to visualize the magnetic fields changes, as a 3D volume, generated by those active chains of coils on the sequences.

A better way to "visualize" all this, is to understand that brush positioning DIVIDES the Exciter System in Two Main Groups, to the right and left of the linear configuration.

Then, while one group (A) receives less resistance, hence more currents, the other group (B) receives more resistance and less currents...then as we visualize these two groups, we must understand that group A have a stronger and more expanded Magnetic Field than group B.

Now, the fact that Input Signals go below zero, is not a "misinterpretation" of Scope, it is also due to a Field Inertial Displacement or "Magnetic Inertial Movement"...a "momentum" that after field has developed a fast linear travel, all the sudden it is reduced to a minimal expression, ending up in passing (just a bit) its linear travel end.

The Energy I was able to capture yesterday, after the diodes, it is all due to the "coils reactance" on these partial reversals that I have mentioned before.

The Main Component of this System are the Magnetic Fields, all other "parameters maneuvering" we are doing here, like currents, resistance, inductance, reactance, number of turns of coils, geometrical design and positioning etc,...just work in order to generate THE Magnetic Field, displace it, move it, causing the Induction.

Hope this explanation helps you somehow to understand it better.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, so far the Electrical main parameter that we have been working on, or mainly generating at an increased value over input, is Voltage.

We still need to add a second component here, that I have not FULLY disclosed yet, that would be in charge to increase amperage above input.

I am saying "not FULLY disclosed" because, I have "partially" talked about it on the first part of this Topic.

Voltage increase is obtained based on a Progressively Sequential Actuation over time, of a series of coils in a longitudinal chain along the secondary length...fine, I have done that part so far.

However, amperage does NOT increase that way.

Amperage Increase needs a FAST and RADICAL Magnetic action, (NOT a progressively Sequential one, over time) from one extreme to the other of our Secondary longitudinal range, in the shortest, minimal time.

...a Force adding component, an Impact.

Now, we need to incorporate this Amp Increase Component, in order that it falls/keys, into our "Rhythmical Sequence"...and it must be also in a "duality" (work for both ways of the magnetic displacement) of our System.

I am working on that now, as I write here...

Please be patient...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: citfta on Feb 16, 2024, 05:16 AMHi Fessor,

What you are seeing is what the Figuera device is supposed to do.  According to the theory about the device as you put voltage into the coils of one polarity they should induce voltage into the coils of the opposite polarity.  This can only happen if the coils are arranged in the proper oonfiguration.  And after many years of research UFO has finally found that configuration.  I have also tested may different configurations of coils.  And so far the only configuration that I found that works this way is Ufo's configuration of alternating coils.  By inducing voltage into the opposite polarity coils this reduces the input current required to keep the system operating.  Since all scope channels are connected to a common ground the scope is correctly showing that the opposite polarity coils do go below ground when being induced by the active polarity coils.  I hope this explanation helps some,

Respectfully,
Carroll

Many thanks Citfta,

Yes, it has been many years of hard work...that finally render the results...and I am very happy (you have no idea how much) to share it with the World!!

Now, related to the ground for the Scope Probes, yes channels 2 & 3 are definitively using the same common ground from Input.

However, please note that the channel 1, yellow, its ground is connected to the other terminal of secondary...not common to Input ground.

As also, channel 4, because of the diode's connection, is blocking input ground, as it captures exactly the same signal if I just do not connect it to ground, like I have shown on my second video yesterday.

Thanks for all your excellent posts and contributions here my friend!!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Feb 16, 2024, 09:39 AM

Quote from: citfta on Feb 16, 2024, 05:16 AMHi Fessor,

What you are seeing is what the Figuera device is supposed to do.  According to the theory about the device as you put voltage into the coils of one polarity they should induce voltage into the coils of the opposite polarity.  This can only happen if the coils are arranged in the proper oonfiguration.  And after many years of research UFO has finally found that configuration.  I have also tested may different configurations of coils.  And so far the only configuration that I found that works this way is Ufo's configuration of alternating coils.  By inducing voltage into the opposite polarity coils this reduces the input current required to keep the system operating.  Since all scope channels are connected to a common ground the scope is correctly showing that the opposite polarity coils do go below ground when being induced by the active polarity coils.  I hope this explanation helps some,

Respectfully,
Carroll

Many thanks Citfta,

Yes, it has been many years of hard work...that finally render the results...and I am very happy (you have no idea how much) to share it with the World!!

Now, related to the ground for the Scope Probes, yes channels 2 & 3 are definitively using the same common ground from Input.

However, please note that the channel 1, yellow, its ground is connected to the other terminal of secondary...not common to Input ground.

As also, channel 4, because of the diode's connection, is blocking input ground, as it captures exactly the same signal if I just do not connect it to ground, like I have shown on my second video yesterday.

Thanks for all your excellent posts and contributions here my friend!!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello @citfta 

I am sorry that I have completely misunderstood your statement on above post (now in bold and underlined by me)
While I was referring to My System negatives, you were referring that All Scopes have a common ground on each probe clips.

Yes, you are absolutely right, so no matter if my Secondary Output is an isolated negative (for the System) the Scope will connect it with all other negatives from all other channels.

So, isn't this an interference? if we are trying to read an isolated signal (like our secondary output terminals) and compare it to another signal that is connected to a negative from a Source (like the exciting system)?

Thanks, and I apologize again.

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

Yes you are correct, I  was referring to all channels being connected to a common ground back at the scope end.  And it is possible they could interfere with the actual signal.  If you want to see if the primaries are actually going below the zero line you could just hook up one scope probe with only it's ground  and signal probe clips connected so that signal would be isolated from all the rest.  Unless your test proves otherwise I am still inclined to believe the "off" primaries are being driven below ground by the "on" primaries because of the mutual induction caused by the movement of the magnetic fields.  No problem with you missing what I meant.  A lot times I don't express myself well.  And I sometimes misread what someone else wrote too.

Take care,
Carroll

PS: I am on hold for a few days as I am waiting for some different microcontrollers.  The Arduino is just not fast enough to get my system up to the speed I believe it needs to be to work properly.  The new ones are supposed to be in next week. I did find some AC caps and that has cleared up my sine wave nicely.

I sometimes had difficulties when looking at several signals with a scope due to the requirement of the common ground. It would be nice if an oscilloscope had floating grounds for each channel but I have never seen one.
This makes me concerned about how the scope grounding connections may, under some circumstances, interfere with the circuit operation.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 14, 2024, 04:14 AMThe solution might be easier than we think.
1. A voltage dependant resistor must be fitted at output to protect against self destruction of the device, this will work in conjunction with feed back control mechanism.
2. Feedback can be done using a split output and adding an isolation 1:1 transformer to feed the input the system, this means the more you draw with the load the more you increase the input until voltage dependant resistor will stop the device, preventing overload situation.

At least this is how I see the solution and probably all devices must be designed for certain range power output.

Grounding may help with introducing reference points, earth grounding or air grounding should work fine when proper designed for specific static or mobile applications.

Hello Classic!!

Thanks for this great post!!

More specifically for this part:

Quote from: Classic on Feb 14, 2024, 04:14 AM2. Feedback can be done using a split output and adding an isolation 1:1 transformer to feed the input the system.

Yes, indeed!!, and it works superb!!

I ordered an Isolation Transformer 1:1 (P=115v:S=115v) and should be here next week.

However, I did some testing with other ratios transformers, and it works beautifully!!

I have Two APC's (Backup Power Supply) and off one of them I took out its transformer...and run my Figuera Generator secondary to its primary...and loaded the secondary of the transformer...and it was great, no voltage drop, as I was able to light a halogen at 1.9 Amps...running with 60V 2.0 Amps Input...while no decay (voltage drop) on the 120V @ Output from secondary at Figuera Generator.

I believe the best tool we can have to check our Generator Performance, is an APC...These things detect the minimal Input AC Voltage drop, in nano seconds, starts beeping and goes on Battery mode...

Now, if we can sustain an APC, then start loading off its multiple AC Outlets...and no beeping...then Game is Over guys!!!

I have added to my Figuera generator some steel plates at places where it needed it, and I had ZERO, none steel before...and still I have to make more plates to add them...and they go in-between Fields and Sequential Coils-Inner Secondary...It makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE!!


Now I completely understand why Pierre Cotnoir used a SEPARATE Transformer on his setup...to self-feed his system...

Point is that by using a separate transformer, we are not DIRECTLY DRAINING/WEAKENING our main sequencing field through the Inner Secondary...so, it can keep generating power without any disruption to the Field Displacement!!

However, the Side Secondaries (two Coils on each end) does not disturb field movement at all...just the ones located where the Spatial sequencing is taking place.

Next week is going to be definitive...so, hold on to your panties and socks... ;D

This is getting closer to an end People, a "Final Gathering"...

Regards

Ufopolitics

This isolation effect have been explained in first presentation of Don Smith ou device, even if just not enough details provided because people where interested in electrical action/interaction only and totally disregarded magnetic component.

This is why a permanent magnet can perform continuous work while retaining its own energy. We only charge once a specific alloy, which in turn store all the energy in magnetic component and electric conductivity is denied. This is why all the pressure (voltage) is trying to fill any other ferrous with this voltage.

So, if we put 1000 volts in an alloy with 3 elements, let's for convenience (iron, copper nickel), the iron will accept all the charge while copper will say where it can flow easy and nickel will say where not to flow ... this is resistance gradient which will allow the charge to continuously move in the compound with no exist path.

If we fail to observe presence of charge in a permanent magnet, we fail to understand how and why is working.
To "refill" a magnet we need to reapply a charge, as they lose their charge in time or by mechanical shock or termal shock.
A permanent magnet is a self resonant device in my opinion and this self resonance can manifest only as long as there is a charge. mechanical shock will introduce a vibration destroying self resonance and release the energy back into the medium from where belong, while termal shock will derange crystalline structure (canceling resistance gradient) and energy is also released into the medium from where belong.

If we calculate in energy quantity the input into a permanent magnet and quantify in mechanical energy output we can observe overunity.

The difference between a permanent magnet and electromagnet consist mainly in ability to switch on/off this effect.

Quote from: Classic on Feb 14, 2024, 04:14 AMThe solution might be easier than we think.
1. A voltage dependant resistor must be fitted at output to protect against self destruction of the device, this will work in conjunction with feed back control mechanism.
2. Feedback can be done using a split output and adding an isolation 1:1 transformer to feed the input the system, this means the more you draw with the load the more you increase the input until voltage dependant resistor will stop the device, preventing overload situation.

At least this is how I see the solution and probably all devices must be designed for certain range power output.

Grounding may help with introducing reference points, earth grounding or air grounding should work fine when proper designed for specific static or mobile applications.

Is a voltage dependent resistor what is called a varistor?  I thought those were used mostly for spike suppression.  Wouldn't a zener diode used to clamp the control voltage be a solution?  I'm not an electrical design engineer, I'm asking.  Maybe I'm just not understanding how it would be used.
greybeardmike

Quote from: greybeardmike on Feb 26, 2024, 10:15 AMIs a voltage dependent resistor what is called a varistor?  I thought those were used mostly for spike suppression.  Wouldn't a zener diode used to clamp the control voltage be a solution?  I'm not an electrical design engineer, I'm asking.  Maybe I'm just not understanding how it would be used.
greybeardmike

Hello Mike,

Yes, a Varistor is a voltage dependent resistor...on a Brushless Generator it is used to control the voltage on the rotating field coils connected in parallel with a diode.

In order that whenever Exciter Coil gets recharged when passing charging LC Circuit at Stator, it maintains a steady voltage therefore, exciter magnetic field will remain the same strength during operation.

The just one diode in parallel with coil and varistor, keeps currents running one way, hence a DC resulting on a steady (one direction) Magnetic Field.

Ufopolitics

Thanks ufo, that's the right answer indeed ... sometimes language barrier prevent me to offer better explanations unfortunately.

And this varistor as is called will act as a dynamic rheostat in this case, we do not need to prevent voltage spikes but to limit the output in what the whole system can manage. When resistance will stop energy flow system will slow down automatically, while offering full power delivered to the load to the limit which we consider safe for functioning of the device (no excess heat etc).

A zenner diode will stop the system, dynamic resistance adjustment will let it run in the parameters we chose. Energy must flow in the system all time ... exactly like in a permanent magnet. When a permanent magnet lose its charge is not anymore a magnet. In order to make it work again "re-magnetise" we need to insert the charge in it. If we need to re-insert the charge, the cost of re-inserting this charge will be higher than output in terms of energy ... this is what actully happen when we "consume" energy from the socket/grid !

Thanks guys, I think I understand it now.

Hello to All,

I will be receiving one of the Isolation Transformers I have ordered, today...this one is 2.15 Amps at Output...Pri 115v: Sec 115v, and have the option to switch I/O at 220v.
The second one is much better quality, higher VAC, it is an Instrument Isolation Transformer...of course, more expensive though.

I will be making the tests with cheaper one today, and uploading the video...probably late tonight or tomorrow.

However, We still do not have what we need from this System to run flawlessly...and that is the Resistance/Inductance versus the Field displacement.

In any typical AC Generator, the Exciter Fields ALWAYS run at Equal Resistances, Equal Inductances, therefore, the Exciter Magnetic Field NEVER DECLINES on its strength.

On the two Methods that I have presented so far, the Field, as it displaces, it gains in resistance by adding more coils on the sequence, then its Inductance decays, and so its strength is completely VARIABLE throughout the whole displacement process.

Actually is working the complete opposite of what is supposed to do...When Field Expands, on these types of systems, Field is supposed to GAIN in strength, or AT LEAST KEEP same strength...and is doing the opposite, losing strength.

This fact does not allow for a Robust generated Induction at Output, no matter the speed we displace fields...plus many other issues not performing as we would like.

So, next posts I will be disclosing a New Method (Method 3) that I have been trying to develop for a while...but was not able to find a way to make it work...

And the purpose is to achieve a STEADY/EQUAL Resistance and Inductance through the full displacement of the Magnetic Field, this will guarantee that Magnetic Pressures and Strength would be the same during Fields displacement.

Regards

Ufopolitics

This System, related to ALL Connections and operation of Positive Brush and Sequential Coils, is EXACTLY the same as Method 2, presented before.

The only variation on Method 3, is that Both End Fields are Segmented into Eight[8] Coils, which also runs on a synchronized sequence with the Seven [7] Positive Sequential Coils at center, Fields Sequence runs through a Second Negative Brush, which is exactly aligned (time wise) with Positive Brush.

This Model I am presenting here, the Exciter System is designed to run at 100 Volts and 2 Amps, and according to Ohm's Law, we need to keep a steady resistance of 50 Ohms.

Of course, at 50V Input, it will run with 1 Amp currents...and so on.

Please note that ALL COILS have the same resistance =6.25 Ohms...and geometrically, they are all RING Structured Coils like you have seen on previous methods on the sequential coils.

Main point on this design, is to ALWAYS have Eight Coils ON (50 Ohms), at each side of the Center of Positive Brush. (marked here with a Red Dotted Line plus two brackets to Right and Left, defining which 8 coils are ON).

By having a Center Positive Brush, and two End Negative contacts which closes circuit, this type of connection is PARALLEL, so it will result in around a +/- 50 Ohms @ its total resistance.

So, the Seven Sequential Center Coils (Armature) add a total resistance of 43.75 Ohms, therefore, they will always use -at least- one[1] Coil from either F1 or F2...

Again, I will be adding on this post later on...so, refresh screen to  see any changes on editing.

Next is a Commutator-Brush of the same Method 3

Regards

Ufopolitics 

Ok, I would like for you all to visualize this SWITCHING METHOD IN GENERAL, as the WIPER System on Vehicles Windshield wiper motors...it is a Back/Forth Swing.

So, on this System or Method 3, we have Two Wipers, one Positive and one Negative...and they work, NOT on the same plane (because if we have -/+ Brushes on the same plane, we will be reversing coils electrical polarity) ...And we do NOT want that!!

Positive and Negative brushes work at completely different levels, isolated, and each fed by two continuous slip rings -/+...


On this image, I have highlighted the connection terminals which are active according to Both Brushes positioned at Contact #4.

So, blue wires are negative and red are positive.

Please note that F1/8, F1/7, F1/6 on Left Field 1, plus F2/5, F2/6, F2/7, F2/8 on Right Field 2 are OFF...on this time-frame sequence. However, ALL Interaction Fields totaling 16 Coils are ON...

HOWEVER, during the WHOLE/ FULL CYCLE, NONE of the Coils involved on the CENTER MAIN INTERACTIONS, WILL NEVER Collapse or turn OFF.

On Fig below, I have rotated Brushes to Contact #1...and highlighted wire terminals ON, as you can see Field displacement...On this point Field 1 have ALL Coils power ON. (Retraction of Field 1)


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

I wanted to keep working with the 16 contacts Commutator design, as in Figuera's Generator...

So, the math to design your Method 3, is very simple...all you need to know what your Input (V&A) would be...to calculate your Coils resistance based on Ohm's Law and gauge you would be using.

I will be working with 23 gauge...ALL Coils of Exciter System plus Fields, like I have so far.

According to CIRRIS wire resistance calculator based on length of 23 ga is 307 feet for each coil:


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

I want to make a couple of comments that I hope will help with your research.  I believe you are putting too much thought into the resistance of your coils.  Resistance plays an important part when working with steady state DC.  However we are dealing with a constantly changing DC.  Although it is not true AC per say an inductor still reacts to it the same way.  I think you will have better results if you calculate the inductive reactance of your coils for the frequency you want them to work at.  I think you have a meter for checking inductance.  The  formula for calculating the inductive reactance is:

XL= 2 pi f l  Where f is the frequency in Hz and l is the inductance in Henries.  And XL of course is expressed as ohms.  So you just multiply 2 times pi times frequency and inductance to give you the reactive resistance of the coil.  The calculations will be off a little because they are based on a sine wave AC signal but they will still be consistant from one coil to the next as long as you keep the frequency the same.  I think also you probably will want to measure your inductance with all coils in place as the secondary and other primaries will affect the inductance.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS:  I got my new microcontroller going now but found some problems with my driver board so I am rebuilding it to give better isolation between it and the microcontroller.

Quote from: citfta on Feb 28, 2024, 02:13 PMHi Ufo,

I want to make a couple of comments that I hope will help with your research.  I believe you are putting too much thought into the resistance of your coils.  Resistance plays an important part when working with steady state DC.  However we are dealing with a constantly changing DC.  Although it is not true AC per say an inductor still reacts to it the same way.  I think you will have better results if you calculate the inductive reactance of your coils for the frequency you want them to work at.  I think you have a meter for checking inductance.  The  formula for calculating the inductive reactance is:

XL= 2 pi f l  Where f is the frequency in Hz and l is the inductance in Henries.  And XL of course is expressed as ohms.  So you just multiply 2 times pi times frequency and inductance to give you the reactive resistance of the coil.  The calculations will be off a little because they are based on a sine wave AC signal but they will still be consistant from one coil to the next as long as you keep the frequency the same.  I think also you probably will want to measure your inductance with all coils in place as the secondary and other primaries will affect the inductance.

Respectfully,
Carroll

PS:  I got my new microcontroller going now but found some problems with my driver board so I am rebuilding it to give better isolation between it and the microcontroller.

Hello Citfta,

Thanks, I will do the measurements, and yes, I do have an Inductance meter.
The point on doing this measurement (finding Inductive Reactance) is to then take it to Ohm's law, to calculate Current, correct?

And I am not putting too much thought on resistance than actually on Field behavior, the frequency we need to use is a constant, 50-60 hertz, and that is not going to change.

This Methods require, in order to work properly, for Field to -at least- maintain its strength during the sequencing...and that is not happening, even though it "looks" very strong.

The "ideal" operation would be that Field increase strength as it expands...and decrease strength as it retracts...it is happening exactly the opposite.

Amperage gain lays exactly on that part...on keeping Field strength at least the same throughout the displacement.

On this Method 3, all I use are mechanical means, to maintain field with same strength during operation. And only way to do that is by maintaining same resistance.

Anyways, this is not about resistance, or inductance...it is about Field Strength...and that is our goal.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, so I will be showing here a test I did with an APC (Backup System) Transformer...it has a very low resistance Primary and Secondary...like less than 2.0 Ohms on both sides.

As I have an Inline Ammeter connected to a Halogen Bulb, where it shows around 1.6 Amps...BUT, do not get excited, because it is only a 12V Halogen Bulb.

All the Figuera Generator shown here, is based on the Method Two, without any variation, except for adding plates in between Fields and Exciter Coils.

However, I wanted to show this video, since the other two transformers I have ordered they do not work as well as this one did.

I will be showing in the following post another video, where I explain where I am going to move into, on my next development.

Regards to all

Ufopolitics

Ok, here is the second video, which is actually an "introduction" to explain why I am changing the design of the Sequential Ring Coils into another geometry...same Method 2 Connections, all the same, except the Exciter and Secondary coils config.


Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, so here is the Basic CAD Diagram for this new design I would be building next...


As you all can see, the sequential Coils Connections to Rotary Switch-Commutator, are exactly the same as previously shown...and the same structure as Fields 1 and 2 design.

Only thing I am doing different here relates to the Exciter and Secondary Coils.

I would be fragmenting the Secondary into Eight [8] Coils, that would be connected in series to the main AC Output, and they are "sandwiched" in between the Sequential Exciting Coils.

Therefore, ALL the Exciter Coils are now DIRECTLY attached to the Center Inner steel core...so, NOT as a "floating Ring Coil" anymore.

Edit 1: Also, I am building these Exciters with Higher Resistance (actually Double) from 6.0 to 6.25 Ohms EACH Sequential Coil (before they were 3.2 Ohms each), same gauge 23 ...remember, I talked about reducing Input Amperage before...so, instead of rising Fields Resistance, I have decided to increase number of turns and resistance on Sequential Coils ONLY)

After exhausting all possibilities to add more steel to the ring design, and not achieving what we are all looking for...I made this decision.

I believe now, all exciter coils would build a much stronger sequentially moving field, which would transverse across all secondaries coils a much stronger induction.

With the Rings, we do get an Induction, but it is not High enough on Currents (Amperage) to fulfill a strong output.

As I mentioned on previous video, I will be using a thicker steel rod, since it would be a longer setup than the one shown before...so, I will have to start from scratch all exciter plus secondary coils...

And People, do not keep entertaining yourselves with math formulas and all kind of suggestions, as to why is that much Voltage Drop...please!!

This High Voltage drop takes place simply because the Output is NOT STRONG ENOUGH, related BASICALLY to AMPERAGE!!

Once we have a System, that increases Amperage at the same rate as Voltage, then we have a stable setup, which, when we have currents drawn from secondaries (on load), do not drop as much voltage.

Which BOLTS DOWN that we need a STRONGER INDUCTION, than the one I have shown so far. We would NOT get anywhere by reaching High Voltages which are very low on currents flow...or Amperage.

Now, this System DOES have the FULL Potential to get there...we just need the right Exciting-Secondary configuration...that's all.

Regards to All.

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

I must add that I would NOT be taking apart the existing setup I have shown so far...all coils would stay untouched.

I think I have enough 23-gauge wire to make all Seven new sequential coils, plus also have enough (1 full 10 pounds roll) of 20 gauge for secondaries...or 18 gauge.

I do not like to fully take apart ANY working setup...that was a "not to do" lesson... that I have learned a long time ago, trust me.

The new system would be completely built from scratch, including the steel core.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Dear Ufopolitics,
In a motor, there is a compact magnetic core on the outside where the stator coils are located. What would happen if you connected the outer steel plates of the Figuera generator to a steel pipe, so that the secondary coils are inside, near it?
Regards,
Spagiricus

Quote from: Spagiricus on Mar 04, 2024, 05:23 PMDear Ufopolitics,
In a motor, there is a compact magnetic core on the outside where the stator coils are located. What would happen if you connected the outer steel plates of the Figuera generator to a steel pipe, so that the secondary coils are inside, near it?
Regards,
Spagiricus

Hello Spagiricus,

Not much will happen...this is a different system than a Rotary Motor or Generator.

I have joined the two plates with a big Steel C Clamp...not even half volt came up.

But thanks for the suggestion!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

At some point, I had in mind to make this post...now I have the time.

As I consider this Post, the MOST IMPORTANT POST OF THIS WHOLE TOPIC/THREAD, since the following Analysis describes exactly what are the MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS between

ALL Sequential Coils related to Both Field Stators.

And if you just set one connection reversed, or not on the right place...or set a coil reversed, the whole System will NOT perform as expected. or may collapse. Just like in a very accurate electronic board connections.

On this image below, I have tried to best represent every single connection, as every single polarity, exactly as it takes place on the Real Setup:



First, it is mainly based on representing the Positive Input from the moving brush on the rotary system to the TWO COILS receiving this positive charge.

As you can see, when positive input enters circuit, it DIVIDES/SPLIT to Right and Left of point of entry, on this position it enters through Contact #5 and it initially Turns ON Coils #4 & #5.

HOWEVER, please note that Positive enters to START of Coil #4 while on Coil #5 it enters through Coil END.

This difference of terminals positive input generates TWO OPPOSITE POLES to be FACING EACH OTHER'S, OR A REPULSION, BUT ONLY ON THIS SPOT!!

That is the reason why I have ENCIRCLED this specific REPULSION INTERACTION.

NOW, from that CENTER REPULSION CIRCLE-POINT, to the Right and to the Left, there would be an INVERSED ATTRACTION CHAIN, all the way to meet BOTH Fields, #1 & #2.

NOW, this image only represents a "FRAME" on the SPACETIME DISPLACEMENT of the Sequence...

And you will need to "train" your minds, to mentally MOVE that CIRCLE to the Right and Left...always keeping that repulsion CIRCLE wherever the Positive Entry Point moves, PLUS also keeping BOTH ATTRACTION CHAINS.

As we move Positive Brush-Arrow to Contact #6 (Right) the Right Attraction Chain WILL REDUCE ITS SIZE...while the Left Attraction Chain will EXPAND ITS SIZE.

If we keep moving the Positive Brush all the way to Contact #8, then Left Attraction Chain would be EXPANDED to its MAX RANGE, while Right Attraction Chain would completely disappear, and Coil #7 and Field #2 will be facing on a Repulsion Interaction.

And of course, when Positive Brush returns all the way to Contact #1, the complete opposite function will take place...

Here, for Us, who believe on the Magnetic Field VORTEX CONFIGURATION, or like a "Corkscrew", like Minkowski (Hermann Minkowski (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_space), Einstein former Math Teacher) once mentioned on his paper about the "Theory of the Spacetime"...We believe on these types of Interactions like described above, we are not only just "varying the flux"...

But here, we are generating a series of Vortexes, which are opposed to Two, right and left groups, which increases and decreases over spacetime, greatly favoring our Output AC Sine Induced Wave to the Max Levels.

I hope that you all understood this post completely, because it is VERY IMPORTANT that whenever you start putting together your setup...you have all this info on mind.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: Please remember that ALL COILS, including BOTH Fields, are wound Counter Clock Wise (CCW) from the START point on FIRST LAYER!!

EDIT 2: Also realize that Both Fields 1 & 2, NEVER CHANGE their Magnetic Polarization.

Hello again,

Another way to help visualize these interactions is...

To imagine our Center Positive Input REPULSION CIRCLE as a 3D SPHERE...or like a Ball, that is bouncing between TWO WALLS, which are Both Fields F1 & F2 Inner Walls or Steel Plates.

The Fields play that exact role...to END these Magnetic Field Repulsion Sphere Bouncing...as You all observed on the movement of my ring coils back and forth video demonstration...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, so in order to keep understanding these Electro Magnetic Sequencing, I made this image, where Brush Positive Input is now at Contact #1...

And like I mentioned on my first post today, on the EDIT part, the Fields F1 & F2 NEVER CHANGE POLARITIES.


At this EXTREME-END Contact at Point 1, the Left Attraction Chain have completely disappeared (or as Ken Wheeler would have said...it went into "Voidance") Resulting from a full contact of two physical -in attraction mode- permanent magnets, once they have made contact and now are just one magnet, He refers as "Voidance"...except that here, that "disappeared" attraction chain, was followed by a Repulsion Ball.

While the Right Attraction Chain, has EXPANDED to Max Longitudinal Spatial range.

However, what is important here...is that now, between Coil #1 and Field #1 is taking place a REPULSION FIELD...other words, our "Bouncing Ball" or 3D Sphere has reached the "wall" from  a steady polarized Field 1...

This is the point where you observed on my video that the Group of Sequential Ring Coils "bounced" back when reaching this point, then going back to point/contact #2.

As is supposed to occur, the same Function takes place whenever Brush Positive Input hits Contact #8, but on the other extreme end, at Field #2.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

On these following posts I would be presenting two methods to connect Two Figuera Modules, or Two Magnetic Linear Pumps.

EDIT 2: Please note that on BOTH DIAGRAMS TO BE SHOWN BELOW, the Brush is positioned at CONTACT #1

I will be using the Circle-Arrows configuration shown on my previous post, that indicates the Field Displacement through Exciter Sequential Coils related to the commutation connections.

The following image shows two Modules connected in sync, meaning both running at unison.

As also showing their AC Output Connections.



Upper is MODULE 1 as lower is MODULE 2.

Commutator connections are 1-8 & 8-1 to Both Modules, therefore for 180º both module's Fields are displacing according to Magenta Circle-Arrow, as for the next 180º they both would be displacing opposite, or from 8 to 1.

Let's figure out, that both Modules Output 120VAC each, so, we have a main circuit that have both secondaries connected in Parallel to derive Two or more Outlets of 120VAC each with Higher Currents (Amps) than just generating out of one Module.
Ground connection is attached to the steel core frame of Both Modules.

Main point here, is to show that BOTH MODULES are "Pumping" at equal displacement of the Magnetic Fields.


Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, and here is a very similar image, HOWEVER, here the Commutation takes place in OPPOSITE SEQUENCES related to Both Modules.

This Means that Module 1 is following the same prior sequence, or from 1 to 8 at 180º.

But, Module 2 terminals to Commutator are opposite, or Module 2 Contact #1 is now connected to terminal #8 of Commutator, while Module 2, Contact #8 connects to terminal #1 of Commutator.

Then Module 2 would be moving Field from 8 to 1, while Module 1 Field would be displacing from 1 to 8 at the same timing.

Other words, these connections generate OPPOSITE "Pumping" for both Modules, as is represented on below image using the magenta Circle-Arrow for each.



This changes basically alters the 240VAC Output into a Two-Phase outlet, and considering A & B, as L1 & L2 respectively.

HOWEVER, this specific Diagram is showing a 16-contact commutator, which delivers each phase every 180º and NOT every 90º, like it should.

Eventually, my next Commutator would be of 32 elements, and there would be Four (4) "tempos" or Four Cycles of Eight Contacts each, every 90º, which will also reduce the frequency-speed to half than we are with 16 elements.

Basically, this Diagram is to show how easy we could change from a Sync (Single Phase) running generator Assembly, to an Off Phase (2 Phase) type, by just switching the connection terminals between Commutator to Generator's Modules.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

I have been studying your two methods for getting a 2 phase signal.  Your method one is NOT going to give you 220 volts.  Because both modules are in phase the 120 signals will also be in phase and there will be 0 volts between them.

Your second method with the 2 modules 180 degrees out of phase will give you 220 between the two 120 volt phases.  However you don't  need the t connection between the 2 120 volt phases and the 220 volt power.  220 volt doesn't use a neutral.  You only need the neutral if you want to use one side of the 220 volt power to give you 110 volt power.  But you are already doing that with the two 120 volt phases.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Mar 07, 2024, 11:25 AMHi Ufo,

I have been studying your two methods for getting a 2 phase signal.  Your method one is NOT going to give you 220 volts.  Because both modules are in phase the 120 signals will also be in phase and there will be 0 volts between them.

Your second method with the 2 modules 180 degrees out of phase will give you 220 between the two 120 volt phases.  However you don't  need the t connection between the 2 120 volt phases and the 220 volt power.  220 volt doesn't use a neutral.  You only need the neutral if you want to use one side of the 220 volt power to give you 110 volt power.  But you are already doing that with the two 120 volt phases.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Thanks Citfta,

Yeah, I knew there would be something wrong about the first method due to both modules being in phase...and the 240 VAC.

It is great to have you here Carroll!!

Now, according to what I have read, there are "two types" of 220-240 VAC, one for home use, which is single phase, with just two wires...as there are the 2 phase type, more commercial, for buildings, etc...now, I understand they do have three wires, A,B and Neutral...

Once I connected a two phase 220 VAC work bench...and I will look for those diagrams on the way they connect...as I also remember that by just swapping the two A,B wires it changed the main induction motor direction...

Anyways, the main purpose of these two posts is to show we can connect the terminals between commutator and generator to move fields in sync or opposed, and have two different results...and now, thanks to you, we can define which one is better.

Thanks

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi again,

Yes house wiring uses single phase 220 with a L1, L2 and a neutral.  Between L1 and L2 just like in your drawing we get 240 volts.  Between either L1 or L2 and the neutral we get 120 volts.  Your method 2 should work very well as a home generator as most water heaters and electric ranges use 240 volts.

In commercial buildings they use 3 phase AC with L1, L2, L3 and neutral.  Here we get 208 volts from any phase to any other phase because the phases are actually 120 degrees apart. And we still get 120 from any phase to the neutral.  But most industrial and commercial motors run on 3 phase using all 3 phases and no neutral.  And as you have correctly recalled you can swap the leads going to any two phases and reverse the motor direction.  3 phase motors are much more efficient than single phase motors and easily reversed.

Take care,
Carroll

Quote from: Ufopolitics on Mar 07, 2024, 12:03 PMOnce I connected a two phase 220 VAC work bench...and I will look for those diagrams on the way they connect...as I also remember that by just swapping the two A,B wires it changed the main induction motor direction...

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, I found the above installation I was mentioning...and it was about a Three Phase (NOT about a two phase, like I mentioned before above) 220 VAC...the image that I did for the Manual I wrote (in Spanish) is below:


Anyways, is a completely different setup...we are not there yet... ;D

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Thanks again for that last post citfta

And I have another question @citfta:

On the Sync Phase Modules, they will output 120VAC each, and so, if we connect both secondaries in parallel, what will happen to Amperage?

Because normally whenever we connect Two Sources (like two batteries) in Parallel, we get same voltage, however, currents increase, correct?

I have to rectify that post and image, and only advantage I see so far on that Sync setup, is that we get two Isolated 120VAC outputs if we draw from each separately.

Anyways, all this needs to be tested in real time...so, I will continue the build.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

Yes if you connect them in parallel the current should double while the voltage remains the same.  So this gives you a couple of ways to configure your system for more current if you use method 1 or more voltage if you use method 2.

Later,
Carroll

Quote from: citfta on Mar 07, 2024, 11:25 AMHi Ufo,

I have been studying your two methods for getting a 2 phase signal.  Your method one is NOT going to give you 220 volts.  Because both modules are in phase the 120 signals will also be in phase and there will be 0 volts between them.

Your second method with the 2 modules 180 degrees out of phase will give you 220 between the two 120 volt phases.  However you don't  need the t connection between the 2 120 volt phases and the 220 volt power.  220 volt doesn't use a neutral.  You only need the neutral if you want to use one side of the 220 volt power to give you 110 volt power.  But you are already doing that with the two 120 volt phases.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Thanks again Carroll,

Ok, Post#210 (Setup on Sync Phase) has been edited/Image has been replaced, to output only 120VAC, and not 240VAC, as also all editing on text has been corrected.

Only advantage that I see on this setup of connections, is to have higher currents at same voltage.

The EDIT NOTE I wrote it at the beginning of post.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Also Post # 211 has been edited, replacing image without the "T" Connection to Neutral at 240VAC, we do not need it, unless it is to draw 120V from either L1 & L2.

Thanks Citfta!!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hola ovni

Por si os puede servir de algo quiero recordaros este vídeo que hice hace muchos años y que seguro habréis visto, en él utilizo como últimamente dos conjuntos Figuera, pero ambos unidos por sus núcleos externos, en él podréis comprobar una mejora notable de la inducción y además tiene la ventaja que las bobinas inducidas e inductivas pueden tener cada una en un núcleo independiente, aparte de ser de 90 grados, lo que "podría" ser una ventaja para mitigar la ley de Lenz...
Saludos desde España

Quote from: hipermotor on Mar 08, 2024, 06:40 AMHola ovni

Por si os puede servir de algo quiero recordaros este vídeo que hice hace muchos años y que seguro habréis visto, en él utilizo como últimamente dos conjuntos Figuera, pero ambos unidos por sus núcleos externos, en él podréis comprobar una mejora notable de la inducción y además tiene la ventaja que las bobinas inducidas e inductivas pueden tener cada una en un núcleo independiente, aparte de ser de 90 grados, lo que "podría" ser una ventaja para mitigar la ley de Lenz...

Saludos desde España

Hola Hipermotor!!

Por supuesto que esa prueba nos sirve de mucho!!

Es genial como has enlazado las polaridades de ambos módulos, para lograr eso sin cambiar la polarización eléctrica sólo necesitamos embobinar a favor del reloj, todas las bobinas del segundo módulo.

Aparte de alejar mucho más ambos ensamblajes, más bién veo que una configuración en Toroide sería ideal.

Saludos amigo!!

Ufopolitics 

QuoteAparte de alejar mucho más ambos ensamblajes

Si y quizás colocando en ellos la bobina inducida (estator), por eso digo que quedarían a 90 grados, Inductoras e inducidas...

Saludos

Quote from: hipermotor on Mar 09, 2024, 07:09 AMSi y quizás colocando en ellos la bobina inducida (estator), por eso digo que quedarían a 90 grados, Inductoras e inducidas...

Quote from: hipermotor on Mar 09, 2024, 07:09 AMYes, and maybe setting the inducer coil, that is why I say that would be at 90º, Induced and Inductors

@hipermotor:

Los Campos Magnéticos son puramente LINEALES, en los Ángulos de 90º o más agudos, existen pérdidas, si es que colocamos el inducido y el inductor teniendo que sobrepasar esos ángulos para hacer su trabajo.

Es por eso que la configuración Figuera (que es estrictamente linear) tiene el éxito que hemos visto en mis métodos.

Las geometrías de curvas suaves, como en un Toroide, son mucho más aceptables. Ó usando esos ángulos sólo como conductores internos de retorno para el circuito magnético, como vemos en un transformador...o como vimos que hiciste en tu video.

Saludos

English:

Magnetic Fields are purely LINEAR, at angles of 90º or more radical, there are losses, if we set the induced and the inductor having to pass those angles to do their work.

That is the reason Figuera´s configuration (that is strictly linear) have the success we have observed on my methods.

Soft curves geometries, like a Toroid are more acceptable. Or using those angles only as conductors of the magnetic field circuit, like we see on a transformer...or like you did on your video.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,

This post is used intentionally to end this page and allow a full new page for the next post...

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

On page 42, post #207, I have shown the Polarities for a Module I am working on now (image shown below):

And considering BLUE is NORTH as RED is SOUTH.


On image above I have shown also the polarizations based on wound ALL CCW Coils.

And as a result, we can see the Repulsion is a NORTH BASED FIELD, encircled by the magenta circle, as it also shows TWO ATTRACTION CHAINS which are OPPOSITE to each others.

Or a Left Chain as: S/N-S/N-S/N-S/N-S/N

And a Right Chain as: N/S-N/S-N/S-N/S

The FULL LINEAR MAGNETIC ARRANGEMENT would be:  S/N-S/N-S/N-S/N-S/N>REPULSION FIELD<N/S-N/S-N/S-N/S


Now, on page 43 post# 210 & 211 I have shown the adding of a second module#2, but ONLY about the electrical connections between commutator driver and Coils connections, as also the secondaries Output Terminals.
On those TWO IMAGES, I have shown TWO CONNECTION METHODS, which are:

1- With SYNC PHASE

2- With OFF PHASE


But, I have NOT shown the Magnetic Polarizations on that Second Module would be...for better performance, as for further joining the Steel Cores between both Modules.

So, basically this is what this post relates to:


On image above, I am showing the Second Module, or Module#2 (M2) with ALL its respective Polarizations.

If you all notice, ALL interactions are exactly the same as Module#1, except that M2 have ALL Polarities reversed.

Still, it is based on a CENTER REPULSION, but this time is a SOUTH FIELD REPULSION (not a North as in M1)

And of course, ALL ATTRACTION CHAINS on M2 are also Opposite when comparing to Module 1.

And the ONLY way to achieve these results, is by WINDING ALL COILS ON MODULE 2, CLOCKWISE OR CW.

This way we would NOT be changing ANY of the Connections as shown on Module 1 and Commutator, they all would be exactly the same way.

Now, if we look at the image ATTRACTION CHAINS between M1 & M2 on BOTH SIDES, Right and Left...They ALL MATCH or COMPLEMENT with each other's...

And then We could add a JOIN "C" STEEL MEMBER on the Right and Left, attached to the center steel core of both modules.

On this image I have shown both Repulsion Fields as ON PHASE, for sake of simplicity for comparison between both...However, these arrangement would work much better if we use the OFF PHASE TERMINALS CONNECTIONS.

Again, I could be editing this post anytime...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, so, I think you will now have a better view and understanding, once we set these magnetic interactions to displace OFF PHASE, like shown on below image:


On Image, the Module 1 North Repulsion Field has moved to the extreme LEFT, represented by blue arrow with an "R" in blue up front.

The complete opposite took place at Module 2, where South Repulsion Field has moved to the RIGHT, represented by Red Arrow with "R" in red at front.

Now, on previous presentation of Module 1 ALONE, (Page 42 Post 209) I wrote that LEFT Attraction Chain literally "disappeared" at this exact position of North Repulsion Field...

Well, now, because of side steel member on left, that attract chain FORCE, travelled through that C Steel Member, REINFORCING the displacing Attract Chain at LEFT of Module 2, when its SOUTH REPULSION FIELD is moving to the extreme RIGHT, and that Attract Chain is EXPANDING.

The same exact operation is taking place on the RIGHT ATTRACT CHAIN at RIGHT of Module 2...which, instead of "disappearing"...is now converted into a FORCE which travels through RIGHT C STEEL Member, to the Module 1 Expanded Attract Chain.

The Magenta dotted arrows inside BOTH C Steel Members, show the travelling path for both Modules MAGNETIC EXCHANGE OF FORCES.

Please have in mind that for reasons of reduced size of images, BOTH OPPOSED Repulsion Fields (North and South) are travelling TOO CLOSE to each other's and realize that at certain point in time they will cross too close.

So, this is NOT GOOD!!, Both Repulsion Fields travelling back and forth MUST BE SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER'S in order they would NOT INTERFERE OR DISRUPT EACH OTHER'S, keeping both displacements as TWO INDEPENDENT PATHS AND AWAY DISPLACEMENTS.

THEN figure these Steel Core Configurations and Geometries, more likely into a SQUARE SHAPE type, and not in a RECTANGULAR SHAPE like are represented here.

The "ideal" Geometry would be like an Elliptical or Round Toroidal Structure...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, due to some questions previously, I will try to explain it better...

On the 1908 Figuera Patent, He shows SEVEN PAIRS of EXCITERS OR PRIMARIES, and SEVEN SECONDARIES.

I call each of the TWO EXCITERS PLUS ONE SECONDARY AS "MODULE", including, of course, ALL sequential Coils as the "R BOX".

Meaning, that Figuera had, on his 1908 Patent design, a total of SEVEN MODULES.

The reason on my latest posts that I have been showing all connections for TWO MODULES, is to have TWO Sources of Electrical Power, as is: 120VAC plus 240VAC.

In order that this Assembly of Two Modules, could be used to supply enough power to fulfill the requirement of a Household.

The same way a Home Generator comes with these Two Outlets (120-240VAC).

Now, on the "Technical side" Two Modules pumping at OFF PHASE, will allow a Second Pair of Secondaries, which would be using BOTH ACTIONS from the Two Modules alternately.

Plus the Output in General, would be more robust, than just one Module.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I wanted to show BOTH frames with the TWO PEAKS, on the OFF-PHASE Setup in one Post, so you could see magnetic flows, attraction chains polarizations, etc.


And here the OPPOSED Frame:


I will add some comments about it tomorrow...

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone,

Ok, here is a short video as an Update of where I am right now, on the making of this new structured Sequential-Secondaries Coils:


Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, I promised to add some more explanations about my latest post on the Two Modules OFF PHASE...BUT, before I went there, I wanted to explain some more details, about the SUCCESSFUL MAGNETIC ALGORITHM that I have been developing here.

For that I will upload (again) the same image I had shown at the beginning post of prior page:



And the reason why I have chosen this image, is because the Repulsion Field "Sphere" is around the CENTER of whole length of steel core...SO, BOTH ATTRACTION CHAINS ARE VISIBLE FOR THIS ANALYSIS.

And first, I want you to JUST observe BOTH FIELDS, F1 & F2...

You will realize BOTH FIELDS ARE FACING A NORTH POLE to each other's...correct?... So, we can conclude that BOTH FIELDS are OPPOSING or on REPULSION to each other's, right?

Ok, now look at LEFT ATTRACTION CHAIN...ALL the way to the REPULSION POINT, LAST COIL ON LEFT, which is Coil # 4.

And here you MUST realize that ALL the Left Attract Chain is ALIGNED MAGNETICALLY to FIELD 1.

Or we could also say that LEFT ATTRACTION CHAIN is just "AN EXTENSION" of FIELD 1, all the way to Coil #4...

As the SAME, EXACT STRUCTURAL GEOMETRY, takes place ON FIELD 2, but REVERSED.

If we now look at RIGHT ATTRACTION CHAIN, we will notice, it ALIGNS MAGNETICALLY to FIELD 2.

Or we could also say that RIGHT ATTRACTION CHAIN, is just "AN EXTENSION" of FIELD 2, all the way to Coil # 5. (of course, looking from Right to Left Now).

Then you need to realize that as we move our Repulsion Field Sphere, right or left, these attraction chains will expand or reduce its lengthwise (or longitudinal) size...

And here I want to make an even simpler comparison to what we are doing here...and I need your "imaginative minds" to open up to max levels... 8)

Imagine we are holding TWO STEEL Bar Magnets, and facing them through their North Poles, or in Repulsion...within a hollow AND FIRMLY HOLD, long coil...then we move these two bar magnets AT UNISON, trying to ALWAYS KEEP the SAME GAP DISTANCE between the Repulsion Spot...without touching them, and keeping both bars at same horizontal levels.

So, more or less, this is what we are doing here...except that the two Magnets, are just the Two Virtual Magnetic Fields, facing each other's on REPULSION...while the Steel Bar, is just one...and it does not move at all.

I am trying for you all to have a very clear VISUALIZATION on this working Magnetic Algorithm, at the time to check your setup magnetic polarities.

Besides, these explanations and comparisons were required before I move on to a Two Module behavior and further Magnetic Functions.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, so now on this image and according to my previous post explanation, plus comparison "paradox"...we now have positive brush at contact #1...



Here we see from Field 2 (F2) that the Magnetically aligned Right Attraction Chain have EXPANDED to its MAX Value, all the way to Coil #1.

And on the Paradox of the Two Bar Magnets on Repulsion, we have moved all the way our Right Bar towards the Left of our imaginary -and stationary- hollow coil assembly...

Then, what happened to our Left Bar Magnet?

Our Left Bar Magnet, we have "pull it out", however, NOT ALL THE WAY!!...because we still have its North END POLE TIP or FACE, as being FIELD 1 (F1) inner North Pole face.

And here I will try to expand a bit on what is going on, at this particular position on F1, from the Magnetic Field point of view.

As we expand F2 all the way from Right to Left side of assembly...on the South END of Field 1, there is a "RUSH" of Magnetic Forces, which eventually it is NOT CONTAINED ONLY within the Physical embodiment of Field Coil and core...BUT it travels beyond into Space.

The same, exact function takes place whenever FIELD 1 is expanded all the way to the Right of assembly (Positive Brush at Contact #8)...a RUSH OF MAGNETIC FORCES IS ACCUMULATED on the South Pole and core of F2 END.

This explanation is very easy to be proven, if we add Two Extra Secondary Coils, as "READERS" or as "MEASURING TOOLS", behind each South Pole (Red ends) of BOTH Fields 1 & 2....we will see a heavy Induction Force on these two coils.

Plus, if we "SCOPE" this AC Sinewave output, from these two extra secondary coils, we will see its Peaks coincides exactly with the two peaks of the Sequential end Points, 1 & 8, like I have done before.

And here lies the reason why we need TWO MODULES attached by the ends of their Two Fields (F1 & F2), and that Second Module needs to be EXACTLY OF OPPOSITE POLARIZATIONS as Module 1.

Simply because once we have Both Modules, attached by a C STEEL MEMBER on each side, we will have a COMMUNICATING MAGNETIC NETWORK, whenever Repulsion Fields travel to the extreme ends on both modules. Then these Two Extra Forces will have a PATH to travel within the Steel C Members.

Ok, and now, we are ready and can move on to the Two Modules FULL Explanation on Magnetic EXCHANGES...

Regards

Ufopolitics

I want to add some Electrical Facts, that are taken place exactly at these TWO CONTACT POINTS 1 & 8, where BOTH FIELDS, 1 & 2 respectively, have their Max Magnetic Rush Outwards, through their end Poles (South)...Due to this RETRACTION STAGE.

And that is, that at these two points, 1 & 8, is when Field Coil being RETRACTED, receive MAX CURRENTS, while the other Field, which is FULLY EXPANDED, have all the resistance added from all Sequential Coils being energized, therefore, expanded fields would have less currents (amperage).

This amperage gain contributes to those "MAGNETIC RUSH FORCES" be even greater, at exhaust points at the very end polarization and steel core.

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Ok, so here is a FULL ASSEMBLY of a Dual Module System, connected for OFFSET PHASES:


And I believe that after previous Posts, you now will be able to understand it better, where I am getting at...

For example, I have set a Second Pair of Secondaries, yA & yB on those Two "C Steel Members" respectively, as they will be collecting that Magnetic Force rushed out Pressures, every time Repulsion Fields reach the extreme ends (points 1-8) in Both Modules.

On this image-frame, I have named both ends of Out Exhaust Pressure Forces on F1 and F4.

However, on other two opposed extremes, there is a Negative Pressure developed, or a "Magnetic Suction Force" on Module 1 at F2, and on Module 2 at F3.

We can read both secondary coils (yA-yB) output, independently or in series (as connected on image) collecting an AC output from Terminals 1 & 2 within a circle.

Again, I may be adding later or tomorrow to this post...

Have a nice evening.

Ufopolitics

Hello All,

Ok, so here is the OPPOSED DISPLACEMENT on the OFF PHASE System of Both Modules 1&2.



And obviously, ALL FUNCTIONS are REVERSED here, related to previous image, because Both Repulsion Fields have traveled to the opposite extreme end.

as the Positive (Pressure Forces) and Negative (Suction Pressures) also have reversed.

Here on Module 1, Field 1 South End is creating a Negative-Suction Force, as F2 South End is Exhausting this Magnetic Force.

As opposite also takes place on Module 2, where FIELD 3, North End is Exhausting a Positive -Pressure Force, while FIELD 4, North End became a Suction-Negative Force.

And now the Visible Magnetic Attraction Chains are the ones that on previous image "disappeared"...or were compressed into Field Coils.

These Two Extreme Positioning of Repulsion Fields (shown on these two images) takes place every full cycle of 360 degrees of driver rotation.

I wanted to have these Two Images in Posts, next to each other's for comparison.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Ok, I have disclosed this Dual Module System plus its Analysis, basically for FUTURE PROJECT BUILDS.

However, we need to PERFECTION FIRST a Single Module, BEFORE we start the Duplication Building Process of the Second Module.

We need to achieve first on a Single Module, its capability to Self-Start and keep running from its secondaries, or a specific group of them*.

We need to have a low voltage drop, Single Module, whenever we add loads.

A Two Module System is going to DUPLICATE our Outputs, plus, it will give us another Output Source, which is dependent only on the peaks from both Repulsion Fields displacement.

* We could add to our single Modular System, two extreme end secondaries, to fulfill the self-feeding, or select a specific group within the eight secondary coils, located in between the sequential coils.


The best way to view a Single or a Dual Module System, is to compare it to a Hydraulic Pump...

Where our "Piston's Head" would be our Repulsion Field, as Both Attraction Chains would be the Push-Pull Arms, that assist on displacing this repulsion head back and forth.

As in any Hydraulic Pump, every time the Piston travels in one direction, it carries in front of its Head, the Pressurized Liquid, as the further this travel, the more pressure it builds.

Also, on this directional travel, behind the piston head is the Negative or Suction Pressure (vacuum), normally used to refill chamber with more liquid, passing through the one-way valves.

One Module System is just like a "Single Piston Pump"...and a Dual Module System is a "Dual Piston Pump".

Normally a two-piston pump would require double the torque (force) plus speed, to get pump to build required pressure at its two pistons high pressure chambers-outlets, than a Single Piston Pump would require.

On this Figuera Generator, running a Dual Module System, or a two Piston Pump, would NOT require more torque, or more speed...as the output still would be double.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

So, back to our single module construction, I want to be able to measure the Output from EACH Secondary Coil, within the Sequential Exciting Coils...as also, to be able to measure groups within.

These measurements, will give me the exact areas, where induction is stronger or weaker...then I could build a Graphic of Induction versus Linear Displacement, and proximity to Fields reactions, etc,etc.

Plus, the way I am building this Setup, allows me to easily take it apart, to Replace Secondaries Coils only -while leaving connected all sequential coils- by a coarser group, say 18 gauge, instead of 20, and read results...load them, etc..

So, I have put together a simple graphic, about these measurement points to each secondary coil, or groups thereof, at certain areas:


Ok, so, terminals 1 and 9 will give us a Total Output of all series connected secondaries...

And from here we can make all kind of measurement tests...and of course, while system is running and generating a Total output, which we are already measuring on 1-9.

Also, an "On-Load" test, will tell us which group's positioning is outputting higher parameters, like voltage and amperage...as which is dropping more V or A, of the whole set.

We will have a total of Eight [8] Secondary Coils here...So, say we measure the CENTER FOUR COILS, or from contact 7 to Contact 3...to compare them with other Four Coils (2+2 closer to Fields 1 & 2) by adding ( [1-3]+[7-9]) or in series, to compare with the four located at the center.

Of course, we could have a total of 16 terminals, two for each secondary coil...and easier to make specific connections and measurements that way...I just made this image to simplify/reduce the connections to only 9 total.

Anyways, these are tests I will be conducting, once I have a finished setup.

I am posting this, basically for those building this setup, so we are on the same page when it comes to results.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, so here is the new Rotary Switch, Top View Image, I am making out of the Three (3) Inches Diameter Copper tubing...that I have mentioned before.


It will have a total of 32 contacts/elements, so it will make Four Strokes of our "piston" displacement every 360º or every cycle.

I have named the Four Quadrants as A, B, C & D (in rotation sense order), where each sequential row from 1 to 8 would be: 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A....8A for Quadrant A...and so on.

Every Quadrant is set to 90º, as we can see that Quadrant A is an Ascendant sequence (Green Arrow) from 1 to 8, as Quadrant B is a Descending Sequence (Red Arrow), from 8 to 1.

Followed by Quadrant C also an ascendent sequence (1-8) to Quadrant D descending from 8 to 1.

This way our small motor only needs to reach around 1800 RPM's, in order to generate the 60 Hertz required on our Output AC Sinewave.

We will also have a wider range to accelerate whenever load requires a "step up" on frequency, say from 1800 to 2400 (not like before where we needed to step up from 3600 to 4200).

However, on image above, the Two East-West Hemispheres (E-AB & W-CD) are NOT connected in between them, in order to have just Eight [8] Contacts Output to our Single or Dual Module(s) that comprehends ALL Contacts.

So, on image below the two East-West Hemispheres (AB-CD) are Jumped or Bridged, deriving on a Single Eight Contact connector (shown on Image Lower- Right).


On the event that we connect Two Modules at OFF PHASE, we will just connect Module 1 normally, or 1 to 1 and 8 to 8, and Module 2 reversed, or 1 to 8 and 8 to 1.

Now, speaking based on my experience whenever running these Systems, I have noticed the Magnetic Field Displacement was "too slow" even getting the Rotary Switch to border the 3000 RPM's with my 16 elements commutator...As there is a "Ratio-Exchange" difference between a Fully Rotary System, where we have -at least- Two Poles Exciter System, versus a Reciprocating System, where we have only One Piston Stroke, plus having only Two Strokes per Cycle, per Module.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

And I am asking myself...Where are ALL the Builder's here?

You have no questions or no doubts?

Because if that is so, then it is great!!, it means you have understood everything perfectly well...But if it is not the case, then I am open to hear your comments here!

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

That's lookiing good.  I am really busy right now with some yard work and other things.  Your new idea looks great.  I need to wind some more coils to make a new build with the secondaries between the primaries like your newest design.  I can easily change my number of coils and firing order since I am using the microcontroller for my pulses.  So that will save me lots of time since I don't have to make a new commutator.

Take care,
Carroll

Hello to All,

Ok, so, here is the video on the latest update on my build:


I also have created a New You Tube Channel, specifically for OUM: Overunity Machines YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPNGHwZQ18jh2XY8mcgkzYg)

I want to keep this Channel for ALL Builder's on OUM, to be able to upload their videos there. To do that, You will need a gmail account, in order that I set you as an Editor, to be able to upload videos there.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello UFO!
It's Dmitry! Im from Transdnistria! My dream is to construct Free Energy Power Plant for my state for 100 Mega Watt. And I want to develop Fuelles Unit from 10W - to 100 MW. And I know Solid Works and a little bit Maxwell 2D.
My wish is fueles unit without moving part. And i have programm for draw shemes - Splan 7.0

And I Want to ask You about your sucsess in constructing Free energy Generator Figuera, it's work??? And I want to construct Generator Figuera in Your cloused group!
I have the opportunity to order a core for your plan of Generator Figuera made of electrical steel in any form. This core are made from electrical cteel and cut with a laser on the ЗАО Electromash.
I can add a sketch for one sheet of all core.
Here is a sketch for one sheet.


I can also make a frame for the coils printed on a 3D printer and placed on the core.

And I need to know the configuration for the all coils.

Regard.
Dmitry.

(https://imageup.ru/img258/4781860/2.jpg)

Here is a sketch in mm for core made from slectrical steel. 0.5 mm width.
(https://imageup.ru/img212/4781864/snimok.jpg)

Here is a several core made from several sheets. 

Hello Diplomiti2011 and Welcome to Overunity Machines!!

I already got you on the Builder's Group.

But hold on, easy, slow down!!...I will soon show my new configuration for the Exciter Coils and Secondaries when I finish winding all coils.



Thanks

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Here is an update video about my build:


Like I have mentioned on video...I am not that happy with the way this new design has turned out SO FAR, basically related to voltage drop...
However, I have not fully tested a completed secondary set of eight coils.

But, related to all the tests I have done so far, with different coils, then comparing to the other design on Ring Sequential Coils, it is not completely satisfactory.

And this is the way this development works...some setups work superb from the beginning, the first test...and others simply do not.

There are major setbacks on its design, like room for secondary(ies), compactness, and basically the Field it develops on the center sequence coils, due to its higher resistance it is not as great as previous design, so, induction is weaker there.

Induction is greater between the two fields (F1 & F2) and end sequential coils, like I have mentioned on video.

I am making a second coil of 18 gauge to run a test to upload it, probably by the start of next week.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello everyone,

Ok, so after hours of running a full check up on the whole setup...I finally found the specific issue I was having with one of the sequential coils groups, (Point 1, 2, 3, 4) that I had the magenta channel connected to point 1. And it was that the peak on the scope sinewave, was much lower than other group [Point 8].

And here is a short video that I highly recommend to all builder's making or having a commutator based rotary switch driver, to make this test, before even starting to connect to your generator.

So, this is the main reason the previous tests I did on this new design were terrible!!



Regards

Ufopolitics

Quote from: greybeardmike on Apr 06, 2024, 12:58 AMUfopolitics,
Yeah, that's puzzling.  It is almost like there is a timing issue on the make-before-break contacting providing an alternate/additional path for the circuit.  It would have to be a serial path to cut the voltage in half.  Unless it is a parallel path and the current draw pulls the power supply down.

If you disconnect every other commutator element will you get arcing out the kazoo?

I'm speculating here, you have the system in front of you and I don't so you may want to disregard my comments.

Stay inspired,
greybeardmike
 

Quote from: greybeardmike on Apr 06, 2024, 07:20 AMUfopolitics,
After sleeping on it I have a few more comments.
I have seen weird things happen with switching power supplies and the sampling rates of digital volt meters.  Could you get a clearer picture of what is happening if you had a clean battery supply and you looked at the output from the commutator elements on a scope and you could rotate the commutator by hand to see what is happening in slow motion?
Just speculating again, I haven't had my morning cup of tea yet.

Stay inspired,
greybeardmike

Hello Mike,

I have your two posts quoted above, so I can remove your two original posts.

Ok, what I did on that test video is the simplest check you can do when diagnosing your driver system, it does not matter if it is a commutator-based drive or electronics-solid state or even a relay-based system.

1- It is an OPEN CIRCUIT, meaning no parallel or series connection here, NO Amps draw at any point, NO kickback voltage from Coils whenever reversed, this is just checking voltage from point to point.

2- Positive (+) Brush carries a full 28 Volts from Source, so, every time it hits a Metered contact to Source GROUND (-), it is supposed to deliver a FULL 28V minus all resistance added in SERIES by Brushes and wires on the circuit...that should NOT be a lot, but just a few ohms that SHOULD NOT cut the Voltage in half.

IMO, this is due to either:

1-A lack of brush pressure on commutator or slip ring or BOTH, that RIDES Brushes "lightly" on copper, not delivering the full contact, and getting worse at higher speeds...like a "loose bolt" in any electrical connection.

Adding to above, the fact that commutator copper surface or slip ring, may have unevenness (warped surface) due to wear and tear plus arcing from so many years of working.

I already have replaced this commutator before, because of this uneven wear.

I have a specific tool that you add to any meter, to give you an average of pulsing DC readings, it is used on Marine Motors to check for misfire on spark plugs or electronic distributors.

I will run that test next.

2- There is a possibility (very rare to happen) that carbon in positive brush have "crystalized" due to excessive heating, in that event, brush becomes HIGHLY RESISTIVE than any normal brush...

And I will check on that, whenever I take apart the rotary switch.

So, whatever the outcome is, it is no big deal, I will resolve this.

But I also want to build my New Commutator based on 32 contacts, that I have displayed before, which will make Four Strokes per Cycle, that is DOUBLING the Sequential Speed.

Do not worry, I will fix this issue "no matter what" and rerun new tests...once I have problem solved.

Take care...and I ALWAYS "Stay Inspired"... :)

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello again,

Well, I found where the issue was...the Slip Ring and Brush...it was adding like 20 to 15 ohms to system and at certain points even more, was uneven and lack of brush pressure also..:o

The Commutator & Brush were perfectly fine, 0.01 ohms.

Now it is all fixed, it is giving like 0.02 to 0.01 ohms between all contacts...I adjusted slip-ring brush with higher pressure plus I sanded copper ring with ultra fine sand paper while running it like a lathe...piece of cake!!

I am back to work...

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, after gathering all info on the Methods that I had tested so far, the best Setup so far are the Ring Sequential Coils with Secondaries underneath, and Two Fields on each extreme.

With the type of Sequencing that I have described on Page 42, Post 207:  FIGUERA'S AETHER MAGNETIC FIELDS LINEAR PUMP, REVIVED - Page 42 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,5.msg1115.html#msg1115)

The latter one that I put together did not work as I expected, for many different reasons I had explained on previous videos.

On another note, Member @kampen and I have been working through emails on a Solid-State Driver that would replace the mechanical Commutator Rotary switch as an option.

I want this Electronic Driver to be a "Plug and Play" type, that does not include a microprocessor, then it does not require any type of Programming.

It would be a simple sequencing from 1-8 and 8-1, where we would be able to adjust the Frequency speed as also to control the Time ON/OFF (Duty Cycle) and a switch to  turn it ON/OFF.

I will be opening a New Topic related to this Development.

Now, getting back to the Generator Coils Structure...

I think I have come up with a New Geometry structure that would do as I always wanted...to keep resistance and so Amperage CONSTANT during ALL Sequencing.

It is based on a closed Steel Core (Toroid) which would be displayed on the continuing post...

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, this is a basic structure which gathers many hours of work, plus all learned through extensive testing, and the purpose is to achieve ALL results we were expecting.

It is based on an original idea I have exposed here before, on Page 40, Posts 196-197:   FIGUERA'S AETHER MAGNETIC FIELDS LINEAR PUMP, REVIVED - Page 40 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,5.msg1025.html#msg1025)

However, it still utilizes the same Sequencing Method (1-8 & 8-1) as also the same Magnetic Polarization displayed on Page 40, Post207:  FIGUERA'S AETHER MAGNETIC FIELDS LINEAR PUMP, REVIVED - Page 42 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,5.msg1115.html#msg1115)

The main point here is to keep ALL Interacting Sequencing Coils with an EQUAL Resistance and so an Equal Amperage during ALL Stages of Sequencing.

However, this Structure brings along many other advantages...like we will be having all Magnetic Fields ENCLOSED within a Looped Steel Structure.

Now, this Structure does NOT need to be an exact Toroidal Shape...it could be Square, Hexagonal, etc...However, I rather have smoother angles, for field to displace easier through steel.

This Setup could also be driven by a 32 Contacts Commutator...



Now, in order to understand better this type of structure, I have to compare it with a Four Brush DC Motor Structure.

On this type of 4 brush motors, there are Two Positive Brushes and Two Negative Brushes, closing the 360 degrees in FOUR QUADRANTS, based on each PAIR of BRUSHES PLANES.

On a 4 Brush DC Motor, Rotating Armature keeps switching coils as it passes each brush plane, HOWEVER ALL FOUR MAGNETIC FIELDS GENERATED AT ARMATURE ARE STATIC DURING ROTATION.

And here we are doing exactly the opposite...or the Reversed Engineering of a 4 Brush Motor, with other features that motors do not have...

Here we are moving the "brushes" (Points of Power Input -Positive and Negative-) while all coils and steel core are completely static.

Therefore, we are Moving the Magnetic Fields through the Static Coils and Steel Core.

ALL FOUR "BRUSHES" (2 Positive, 2 Negative) are switching back and forth AT UNISON, through contacts one (1) to eight [8] and eight [8] to one (1).

We also have FOUR FIELDS (F1, F2, F3, F4), which would NOT be switching NOR REVERSING, exactly like we had before, on  previous setups in Method 2...

These Fields DIVIDE each Sequencing Switching Sectors of ALL FOUR "Brushes" as they switch between contacts 1 to 8 on the Four Quadrants.

Again like I have wrote before...I may be adding more info to this post as I keep posting.

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, on this image I have added the Two Lines between Positive and Negative Points of Power Entry (Arrows in Red and Grey with a Plus and a Minus Sign) here on Point 5 on ALL QUADRANTS.

These Two Lines are identical to the Brush Planes on a 4 Brush DC Motor, with the difference that on DC Brushed Motors, these planes are STATIC.

So, on these Four Moving Power Entry Points, I have also added Four Magenta Circles, representing our REPULSION FIELDS, like I have shown on my previous Diagrams on Page 42 Post 207 (I do not want to bring that image here not to create confusion).

But it is understood that on each side of each Repulsion Fields (magenta circles) are the two opposite attraction chains, expanded and retracted, as Repulsion Field moves.

Now as we do our switching between 1-8 and 8-1 on all Four Quadrants AT UNISON, we will be moving back-forth these four repulsion fields and shrinking and expanding all Attraction Chains, up to each Fields limits.

Now, ALL COILS are wound with the same exact resistance, same number of turns, same gauge, including ALL FOUR FIELDS 1, 2, 3, 4. (here is what differs from previous builds, where Fields had a higher Resistance and greater number of turns.

BUT, related to Coils direction of winding (CCW and CW) that part have to be done in order to satisfy the SAME MAGNETIC POLARIZATION DISTRIBUTION as the Sequencing Coils which receive POSITIVE INPUT, THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY LIKE WE HAVE DONE IT HERE PREVIOUSLY.

On the Following Post later on, I will make the Magnetic Polarization Map we will have here for better results.


In conclusion, we have here NOT ONLY SWITCHING Positive Charges BUT ALSO Negative Charges that are entering the Four Quadrants of this System and moving back-forth at UNISON between ALL LIMITS between the FIELDS.

In a DC Brushed Motor, no matter if it is a Two or Four Brush Type, they all have a common feature, and that is that Amperage (Currents) keep always BALANCED/STABILIZED within Armature.

And that is exactly what we are looking for here, as this would mean, that no matter if Field is expanding or retracting, it will always keep same currents stabilized, by having the same resistance disbursed all along the coil's windings.

On previous setups that was a "setback" we had in the past, meaning that when Magnetic Field was Expanding it will GAIN RESISTANCE (because it was added more coils to the sequence), then Amperage will DROP, not IMPACTING INDUCTION as it should, (basically Amperage gain) simply because Magnetic Field will DECAY ON ITS STRENGTH.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello,


Finally, in order to DRIVE this System with a Mechanical Rotary Switch, we will need Two Commutators with Two Brushes, one for distributing the Negative Charges and another one for the Positive Charges disbursement...Both Brushes moves at UNISON sharing the same Contact Angles.
Edit Add 1: Plus we will need Two Slip Ring plus brushes to run a constant positive and negative input to each commutating brushes.

And to use a Solid State Driver, we will need N-Channel FET'S BANKS to drive switching Negative charges, as P-Channel Banks to drive switching Positive Charges, with the SAME SEQUENCING IN TIMING AND DIRECTION (UNISON MOVEMENT OF ALL, POSITIVE-NEGATIVE CHARGES).

On BOTH above Methods to drive this system, they both satisfy maintaining the same exact GAP between the SAME NUMBER OF COILS BEING EXCITED AND INTERACTING AT ALL TIMES, whether Field is Expanding or Retracting, stages takes place simultaneously.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

Ok, well, last post for the day...like I have promised, here are the Magnetic Polarizations that we are generating on this system:



As you all can see, we have Four Repulsion Fields, on each Electrical Entry Points, like we had before on only one Positive side to One Repulsion Field.

However, If we keep ALL COILS WITH SAME CCW WINDING, BUT, if we Input a Negative Charge, instead of Positive, we will have the OPPOSITE POLARIZATION REPULSE FIELD, in this case a South Repulse Field.
As well as the Attract Magnetic Chains would also be reversed, compared to the Positive Input Chains.

HOWEVER, if you noticed, that ALL MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS AT THE SEQUENCING, ARE IN COMPLETE COMPATIBILITY WITH ALL FOUR FIELDS (F1, F2, F3, F4). So Magnetic Fields Energy Flows smoothly...

ALSO, please realize that Fields do NOT REVERSE THEIR POLARIZATION, since they are NOT switched at any time.

Again, I may be editing this post later on...

ADD1: Please realize we have mainly here "FOUR MAGNETIC TURBULENCES" here, about the REPULSE FIELDS, so we are displacing these Four Turbulences approximately a bit less than 90 degrees each, on a back-forth movement.

On a prior SINGLE Module, we only had one Repulsion Field.


Regards


Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: I have set a Reference Coil Image on image Top Right, so you could see Red is South, Blue is North.

Hello to All,

Ok, on previous post #252 last night, on that Diagram, I have set the Magnetic Polarizations for each SINGLE COIL of ALL the 32 Coils involved.

And breaking down Coils per function, we have Four (4) Coils as Fields, and 28 as Sequential, switching Coils. That means we have SEVEN SEQUENTIAL Coils per Quadrant.

However, most of us knows that an "Attraction Chain" composed by many SINGULAR FIELDS, when this single fields are next to each other (NOT necessarily physically touching eact other's, but within the Spatial reach), they become a SINGLE, GREATER FIELD.

Exactly the same scheme takes place whenever we approach a few permanent magnets, they "automatically" rearrange to form a SERIES CONNECTED Chain and configure a full Magnetic Field, with a perfectly centered Bloch Wall in the exact center of the whole chain.

So, in order to have a REAL VIEW of how this arrangement looks, viewing it as MOMENTARILY FORMED FIELDS, I have created this Diagram Image about it:

EDIT: THE IMAGE BELOW IS WRONG, PLEASE SEE NEXT POST FOR CORRECTED IMAGE!



Now, first I want to emphasize that Field Coils do NOT get polarity reversals at any point, therefore, their Magnetic Field keeps centered around its Spatial Domain.

And so, Fields are represented here as having a N/S Polarities defined within its area.

However, that Property does not apply for TEMPORARY-DYNAMIC MAGNETIC ATTRACTION CHAINS.

Temporary Chains are under constant reversals, plus, they are either expanding or retracting, by adding or subtracting coils into the chain, depending on where the power entry point contact is located at.

So, on this view, we have ALL CHAINS as a SINGLE FIELD for the specific Entry Point of Power (Positive-Negative Contacts) highlighted by the four (Positive-Negative) arrows.

But here we can see the Repulsion Fields created by each OPPOSED ATTRACTION CHAIN for each Quadrant.

Then, when a Repulse Field is approaching a Field, it is COMPRESSING/CLOSING that Attraction Chain, while the other Chain is EXPANDING/OPENING.

And this same Function, takes place on each Quadrant, at complete UNISON, at the same timing.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hello to All,

I have made a mistake on the previous Fig 4...And no one have noticed...

It was related to compacting all attract magnetic chains into Single Fields...

I could have just switched/replaced that wrong image by the corrected one, right on the same post...and no one would have noticed.

But, I want to leave the wrong Diagram on previous post, and post here the corrected image...

I can make mistakes, as so can you...after all we are just humans, right?...but, according to previous wrong drawing, it will NOT work.


Can you all note the SPECIFIC difference between the two images that will cause it NOT to work in reality?

Regards

Ufopolitics

I can see you have corrected polarity of field coils ... as long as they are separate coils they should have the polarity shown on last diagram otherwise they will oppose magnetic flux.

I still have a question for you: why other coils are not oriented N-S or S-N on diameter, I mean both positive to N and both negative to S diametrical opposed ... probably I don't understand how you connect them trough the switch

 Thanks UFO, for all your time consuming work, and particularly your excellent explanations in drawing form.

 I Take it that the secondary is wound under sequential coils, directly on the Core?


 Regards  Cornboy,    :)  

Quote from: Cornboy on Apr 27, 2024, 07:38 PMThanks UFO, for all your time consuming work, and particularly your excellent explanations in drawing form.

 I Take it that the secondary is wound under sequential coils, directly on the Core?


 Regards  Cornboy,    :) 

Thanks Cornboy!

Yes, exactly like that, Secondary is underneath all sequential coils.
We are just dealing here with the exciter coils.

Regards friend

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Classic on Apr 27, 2024, 06:18 PMI can see you have corrected polarity of field coils ... as long as they are separate coils they should have the polarity shown on last diagram otherwise they will oppose magnetic flux.

Exactly Classic!!
We had a working Module based on a Positive switching Input and a stationary/fixed Negative, where the Polarity of the Two Fields had South on outer and North facing inwards (towards Repulse Field)
And I had it reversed on wrong image...so everything else (basically the other two Fields had also wrong poles setting).

Quote from: Classic on Apr 27, 2024, 06:18 PMI still have a question for you: why other coils are not oriented N-S or S-N on diameter, I mean both positive to N and both negative to S diametrical opposed ... probably I don't understand how you connect them through the switch

Because then you will end up with a N, next to another N...as an S next to another S...it don't work that way.

It always must be alternated polarizations or N-S-N-S

This is the way Brushed Motors also work...Negative brushes are facing each other's as also Positive Brushes are diametrically set, at 180 degrees.

I guess that answers your question, if I understood you well.

Let me know.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hello,

Ok, so, the two Modules that are being switched by a Positive Input, are IDENTICAL to the single Module I had shown before, Picture below:


Except, by taking off the secondaries...and only looking at the exciting coils and the two Fields.


Now, if we look at Diagram above, the Positive Input Full Module, from Field 1 (F1) to Field 4 (F4) have the same Poles Structure as the First Diagram of a Single Module, Positive Input, N Repulsion.

So, I had Copied and Duplicated this FULL Positive Module (Including its Two Fields), and set it across at 180 degrees, in a Mirror type set.

Then I have added two Negative Input Switching Coils ONLY (Without Fields)...and they are set across, the same way as Positives is set...in order that Alternated Modules will receive Positive-Negative from both ends...

On this design we have Four sets of Switching Coils, however, we only have Four (4) Fields interlaced between all four sets...because Negative Switchers are SHARING FIELDS FROM POSITIVE Modules.

I believe this setup, so far, would be the best one I have designed.

Only thing here, is that we have a Toroid, Structure which are a pain in the neck to wind...and I do not have a Toroid Winder...So, I am looking now at a way to make a Steel Modular Core, that we can take it apart, add coils and then screw it up...or wrap it up...to perform testing, of course.

Once we have a working model, then...would be "Toroid Winding Time"...

Regards

Ufopolitics