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Title: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: feb_ on Jan 21, 2024, 04:44 AM
Hi everyone

I have read the Figuera and Buforn patents and here is my interpretation, it is completely speculative.

feb_

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Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 21, 2024, 12:30 PM
Quote from: feb_ on Jan 21, 2024, 04:44 AMHi everyone

I have read the Figuera and Buforn patents and here is my interpretation, it is completely speculative.

feb_


Hello feb_

You may have read the patents...but you may have not read about the life and facts about the Figuera Device...So, you can NOT, just make a "light opinion" just by "reading a patent", and then "assume" that it was "completely speculative"

So, let me expand a bit about it...by facts, and not "speculations" (ideas, theory only)

Figuera, Blasberg and Buforn built this Machine (the 1908 Patent) in order to prove that his Patent Theory worked, Figuera had his Commutator Controller made in Germany, by Peter Blasberg, who was a German Electric Engineer and also his partner on this venture...and had his own Power Plant electric business there...Figuera had his Generator powering his House in Canary Islands (Gran Canaria) Santa Cruz de Tenerife...to be more specific.

These Patents were way beyond "pure speculation"...

They were real!!

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 21, 2024, 12:44 PM
Hello again,

Also, that "assumption" that the y wires on secondary were 90 degrees rotated, that IS pure SPECULATION!!

That falls into the Transverse Induction, which is not even proven up to now...by physics, by Academy...as it have not yet being "officially recognized"...

Those lines in secondary "y" on the Buforn Patent (NOT existing on the Figuera Patent 1908) were just to differentiate between Inductor and Induced, Design technique, of a Hatch, used in all CAD Diagrams up to now, to stablish a difference in materials or in components role!!

Also, this Pyramid Wave, you have shown above (original) I also generated it, about eight years ago...and that is done with Resistors, NOT with Inductors like I am showing now!!

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: feb_ on Jan 21, 2024, 01:02 PM
Hi Ufo

What I ment was that MY interpretation is completely speculative.
I just haven't built what I'm speculating about. That's how I think the Figuera generator works. I think Figuera had a working overunity device.

feb_
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 01:27 PM
Hola a todos,

puestos a especular ... Yo creo que, Figuera filmó una película mentalmente del funcionamiento de una dinamo y luego la visualizó en su cabeza, fotograma a fotograma y encontró cada una de las secuencias que componen el movimiento. Luego hizo ingeniería inversa y construyó una máquina que no necesitaba mover el inducido,bastaba con mover el campo magnético y lo consiguió.

Saludos.

hidrogeno.


Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 21, 2024, 03:24 PM
Quote from: feb_ on Jan 21, 2024, 01:02 PMHi Ufo

What I ment was that MY interpretation is completely speculative.
I just haven't built what I'm speculating about. That's how I think the Figuera generator works. I think Figuera had a working overunity device.

feb_

Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding feb_

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 21, 2024, 03:28 PM
Quote from: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 01:27 PMHola a todos,

puestos a especular ... Yo creo que, Figuera filmó una película mentalmente del funcionamiento de una dinamo y luego la visualizó en su cabeza, fotograma a fotograma y encontró cada una de las secuencias que componen el movimiento. Luego hizo ingeniería inversa y construyó una máquina que no necesitaba mover el inducido,bastaba con mover el campo magnético y lo consiguió.

Saludos.

hidrogeno.



Translation:

QuoteWell,let's speculate...I believe that Figuera created a mind reproduction of the functioning of a Dynamo, to visualize it on his head, frame by frame, found each one of the sequences that compose the movement, And after, he Reverse Engineered and construct a machine that do not need to physically move the inductor, just the Magnetic Field...and then he achieved it.

Yo creo exactamente eso también, Hidrógeno.

Y si chequeas este post :  The 19th Century Manchester Bipolar DC Dynamo - Page 4 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,37.15.html)
Ahi lo explico casi identicamente como lo has dicho...
I exactly believe that as well. and if you check:  The 19th Century Manchester Bipolar DC Dynamo - Page 4 (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,37.15.html)
There I explain it almost exactly as you have...

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 03:42 PM
Hello Ufopolitics,

Have you thought about what would happen if the contacts that act as a bridge in the distributor rotated the same as the brush does, but in a different time sequence and in the opposite direction?


Greetings.


Hydrogen.

Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 21, 2024, 03:54 PM
Quote from: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 03:42 PMHello Ufopolitics,

Have you thought about what would happen if the contacts that act as a bridge in the distributor rotated the same as the brush does, but in a different time sequence and in the opposite direction?


Greetings.


Hydrogen.


Hello,

All that would do, is to "accelerate" the Total RPM's (speed) of the Fields displacement.
And that would depend upon velocity >(1) and velocity <(2)...

Saludos

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 04:01 PM
hola ufo,

mi opinión, si los contactos puente giran 90º, en lugar de aumentar los electro imanes de arriba al tiempo que aminoran los de abajo, lo harían ambos por igual subiendo y bajando gradualmente y si a eso de añadimos movimiento la secuencia sería la composición de ambos movimientos de una forma relacionada con el giro de la escobilla.

Saludos.

hidrogeno.
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 04:10 PM
hola de nuevo ufo,

Para una escobilla incrustada en el eje girando en un cilindro con delgas o contactos ... No hacía falta descomponer la máquina en piezas y mandar fabricar a diferentes países, por ejemplo Alemania.

saludos.
hidrogeno.
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: feb_ on Jan 21, 2024, 05:21 PM
Hi Ufo

Regarding Transverse Induction here's a test I did with two U cores (B1) and flat coils between the legs of the cores and a coil wound around the top of one core (B2)(B3). With flat coils between one of each legs it worked. I got a signal on both flat coils. One flat coil between both legs (B4) didn't work. The input signal was sine or triangle.
It works with one coil, you just have to wind it in a special way.

So regarding Figuera's generator, I think that the special input signal he uses makes it work.
It's like a seesaw or as long as there is higher pressure on one side the water flows in one direction then when it gets higher on the other side it flows in the other direction.

feb_
Title: Re: Interpretation of Figuera generator
Post by: Ufopolitics on Jan 22, 2024, 06:45 AM
Quote from: hidrogeno on Jan 21, 2024, 04:01 PMhola ufo,

mi opinión, si los contactos puente giran 90º, en lugar de aumentar los electro imanes de arriba al tiempo que aminoran los de abajo, lo harían ambos por igual subiendo y bajando gradualmente y si a eso de añadimos movimiento la secuencia sería la composición de ambos movimientos de una forma relacionada con el giro de la escobilla.

Saludos.

hidrogeno.
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