I attempted to demonstrate the concept of understanding the FIGUERA generator presented on the MOOKER website by Jim Mac.
I simplified the rotary distributor and the resistor by using a potentiometer in bidirectional switching mode. I used Google Translate.
Figuera generateur 2.jpeg
Figuera principe.jpeg
Hello
@bigeasy,
Great you opened your own Topic!
Ok, are you sure that is the way that Jim Mac has connected the Battery to Resistor(s)?
Because the way I see it, the Battery AND the Two Coils (N&S) are connected
ALL the time to Resistor or Potentiometer in Parallel.
According to the Currents Path, "Currents will always find the path of less Resistance"
So, I see Resistance Variation is doing "very little" - or nothing- to affect the current path to coils...
On the Real Figuera (Original) the 'Wiper' from Variable Resistor Box 'R' is connected to the Positive while Two Negative legs go straight to the Coils N & S.
Maybe I am missing something here?
Regards
Ufopolitics
I've carefully examined the electrical diagram and noticed a difference between Figuera's drawing and Jim
Figuera's electromagnets are in opposition; they repel each other.
N y S
-------------><-----------><----------
In the diagram of Jim, the magnetic fields of the electromagnets are oriented in the same magnetic direction.
N y S
-------------> ------?------- >----------> What is the influence of this principle?
Quote from: Ufopolitics on Jan 15, 2026, 08:04 AM....Because the way I see it, the Battery AND the Two Coils (N&S) are connected ALL the time to Resistor or Potentiometer in Parallel.
According to the Currents Path, "Currents will always find the path of less Resistance"
So, I see Resistance Variation is doing "very little" - or nothing- to affect the current path to coils...
On the Real Figuera (Original) the 'Wiper' from Variable Resistor Box 'R' is connected to the Positive while Two Negative legs go straight to the Coils N & S.
Maybe I am missing something here?
Regards
Ufopolitics
Ok, I read on Mooker what Jim is doing...
@bigeasy : your diagrams are correct, perfect.
Here the Total Resistance of Potentiometer or Linear Variable Resistor must be VERY HIGH.
As the Coils Resistance is better with lower values.
This will FORCE currents to go through the Wiper Path.
Now it makes sense...
Ufopolitics
Hello All,
Ok so, I did a Graphic and quick Analysis on this new Figuera's approach...
JIM_FIGUERA_APPROACH.png
So, in order for this arrangement to work, the
Total Resistance at Potentiometer must be very high, in order to force currents through the Wiper circuit.
As the wiper must always have resistance on either sides, otherwise the Coil that is contracting will collapse (Points "S Max" and "N Max") by being shorted (not receiving power at all.):
JIM_FIGUERA_APPROACH_S_MAX.png
Like it shows on above Img, at S Max Point, we can see that N Coil is shorted by Wiper, and so if 'some' currents are able to travel through Coil S to Coil N negative leg, let's always remember the law of "path of less resistance"...And here obviously the currents preferred path would be through wiper (zero resitance)
Then Wiper must -always- travel between Points "a" & "b".
The Original Figuera had these two points with zero resistance to grant Full Currents at "Max Points"...this design does not offer that option.
So, there would always be some resistance reaching the coils. (IF Wiper moves Max between "a" & "b")
My Opinion: Other than offering a Fixed Parallel Resistance to Battery (as the "R Box" on Figuera), this design is another "Variable Resistance" feeding Coils.
Which means it will be also varying the Currents reaching the Coils N & S.
On my part, I wish the best of luck to this new approach...However, I see there is not much difference from all other failed attempts to make Figuera's Original Design work based on Variable resistors/ Variable Currents.
And I honestly hope that I am wrong...
Sincerely
Ufopolitics
The schematic is wrong, and it opperates differently than shown. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYaiXf-p5Ws
I have watched both of the videos and your idea is very interesting. I think you might be right. I need so time to try that out with some coils to see what happens. Thanks for sharing that video and the one before it.
Carroll
Well I decided to try a little experiment using Floodrod's method of powering the Figuera device. Here is a video of the results:
https://youtu.be/P6WswleHSzk?si=q06Eq0xLxomaixSw
One thing I didn't mention in the video is the difference in wave shapes between the two different ways of powering the Figuera device.
I hope you find this interesting.
Carroll
@citfta,
Nice test! and don't worry about the mess on your bench...you don't want to see mine... ;D
Definitively there is more gain, as the Sinewave looks much more defined in positive & negative steps.
I got a question, what are you using for the "R" Box, or resistors in series?
Couldn't see it on video.
Thanks!
Ufopolitics
Hi Ufo.
The only resistance is the armature of the modified motor. As I explained I added a slip ring to the motor and connected that to one segment of the commutator. So as the motor is rotated the slip ring connection goes from one brush to the other which in the original Figuera connection would be feeding the positive back and forth from the end of one coil to the end of the other coil.
But in Floodrod's connection the slip ring connection is moving the ground connection from one coil to the other and the battery is connected to the ends of both coils. I didn't at first see how that could work until I watched his first video that he did not post here. You are basically bypassing one coil and then the other.
Take care my friend,
Carroll
Quote from: citfta on Jan 19, 2026, 07:42 PMHi Ufo.
The only resistance is the armature of the modified motor. As I explained I added a slip ring to the motor and connected that to one segment of the commutator. So as the motor is rotated the slip ring connection goes from one brush to the other which in the original Figuera connection would be feeding the positive back and forth from the end of one coil to the end of the other coil.
Hello my friend,
Well, I must say it is an intresting -and smart- way to make the Figuera circuit work with a spinning motor's Armature!
So, you use the Two Motor brushes set at 180 degrees to run the N & S Coils with just positive feed.
And the retracting (shrinking) pole never collapses, as it gets the full resistance of the armature, but still 'alive' correct?
Quote from: citfta on Jan 19, 2026, 07:42 PMBut in Floodrod's connection the slip ring connection is moving the ground connection from one coil to the other and the battery is connected to the ends of both coils. I didn't at first see how that could work until I watched his first video that he did not post here. You are basically bypassing one coil and then the other.
Take care my friend,
Carroll
Yes, I watched Floodrod's video with the light bulbs...where he shows the shrinking bulb never goes totally out of power.
It is indeed an interesting design.
Regard my friend
Ufopolitics
Hi Cifta,
I see what you did here- Very clever. I attached a sloppy mockup so others can understand the hookup.
You are using the armature windings as the resistor, and rotating the whole resistor with stationary brushes.. Yes that hookup seems to do the same as my build, except that way needs the extra brush.
I think your way has a hidden advantage. Your wiper circuit through the armature slipring will have AC going through it as it bypasses the individual coils. You should be able to either move the brushes 90 degrees, OR rewind the armature shifting the coil to commutator hooks by 90 degrees. That should align the armature's magnetic field with the field coils.. Then you can potentially collect more output from the AC going through the armature by using the field coils as additional outputs.. So you can also essentially tap the resistor's field for additional output..
ciftas design.PNG
Hi Floodrod.
Your drawing is correct. That is exactly the way I have the circuit connected. The brushes are in the original position. The only modification to the original motor is the added slip ring and the disconnection of the field coils. So the field coils should be getting some induced current as you said. When I get a few minutes I'll check that idea out and see how much voltage and current is actually there. Thanks for your brilliant idea for powering the Figuera circuit. Also thanks for the suggestion about the field coils.
Carroll
Hello All,
Gentlemen, You Two (
@citfta &
@floodrod) just shared Two Brilliant Ideas!
Thank You both!
I do not want to anticipate too fast, but I am almost sure you two have cracked (debunked) the Main Idea behind the Lockridge Device.
@citfta, I believe once you Load the Stators, not even connected to Armature, they will generate their own Field...and so they will either turn the armature CW or CCW.
This is a Universal Motor...it could run on DC or AC (or Both) And according to Floodrod design you are already powering the armature by the two brushes.
All you need now is a Stator Magnetic Field. (which could be "independent from the Armature", meaning: Not connected)
If this works as I am thinking, it would be funny that trying to debunk Figuera, we may also debunked another Free Energy Device...the Lockridge.
@citfta, like I mentioned before, your idea to use this Universal Motor to do the job of the Static R Box on Figuera was very smart, clever and amazing!
@floodrod, my apologies about my early and poor analysis about your design, not having the correct diagram, ending on my wrong conclusions...However, I did say that "I only hoped that I am wrong.."....and I was.
Regards
Ufopolitics
UFO-
I believe you are right. The armature (resistor) should be able to double as the motor itself simply by adding field magnets. We will have to see how the back-emf alters the system, but a very good idea and should absolutely be tried.
This is just a theory- but it is very possible that the universal motor's back-emf may self-regulate the resistor's impedance - thus acting as a resistive tuning mechanism, locking in the balance.
This may make the system much easier to build for anyone, as all they need is a DC motor - and slight mods yield an entire commutator / resistor system with no need for a separate motor.
Excellent idea..
Hi again guys.
I really like the idea of using the power going to the brushes to actually run the motor. I am not sure that will work with the motor I modified. If I remember correctly that motor is from an old vacuum cleaner. So it is a 120 volt motor and would probably turn very slowly or not at all on 12 volts. However it should be pretty easy to make the same mod to a 12 volt motor. And if you can find a 12 volt universal motor that would be even better because you can vary the speed of a DC motor by varying the current going to the field coils. As you reduce the current to the field coils the armature will speed up. I don't think I have one but I do have plenty of 12 volt DC motors.
I am right now pretty short on extra time so not sure how quick I can do a mod to another motor. But I will see what happens to the one I have just to check it out. I am in the process of remodeling a room for my wife and her quilting friends. And that project has to come first. But I try to squeeze in a little electronics once in a while.
Take care,
Carroll
Okay Guys, we have a winner!!! I removed the scooter motor from my universal motor. I hooked up just one of the field coils to my variable power supply and adjusted it to 15 volts. I connected the other power supply to the Floodrod circuit which means it also has power to the brushes. It was slow to start so I upped the voltage from 12 to 20 volts and it took right off. Then I started turning down the field voltage and the motor sped up just like a regular DC motor. So we now have a powered variable resistance device that doesn't need an external motor. The motor was turning pretty fast at 5 volts on the field coil. The scope said the AC output signal was 30 Hz. So that's not too bad for a cobbled together system. Also with the higher voltage going to the brushes and coils the output went up to almost 2 volts from the 1.5 volts. I have some ideas for a much better transformer setup but that will have to wait until I have more time.
Great ideas you two are having. Keep them coming.
Carroll
Quote from: citfta on Jan 20, 2026, 02:16 PMOkay Guys, we have a winner!!! I removed the scooter motor from my universal motor. I hooked up just one of the field coils to my variable power supply and adjusted it to 15 volts. I connected the other power supply to the Floodrod circuit which means it also has power to the brushes. It was slow to start so I upped the voltage from 12 to 20 volts and it took right off. Then I started turning down the field voltage and the motor sped up just like a regular DC motor. So we now have a powered variable resistance device that doesn't need an external motor. The motor was turning pretty fast at 5 volts on the field coil. The scope said the AC output signal was 30 Hz. So that's not too bad for a cobbled together system. Also with the higher voltage going to the brushes and coils the output went up to almost 2 volts from the 1.5 volts. I have some ideas for a much better transformer setup but that will have to wait until I have more time.
Great ideas you two are having. Keep them coming.
Carroll
Hello my friend,
Great news indeed!!
I also had another idea that would eliminate the slip ring...by using the Motor Ground Case as well as Armature shaft and/or laminated steel core....then running a wire from armature shaft or from its Laminated steel core to just one commutator segment (like you have it.)
As then adding from the outer motor metal casing or stator's laminated steel the wire to Battery as per Floodrod design.
I believe you will have the same result, without a Brush and a continuous slip ring assembly.
Note: Some motors have one brush to ground...it must be disconnected (well, you know that Citfta !)
Great work!!
Thanks for testing it!
Regards
Ufopolitics
PD: Only thing...Make sure your motor does not have full 'Plastic or Mica bearings'.!!... ;D
Hi again.
Yes you could connect one segment to the armature shaft and then connect to the frame to pick up the changing power. However that power would have to pass through the bearings on the armature shaft to get to the frame. There are a few machines in industry that do that but they have a special conductive grease in the bearings. Otherwise there will be some arcing and burning of the bearings which will shorten the life of the motor. We could connect the commutator segment to the shaft and then just let a brush ride on the shaft without the slip ring. That would eliminate the problem with the bearings.
Take care,
Carroll
Quote from: citfta on Jan 20, 2026, 02:44 PMHi again.
Yes you could connect one segment to the armature shaft and then connect to the frame to pick up the changing power. However that power would have to pass through the bearings on the armature shaft to get to the frame. There are a few machines in industry that do that but they have a special conductive grease in the bearings. Otherwise there will be some arcing and burning of the bearings which will shorten the life of the motor. We could connect the commutator segment to the shaft and then just let a brush ride on the shaft without the slip ring. That would eliminate the problem with the bearings.
Take care,
Carroll
Hi
@citfta,
I believe if you have full metal rolling or ball bearings, the conductivity should be solid.
Must typical bearings (cheap, Chinese) have all sleeves and bearings tracks (where balls roll)out of steel or an alloy which conducts.
Also the laminated steel core from armature is fully pressed bare into shaft.
So, drilling a small hole on inner armature lamination and adding a small metal screw will do to run it to comm. segment.
Lastly, you do not need a full brush-spring-casing...
Only a hard metal strip (like they use for spiral coil springs) and have it ride on shaft.(if bearings alone do not work, but, please try bearings alone and you will be surprised)
Take care
Ufopolitics
Quote from: floodrod on Jan 20, 2026, 09:37 AMUFO-
I believe you are right. The armature (resistor) should be able to double as the motor itself simply by adding field magnets. We will have to see how the back-emf alters the system, but a very good idea and should absolutely be tried.
Thks Floodrod, I think so
Quote from: floodrod on Jan 20, 2026, 09:37 AMThis is just a theory- but it is very possible that the universal motor's back-emf may self-regulate the resistor's impedance - thus acting as a resistive tuning mechanism, locking in the balance.
I think your theory is right, on all these motors the armature windings are a series loop, but closed, so at the last coil wound on armature, the ending terminal attach to the starting first coil, and here it is a different design than Figuera's that the series resistors or coils are open at both ends.
On these type of motors the EMF serves as a kind of balancing controller and unless we do not add major mechanical torque to shaft, the amps are completely stable and regulated by EMF.
Quote from: floodrod on Jan 20, 2026, 09:37 AMThis may make the system much easier to build for anyone, as all they need is a DC motor - and slight mods yield an entire commutator / resistor system with no need for a separate motor.
Excellent idea..
I think so as well.
Ufopolitics
I whipped together the wiper motor config identical to Cifta's demo and also use a visual aid to explain the differences of the driving currents, as compared to the common Figuera wave.
I realize what we are explaining may be confusing to some readers because the current path is a little tricky to see right away. But maybe this video and view of the waves will not only make it clearer, but also perhaps reveal how this "flipped" scenario can be used for benefit. And explore what it can lead to.