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Title: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Jan 31, 2025, 09:41 PM
One of the main problems of using Permanent magnets is They can not be turned OFF
If a device could produce an effect of blocking the magnetic fields of the magnetic poles to each
other ( and the blocking device was not effected by the magnetic pull or pushing effects )
The blocking device could be placed between to poles of the same magnetic fields
like North pushing against North ( And the blocking device would allow the 2 magnets not to
be able to push against each other and could moving together close -- once the blocking device is
removed from between the 2 magnets ( they push apart ) making usable output energy
Note: many different type of devices can be built using this magnetic Shield technology
( Because the blocking device is NOT effected by the magnetic force of the 2 magnets )
NO energy is taken away from the total of the usable output energy - other than linkage friction -

This method has been tested and it does work - no motor device have ever been built using this
method of magnetic shielding - But it does work as a shielding system producing no back pulls - as the device
is remove from between the 2 magnetic of the same poles ( as shown )
DSCF6501.JPG
DSCF6503.JPG
DSCF6504.JPG
DSCF6463.JPGDSCF6462.JPG

Something to think about or Test for yourself
tested in 2011 -- a few years old technology
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Ufopolitics on Feb 01, 2025, 10:27 AM
Hello Dr Wlazlak,

Unfortunately, at this point I do not have all the time to seat down -to go in detail- to respond as to make the required CAD Graphics related to your post setup.
I am going through critical health issues in my family (not me)
My wife is in the Hospital being treated on an aggressive type of cancer (adenocarcinoma on the lymph nodes).

However, on this brief post, I will try to express my main point of view(s):

Quote from: Dr.Wlazlak on Jan 31, 2025, 09:41 PMOne of the main problems of using Permanent magnets is They can not be turned OFF

That is correct, however, as you have shown, there are other ways to do so, 'indirectly'

You have shown the image below:

DSCF6501.JPG

And yes, on first image there are two North Poles on Repulsion...as on the lower image when you insert that Iron/Steel Plate in between, then another Magnetic Bond is formed:

[N>>IRON PLATE<<N]

And of course, the previous repulsion forces pushing apart in 180-degree vectors are gone, or at least diminished in great degree*...

*In order for these two forces to completely disappear, the new bond of two norths with iron plate have to be able to completely absorb these forces, meaning, be equal or greater than...based on the type of force the two magnets have versus the iron mass VOLUME, as also the 'GAP' between magnets-plate on the setup.

However, to REMOVE that Iron Plate from that newly formed Bond [N>>IRON PLATE<<N] will take also considerable force to pull it apart.

The question here is simple, if you sum up the two previous Repulse forces at 180 deg and compare it to required force to pull away the plate from the new bond...what would the result be?
Have you done this analysis?

Now the last Image:

DSCF6462.JPG

That is a very interesting way to put this technology in use...again, unfortunately at this moment I do not have the time to go over in detail.


Regards

Ufopolitics
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: citfta on Feb 01, 2025, 10:42 AM
This video might be interesting to you.  I did it a few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ChN24x_HU

Carroll
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Feb 01, 2025, 02:22 PM
Hello Carroll - Nice Video - The concept I have shown above a similar to what you demo in your video
One drawing I did not show in this was - The drawing below - DSCF6502.JPG


What is shown here is in Fig. 3 having North and South next to each other in the way shown 
The magnet to the left of them is in balance to the push and pull force equal
in fig. 4 the same thing applies using a steel plate to attach the North and South magnetic to
in Fig. 5 below there are magnets placed on both sides of the steel plate 
The North / South on each side produce no attraction to the 2 south facing magnets on either side
( This Shield produces no Pulls or pushing effect ( to the 2 outside south magnets on either side )
if set correct 
DSCF6503.JPG
Notice: The force of magnetic energy still is present but is directed DOWN at 90 degrees to the 
2 south magnets to produce the energy output 
( having the shield being able to pull horz. out having NO back or forward force of magnetic attraction allows a motor type device to be built of usable energy output )
The Shield using very little of the output energy to Block the magnetic pushing effects allowing the return to a close point Where the (south to south can push apart again and again )
DSCF6504.JPG
Fig. 6 shows the horz. pulling out of the shield ( Like said There is no pull or pushing using this balance shielding device 
The force is being redirected (Down) using bearing to roll on make it very easy to move
Of course there could be another method using Electromagnetic forces in a shield device
allowing the shield to push away freely using very little of the output energy to do so
like a no load motor the uses very little energy to move 
a steel plate could be turn opposite of attraction and push out from being the shield between 
As shown in a simple idea below
DSCF6466.JPG
There are many way of making this type of system into a motor type design 
Where the steel shield that would normally produce the same attraction backward 
can by using this method be part of the output and running on Permanent Magnetic force as the main output of energy produced

Fun Stuff - some many options - There must be thousands of ways of making workable devices -
I have it least 20 or 30 ways myself
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Feb 01, 2025, 11:11 PM
The Electrical shielding system is a interesting idea because using this method the electrical input also becomes a motor type output system and the Permanent Magnetic force is the main power source added
to the electrical motor working as a shield at the same time 
A simple design shows one possible method of doing this in a rotary motion using gearing to tie system together and also used as the timing for the system
The first drawing shows the gears sizes and how they would be arranged 
DSCF6745.JPG
The next drawing shows the line up of the shield to block the magnetic field from each other
DSCF6748.JPG
The next drawing shows the magnetic wheel having a 10 deg more turn and opening the shield
to allow the magnets to push to rotary action 
DSCF6749.JPG
The shield is built like an electrical DC. motor where the switching always keep the poles on one only
Note: this on the drawing below
DSCF6750.JPG
DSCF6751.JPG
This is one method of producing a workable output system using Permanent Magnetic Potential Energy as the main power source and using electrical power input as a second power source in Unity 
Note the main wheel turn 1/3 the speed of the shielding system where the shield is also a motor output system running at 3 times the speed of the main magnetic wheels 
The electrical input power only needs to be 1 /10 th the total output power of the device to produce this effect 
Again - Fun Stuff - Dr. Wlazlak
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: citfta on Feb 02, 2025, 06:44 AM
The electrical input power only needs to be 1 /10 th the total output power of the device to produce this effect.

Sorry, but I don't see any mechanism to support this claim.  What I see is an elcctromagnet driving a PM.  Just like any other pulso motor.  So please explain why you think it would only take 1/10 the power of the output.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Feb 02, 2025, 08:32 AM
Quote from: citfta on Feb 02, 2025, 06:44 AMThe electrical input power only needs to be 1 /10 th the total output power of the device to produce this effect.

Sorry, but I don't see any mechanism to support this claim.  What I see is an elcctromagnet driving a PM.  Just like any other pulso motor.  So please explain why you think it would only take 1/10 the power of the output.

Respectfully,
Carroll
It isn't for me to explain but, what I see there permanent magnets placed in the middle are in fixed position and only the shield rotate. According to the test in your video the required force to move the shield is much smaller and permanent magnets on the 2 driving wheels are fixed to the wheels and they will be pushed away when shield rotate as shield is not continuous and act as reluctance impulse when permanent magnets in fixed position in the middle are exposed to permanent magnets on the wheels.

In your video you have lookup for a different interaction and just a single test for sliding shield between the 2 magnets. Sliding a shield between 2 magnets in reluctance requires less force than the force of repulsion between the magnets placed at 90 degrees of the shield. In the proposed kinetic diagram sliding movement is replaced with rotational movement of the PARTIAL shield ... and I can see it is possible to even add 2 more shafts increasing the torque output if the interaction between permanent magnets can be focused.

Also, instead of a motor it can be a generator if permanent magnets are all in fixed position and will have coils on top as the blochwall will be moved simulating a movement of a magnet inside the coils. And coils will be on every single magnet. Probable just adding another disc on the same shaft may provide the electric power to drive the motor spinning the shield.

At least this is how I see it working and Dr Walzak can explain better to confirm or not this operation.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Feb 02, 2025, 01:52 PM
Thank you Classic You noticed the 2 magnets in the shielding device are fixed
The shield only need to be electric powdered for a short time ( this however is unknown - but if noticed the rotation of the motor is 10 deg to open the shield totally ( where the power can be turned off )
What that means is out of a 360 deg rotation power ON is 60 deg total time on - any one interested do the math
But part 2 to the energy needed to make the electrical shield work ------ it is part DC. electrical motor using permanent magnets as the field - A normal Dc current motor will push itself to full speed unloaded at !/10 it designed output power - Because the Shield only needed to be able to push itself away exposing the permanent magnets the produce the real output power of the device -----((( being power ON at 360 / 60 and 1/10 total power output needed - that is much less than 1 /10 th after all --- ( If one understands how thing work in the first place ))

thanks Classic for your comment: Hope that answer most of the questions asked - Dr Wlazlak
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Feb 02, 2025, 03:03 PM
Well, when you present 2 devices without mentioning may confuse others.

Are you aware one of Don L Smith devices is a generator hat works exactly as you draw your permanent magnet motor and has coils on magnets as I said above ?
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Feb 03, 2025, 02:41 AM
Well: Don Smith : Interesting He had build very high output device using a very interesting formula
W = 0.5 * L * A2 * Hz ( The normal formula by normal electrical Engineers is )
W = Volts time Amps ( adding things to the formula that do not apply like Hz. ) Well:
That sounds like someone was self learned themselves new not possible concepts in BS. to tell people they can build very big high output system --- really?
lets see normally Watts = 1 volt times 1 amp = 1 watts ( that is in every electrical hand book every written

now the Don Smith formula to get the energy you want from nothing = Watts = 1 volt times 1 amp times 10000000 hz. = ( 10000000 watts ) that does not exist = very high output systems of BS. ( but maybe this is why no real Scientist or electrical engineers or anyone that was really educated by real educated people that know the real - real way things work --
took anything he said serous - only the people that do no know how the real world of electrical things work would think he was real smart - 

I just wanted to point this out - because all - everything he shown talked about - presented was ( garbage )

My motors and Ideas from above ( do not resemble any of Don Smith's ( garbage stuff ) no way !!!!!

believe it or not - only the people that are educated enough to know the difference matter anyway;
nothing personal of course - I don't really care what you don't know - And why you don't know it -

That is why people should read book made by educated people not self learned science fiction comic books writers ( Then say " wow they really know their stuff "

I just wanted to clear the Air on that subject: All my items conform to the laws of physics and Science and to the laws of thermodynamics The data comes mostly from an Electrical Engineers hand book 1933 ( noting has changed from then to now ) I showed this hand book to a professor of Electrical Engineering and he said " never lose that book" The value is endless 

End of this post - Please - unless you have a real comment that is based in facts - Please ----
Keep it to yourself - And I won't have to correct the comment - ( Moving ON )

The next post is of a third type shield motor where the Permanent magnet rotate and the Shield is fixed

Again the main power source Is Permanent Magnetic Potential Energy made into motion by the use of Atoms 

Note: The reason I am posting this information is ( The value is endless ) nothing more nothing less 

retired engineer - making the some of the (Void) - filled -

I'LL Be Back - term.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: citfta on Feb 03, 2025, 08:18 AM
Okay,  I understand now about the 3rd motor.  I thought the magnets inside just represented the magnetic fields of the electromagnet.  Sorry about the confusion.

I agree with you 100% about Don Smith and all his nonsense.  I have argued for years that he DIDN'T know what he was talking about.  When I retired about 18 years ago I started looking at "free energy" devices and ideas.  Of course it wasn't long before I ran across Don Smith.  My first clue that he didn't know what he was talking about was where he claimed a regular neon power supply was overunity because if you multiplied the max current out times the max voltage out it was more power than the input power.  Of course that way of calculating the output power is ridiculous.  Then I found where he totally misused the Smith Chart used in radio work and claimed that you could change the resonant frequency of a coil by adding a resistor across the coil.  Total nonsense again.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 01, 2025, 10:31 AM
Not sure what you guys think but for me is just not right what you are saying.

QuoteI have 12V 1A battery source. By using mosfet and step up transformer I create 1000V and 0.012A. So, per 1 second I use: 12V * 1A * 1s = 12W. Does have frequency influence on power used by this step up transformer at interval 1 second?

In a step-up transformer, the frequency does influence the transformer's efficiency and performance, but [/color]not necessarily the power used at an interval of 1 second directly. The power input you calculated (12W) is determined by your voltage and current, and theoretically, the same power will be transferred to the secondary side, minus any losses.

So with frequency 60Hz the power consumption will be same as with the frequency 50kHz (if theoretically no losses are counted, no skin effect and no leakage or other losses).

Exactly! If we theoretically ignore all losses such as core losses, skin effect, and leakage inductance, then the power consumption would be the same regardless of whether the frequency is 60Hz or 50kHz. In that idealized scenario, power consumption is purely a function of the input voltage, current, and time, so both frequencies would yield the same power usage of 12W for 1 second.

Another question: energy stored in capacitor is E= 1/2CV^2, which is given by one pulse to the capacitor. So with pulses of 30Hz I get less energy to capacitor than with pulses 60Hz. Is it right? How much energy will the capacitor get (how much energy will be stored in capacitor with charging by 30Hz pulses and 60Hz pulses)?

You're correct in thinking that the frequency of the pulses will affect the energy stored in the capacitor over time. For a single pulse, the energy stored in the capacitor is given by E=1/2CV^2 At 30Hz, the capacitor will store 15CV^2 joules of energy per second. At 60Hz, the capacitor will store 30CV^2 joules of energy per second.

If I discharge capacitor by pulses at 60Hz, how much power I get, when capacitor is charged to 15CV^2 and 30CV^2 ?

When you discharge a capacitor at a frequency of 60Hz, the power you get depends on the energy stored in the capacitor and the rate at which you discharge it.

If the capacitor is charged to 15CV^2, the power delivered is 900CV^2 per second.
If the capacitor is charged to 30CV^2, the power delivered is 1800CV^2 per second.

How much energy is stored in capacitor 100uF, which is charged by 1000V 0.012A at frequency 50kHz? How much energy will capacitor store in 1 second?

So, the energy stored in the capacitor for each pulse is 50 Joules. Total energy in 1 second is 2,500,000 J[/color]

How much power can deliver this capacitor (which has total energy 2,500,000 J) per second if I discharge it by pulses at frequency 60Hz?

The capacitor can deliver [/font][/size]2,500,000 Watts of power per second when discharging by pulses at 60Hz.

And this is possible only with 12W input per second. Interesting.

You're right, it does seem counterintuitive at first glance. The 12W input power you mentioned primarily relates to the charging process.
https://www.mooker.com/thread-31-post-3437.html#pid3437

It really looks wrong to add time (frequency) ?

Now, regarding work similar with this concept presented here I only want to post 3 pictures of one devices built by Donald Lee Smith
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 01, 2025, 04:00 PM
All of this described nicely by N Tesla in his patent 462418
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Mar 02, 2025, 12:28 AM
hello Classic: So it seems you do not understand what is being said about how things work in the real universe
#1 First When Talking about power ( W = Watts ) Watts are only used in a time frame of 1 hour 
Watts are not used to describe power in seconds - only in hours -
So saying you have a battery that is 1 amp hr. at 12 volts is correct ( what is not correct )
is saying you have a battery the is 12 volts 1 amp for one second producing 12 watts - is not real, termed watts --
( the correct amount is ) = to 12 / 60 / 60 = Watt hrs. of 0.0033333 Watts in hours ( or one second of power )
That using any method of conversion would produce the same outcome 
But according to the 1933 handbook of Electrical Engineers - done by Testing and documented as such
( high Frequency does influence the transformer efficiency) (((( It reduces the efficiency ))))) 
It way found that 60 Hz. produced the most effect energy transfer - nothing more needs to be said ---

But he goes no anyway ==

The best way of knowing the truth is look up the facts in real books published before the internet was produced 
There is where the real truth is provided - no so much on the internet facts based on hear / say: as said: as a method of confusing the unknowing population that is unknowing because they follow the ones the present the hear / saying without knowing the real facts. They have learned for the ones that have passed on the hear / say - ( they believe to be true (( because they read it on the internet - somewhere ? ))

This is why I say: before offering something to others: make sure it is true: and then keep it to yourself: otherwise you are just trying to convert others to your belief as what you believe is true in your own universe 
( As only Masters of their own Universe - Would want to do -- ) Play God in their own Universe - As it were - ?

Sincerely Yours, Aka Mr. Tom - retired engineer and God of my own Universe ( Well: as least playing as such )
really don't care one way or the other - But remember ( Watts are in hours only ) 

 1 - lightning bolt is really 3000 watt hrs only - times 60 times 60 / billion volts gives the amps in seconds 
( do the math ) ( Fun stuff )

On a magneto the spark is produce by the means of using a capacitor making the coil lose its inductance faster making the spark hotter - However if the spark was produced slower the spark would be at a longer time frame
making the spark less hot but producing the same ratio of energy as the spark ( hotter / shorter ) = ( less hot / longer ) NO differ- ants - E = C M or EttCM ( it is not the complex ) What goes in goes out at the same as went in 

The Universe make a balance on its own - Trying to make the universe do what you want - Well: again hear / say ?

Everyone has their own ( Free Will ) to guess how things should do what they believe what they should have it to do - even though the Universe has the Real - last ( hear / say ) nothing changing that effect - not even when you tell other people something works different - The theory of ( hear / say ) and the people that believe the world is working for them and them alone. ( Everyone else must be wrong in some way ) otherwise why do I exist? ( meaning you of course ) -- that in itself is confusing -- why do people say that in the first place ? --- 

End of this part of this story - next part - Where did all the matter come from that is in balance in the Universe ?

 

Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 02, 2025, 03:13 AM
I don't know where is the mistake in what I said or what you said but, for sure my eyes are not deceived when I see the light coming out from an LED connected to a so called Joule Thief which is in fact based on another patent of Tesla where frequency of switching makes a great difference.

Please note, the text quote above do not belong to me as demonstration is made by someone else.

Anyway, lets keep the topic on track about magnetic switch. I hope I will be able to build such magnetic motor based on your design at some point and eventually powered by a generator (D Smith designed) as seen in pictures attached in previous message. Which in my mind looks like a motor-generator device
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Mar 02, 2025, 04:09 AM
A light coming out of an LED from a joule Thief - Well: interesting because
just yesterday: I was holding a 4 watt Led light that runs on 120 volts in my hand standing on a rug on the floor 
doing nothing but holding the light in my hand by the glass bulb - and the bulb ( glowed ) 
The big question - What experiment done does not make a LED light glow - 

Nothing moreover to say about that - Just only the topic has nothing to do with magnetic switches - 
( the topic has to do with ) Magnetic Shielding - just a little different than a switch -

But again - people should not Quote other people's words - or items that may conflict in the future with their own 
confusions that may be sorted out as being owned by the confused ones presenting someone else's ideas that may
not be as wished to be confused as theirs of ideas, in the first place ( just a thought )

Always in the most confused state of mind, Din ma ( moss ) retired engineer and aka Dr What his name?

There are so many to remember - somewhat confusing ) Well: at least at this time of the day: 

( Finally -- I forgot where I parked my Car )  The Finally Theory 

Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 03, 2025, 03:34 AM
@Dr.Wlazlak if you don't mind, I would like to correct your calculus regarding capacitor charging.

First of all when we charge a capacitor we measure energy transfer and not energy dissipated. This guy have assumed there an ideal transfer and not accounted for any loss, just for the sake of demonstration.

Now, power consumed or dissipated if you prefer is calculated as 1Joule = 1Watt in 1 second; and we can assume is power dissipated as it is energy taken out from source.
We can now translate 1000 Volts at 0.12 Amperes the output of transformer without any loss and observe that your calculus is correct regarding energy PER PULSE and indeed, power drawn is very small per pulse ! This is why we need to add time.

Power= watt
Energy=watt x time

It really doesn't matter how many times in 1 second we have pulsed the power out, the result will be the same in 1 second (without accounting for loss). What really matters is the fact the capacitor will get this power and when we account for energy stored (without accounting for loss) we calculate power delivered in unit of time. This is when you store a quantity of electric charges by each pulse.

In the demonstration the author have assumed the capacitor will reach the 1000 V by adding a quantity of electric charges per each pulse to match much slower rate of discharge of the same quantity of electric charges at 1000 V.
Now, it is just a matter of calculus to find out how much time we need to fill a capacitor at its rated voltage (time constant) and capacity of capacitor can be determined based on this calculus.

It is now obvious that if we try to drain the capacitor at the same rate as charging rate we can only obtain a loss in real world where loss is accounted for.

Of course in real life we need to account for loss if we aim to have an efficient system and make required adjustments in a timely manner and most of the effort will be placed on switching mechanism.
As in your magnetic shielding motor the effort to switch at right angle is much less than trying to power up the whole system and futile attempt to obtain more energy output then energy output.

Energy conserved in permanent magnets versus energy conserved in capacitors. So, if I keep the capacitor open to be drained continuous I only harvest the loss and the same in permanent magnet if I keep the shield static and your aim is to use stored magnetic energy with a required raport of transmission.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 03, 2025, 04:12 AM
A very simple demonstration can be performed very easy: we take 4 aa 1.5 V batteries and measure the current and voltage to make sure the batteries are almost equal in terms of power.

First set of 2 battery in series is connected direct to an LED and when set a time counter the moment they are connected.
Second set of 2 batteries in series is connected to an electrolitic supercapacitor at least 10 Farads, then this capacitor connected to an identical LED whit a time counter set separately. We measure voltage of capacitor to match the voltage of first set of batteries without capacitor.

Measurements: first we run capacitor set until capacitor is discharged and LED can't be lit. Note the time it takes.
Second we run the LED powered direct by batteries for the same time as capacitor set was run.

Or, much easier: take 2 aa 1.5 V batteries in series and direct charge 1 F supercapacitor. Measure voltage of batteries and current before charging capacitor and after. When voltage has reach maximum voltage in capacitor, measure current. Normally you should get at least double amps in capacitor then what was initial in your batteries at almost same voltage.

Use short and very thick wires, eventually multistrand.

We can run the test until both sets of batteries are depleted, or a single run and measure battery sets after usage. Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: citfta on Mar 03, 2025, 07:07 AM
Classic. 
 I am going to wait for Dr. Wlazlak to respond since this is his thread.  After his response, unless he says otherwise your very off topic posts will be deleted.  Keep your discussion on topic or in your own thread.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 03, 2025, 07:29 AM
Quote from: citfta on Mar 03, 2025, 07:07 AMClassic.
 I am going to wait for Dr. Wlazlak to respond since this is his thread.  After his response, unless he says otherwise your very off topic posts will be deleted.  Keep your discussion on topic or in your own thread.

Respectfully,
Carroll
I guess I will be put on mute again or maybe banned from forum.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: citfta on Mar 03, 2025, 07:49 AM
Classic,

I have no plans to do either one.  But you are being very rude and disrespectful when you keep hi-jacking others threads to promote your ideas.

Carroll
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Classic on Mar 03, 2025, 08:09 AM
I am very sorry and I apologise for the inconvenience. It was somethings that I saw as a natural way ... if I would had time and resources I could even build straightaway all I said to show proof and probably I would apply for a patent without attempting to obtain one but, just to establish prior art and prevent blockages.
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Mar 03, 2025, 03:28 PM
hello you 2, I am responding, of course I am also laughing
I had to stop reading at the point of when I read (
Power = watts
Energy = Watts * time

Watt = E times I ( E= volts and I = amps ) there is nothing else involved 

This is the same type to math thinking Mr. D Smith was using - E * I * HZ being said ( E=MC2 * Time ) 
making up new ideas that do not apply to the real world and thinking they apply = non-sense ))

History lesson # 314159: in 1792 James Watt - Engineer of Steam Engines - Wanted on relate and compare the output of Horses
that were the main pulling system of the time So: James ( Watt ) using his own name as the main name used

Took a Draft Horse and made a test to compare the relation to how much a Draft Horse could lift against Gravity

being Watt = Time * Length * Weight ( note Time is not used twice in this formula ) unlike Classic's formula E = W * Time

So the formula started with 750 watts that is Gravity is 32 ft per second dropping around the world 24000 miles
24000/32 = 750 ( engineers use strange ideas when producing new concepts ) - real stuff of course 

The max speed of a horse is about 30 miles an hr - once that speed is reached the resistance on the horse running can not
go faster - that is the ( maximum power a horse can produce ) 1 horsepower

So the test would have to be at a lesser speed so the horsepower be calculated

The test was done at the horse moving 1/2 mile an hr. this is 44 ft. in 1 minute

The weight used was 550 lbs. 

So the horse was moved at a rate of 1/2 mile an hr over 44 ft in one minute lifting 550 = 33000 total lift in gravity in 1 minute or 550 lbs. in 1 second 

moving 44 ft in one minute = ( LENGTH -44 ft. ) * ( TIME - 1 minute ) using 550 lbs is the ( WEIGHT ) = 750 (watts)

This is a Steam Engine's rate of 1 horsepower 

If a horse is running at full speed (the horse's weight) is the speed it is moving and the time it took to get from point A to B --- being 1 horsepower ( if you multiply (( time again )) to that formula - that is horsepower overunity 

( we all know in the real universe - horses do not produce Overunity ) 


Well: only the we that know the difference between real and not real do of horse ( I mean Course )

A horse is a horse of course -- Talk to Mr. Ed.

But magnetic shielding really does not have to do with charging a system to run an LED light ( does it? )

maybe you should start a new string on that subject - ( Where is the power source for the people stealing power to run their LED's by using Joule thief type devices - ) In the past people have been put in jail for taking things that do not belong to them - power wise - 

Like was said before - people coming to these forums are not interested in doing anything other than doing something other than playing video games for a bit. - like fishing or flying a kite - sorry that take effort - myself today I am going out to pick up sticks in the yard - right after I finish my coffee that is - and this (post ) 

hope this answers your effort to convince all the people visiting this post you are righter saying something in contrast to how thing really work in the first place in the real universe - I hope I guess?

Convince a fool against their will you nothing but a fool still - A quote from Bill's - Mom ( I like to use quotes that work )

Dr. is not in the house - out picking up sticks - so the lawn can be mowed - and the rain can fall and the grass grows again
so the wind will blow and the sticks will need picking up again - Is this better than flying a kite?

march winds - march forth - or stop - your chose?  it is a ( Free Will thing ) of course --- just finished the Coffee --
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 19, 2025, 03:58 PM
Hello MerLynn: I watched the a little bit of the video on that fellow: Before they shut down most of the sanitariums
That is a shame of course; making it possible for people to roam the world having these disorders: but what is really a shame is there are people that believe these types of People that should have a permanent home in the sanitariums.
Making one think: maybe the sanitariums did not shut down they simple expanded as now what we call cities.
allowing the mass amount of people that need to remain with these disorder free range allowing these people to run
the Sanitariums themselves. Of course if one thinks these type of people are normal. it is a good thing the world has cities. everyone needs a place to live.

I live way outside the cities. Where do you live? MerLynn

Din ma Tom
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 19, 2025, 06:27 PM
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hello Mr. M. What this is - Is a prototype testing motor designed to test an Electromagnetic coil That conforms to all the laws of Physics and Science and conforms to the laws of thermodynamics - it is not Overunity -
it uses Permanent Magnetic Potential Energy converted into Kinetic energy of motion by magnetic attraction to ferrous or iron metals - This concept is called an ( Permanent Magnetic power electromagnetic induction motor )
The Electromagnetic / Permanent Magnetic Coil produce a Unity output of 2 energies used in 1 output device
The ratio of input to output is again Unity but uses less input watts energy to produce 100 percent unity output in the concept of using 2 energies of one output device.
As to say: if a normal unity type motor produced a 230 watt output This prototype coil uses 70 watts being less
input to produce a 100 percent unity output from the energies built into the device ( used )
The first test was done on 12 / 7 / 2022 on this prototype design 
The input watts used to produce the output effect is follows
Input: 70 watts Dc. current constant input power 
output: 230 watts calculated for the horsepower developed from the maximum speed the motor could produce
at the 70 watts input power
This was done be knowing the friction load on the bearings being 0.2827 Lbs. per foot minute
maximum speed of the motor was 600 rpm's = 0.3084 Hp. this is = 230.0664 watts produced 
on the coil total output power developed by the input electrical watts used.

This is what I have done I am sharing this technology free to anyone that has the means of reproducing it.
the ones that do not have the means - I do not work with for long - it is a wast of time on my part -

I have also openly shared the working drawing with Universities, and businesses, The CIA. , the United nations,
Dr. Steven Greer, and many more. If you email me I will send the same information I have send these groups 

Thanks Dr. Thomas Wlazlak - Retired Engineer, and many more things - somewhat not retired so far.

Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 19, 2025, 08:16 PM
Hello again Mr. M ( I like you ) you say you listen to anyone and everyone that ( believes what they are saying is true )
does that mean - you do not listen to people that ( know what they are saying is true )
There is a difference - A person that is living in a world of make believe is a nut case - this is the people you listen to
The people that are down to earth and know what they are saying is the truth - these are the people you say you
do not listen to. 
WE are different
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 19, 2025, 09:36 PM
Hello Mr. M again; your no fun any more: you give up to easy; my Theory is you are an internet troll: having noting
to do now the Joe has left you on the curb; I am sorry you are so lonesome in you new life without him. 
it is time to move on: 30 years ago it was all fun and games running a playing with Joe and his cell, but times are changed like the water under the bridge because that is how normal people cross water. i am sorry again I don't read
you full post; i read the top line and the bottom one only everything else is -------------------- 

seeing how we never see each other again like in the case of Joe: and you: Bye it, or Buy it, but By it because you want to
But never pay with wooden nickles: burn them ( it free energy ) 

Oh: by the way; you completely did no understand this information give on this string it has nothing to do with sticking
magnets on metal - dope - 

And don't worry about leaving another post --- Attention: ( Citfta  moderator ) This is Dr. Wlazlak - Please delete any further post after this post - by ( MerLynn ) - leave the rest above - It makes me laugh - and maybe others also -

Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 20, 2025, 11:04 AM
Thank you Cifita: I will not bother Ufo : yes I understand, But I know he will give any permission to such a request because I made a deal with him when I returned. 
But on the other hand, Mr. M is somewhat humorous, and is fun - he really believes what he is saying is true:

but on the other hand: that could mean he is crazy: just a Theory of course. like the Wiskey: unless proven otherwise
it is all see / say: or hear / see, or second hand / see,see : Whatever ?

did you like the motor photo and comments on what it does?

I have gone to the next level of producing a system that works totally on Permanent Magnetic materials as the power 
source; the system is much smaller than a norm electrical motor of the same output ratio - very cool -
1 moving part just like a normal electrical motor but does not use any input electrical input power at all 

( and again: this technology conforms to all the laws of Physics and Science and to the laws of thermodynamics )
It also falls into the terms of ( EttCM Energy technology ) All other term do not apply 

in the near future this technology will be presented for viewing; as in all cases all my technology is at no cost and free
for the ones interested that have the means of developing and building such machines 

Thank you for responding: Cifita: 2025 is going to be the year this happens ( hopefully ? )

Dr. Wlazlak - Retired Engineer / Scientist, - Researcher and developer in energy technologies - and much more -
All - fun stuff -- Oh should show my build from last summer ( The Void ) now that fun stuff 
Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 20, 2025, 12:11 PM
(The next section is to understand a 2 energy for 1 output device)
Note: For every ( Action ) there is an equal and opposite ( Counter Reaction )

In Physics of nature it takes 2 forces of energy to produce a 100 percent Unity output 
This concept is not a subject offered as a study in energy Physics : but still is the normal realm of Physics 

Example #1 When a ball is dropped the gravity produces Kinetic energy for the distance dropped to be equal
force to return to the same level it was dropped from ( this is the Second energy of a 2 energy system )
The first energy is the person's energy the picked the ball off the floor and lifted to a level higher than the floor
level and dropped it ( the person's energy is the First energy of a 2 energy system )

Note: A mass of weight can not produce movement on it's own - it first must be put into movement by 
a means of Potential Energy to produces Kinetic Energy of movement to produce energy ---

Example # 2 Hydroelectric power ( The Sun evaporates Water - the water becomes lighter and raises to a higher [color=var(--body-txt-color)]lever than the Ocean - it becomes rain and falls - still being higher than the ocean level -[/color]
( This is the first Energy used, in this 2 energy system )
Once being at a higher level the Gravity of Potential Energy produces kinetic energy of motion that is converted
into electrical energy ) The weight of water returns to the ocean level making power output
( This is the Second Energy used, in this 2 energy system )

Any 100 percent unity energy must be produced by a 2 energy method to have the energy to overcome the 
( Counter Reaction ) that uses 1 energy --- leaving 1 energy for use in producing a 100 percent usable energy of Unity output power: ( once the Energy is developed from the 2 energy system -- There is only 100 percent energy available for use : Being and conforming to the laws of thermodynamics ; and Physics 

All The EttCM energy technology conforms to the 2 energy to 1 output system rule; otherwise it would not work

Note: the EttCM Energy Technology is ( not Overunity ) and is ( Not Unity in the normal sense )

The EttCM energy technology is Unity to the Potential Energy usable built into the devices of technology 

But the input watts of energy to produce the output power is ( not Unity of 100 percent ) input to output

The input used is ( Less ) to produce the output ( produced by Permanent Magnetic Metals ) ( but still conforms to 100 percent Unity of the Potential Energy usable from the source of the energy from the machine used )

Energy to torque Conversion Motor or EttCM energy technology ( fall in a new system ) not Unity or Overunity

( in the normal views believe to pertain to both )

Hopefully; this simple version of the concepts of a 2 energy for 1 output system can be understood:

It is also a ( Free Will item of belief ) -- either Believe it, or don't believe it, But do it because you want too.

Thanks Dr. Wlazlak - retired Enegineer - Scientist - teacher - and many more fun stuff things





Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 20, 2025, 02:49 PM
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Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 20, 2025, 03:13 PM
The Electromagnetic coil above is designed using a Permanent Magnet attached to one end
This is a 2 energy device system

The Electromagnet is a unity device of 100 percent input to 99 percent maximum output 
this is the first Energy of a 2 energy system

The Permanent Magnetic material does not use energy to produce force to kinetic motion of energy
this is the second Energy of the 2 energy system 

because the Permanent Magnetic Materials do not use input energy to produce output energy in this technology
the input watts used is 1/2 the total output power being produced

meaning: if the ( lone ) Coil being power on at 50 watts and will produce 100 gauss magnetic flux 

and when the Electromagnetic coil is OFF the Magnet metals on the iron core will produce the same 100 gauss 

When both energies are on one device such as shown above:

When the Electromagnet is power ON at 50 watts the combination of the 2 Energies will produce 2 times the
output gauss  ( of the lone electromagnetic coil ) ( 2 forces of unity ) magnetic flux -- being 200 gauss -- at the 50 watts input power

The Permanent Magnetic metals are producing Potential energy and using on an iron induction system to produce 
kinetic motion of power output will use ( Less ) input watt electrical power to produce the same as a normal
type Unity motor system 



Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 20, 2025, 10:01 PM
Hello, People: In order to understand a little more on the concepts a document has been placed on the internet
on Quora - using a search engine or Google the line below will go to that layout document
 
 ( Energy to torque Conversion Motor - EttCM - Quora )

Under the - ( Overview of this Technology ) this layout can be found 

Bits and peaces - in time the whole pie will develop - its a start -

notice: the part the says 1075 - 280 = 795 ( 795 ) is the power output of the prototype testing EttCM motor

A normal electrical motor at the same watts input will only produce 280 grams output

Its a start - Thanks - EttCM energy technology





Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 21, 2025, 11:01 AM
( Energy to torque Conversion Motor ( system ) EttCM Energy technology 

The next section will talk about the ferrous or iron induction field and how it relate to the increased force of magnetic attraction by the square of the distance applied in an ( Air Gap ) 

(Air Gap ) -- In order to have movement there must be a distance of travel between point A and point B
Note: without movement there is No Energy being produced
The Air Gap is that distance - Because magnetic force depletes by the square of the distance the shorter
the distance of the ( Air Gap ) of travel the higher the energy of force will apply to the output power developed

A testing device was built to test the maximum output force of the ( Air Gap ) in order to know the
the maximum power output a EttCM coil could produce in a motor application 

( The Photo of the testing device showing the EttCM coil in that test )
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Notice: from the center of the EttCM coil to the ferrous or iron induction plate there is an ( Air Gap ) distance
of about 1/2 inch - That is the maximum distance of pull force before it pulls away from the induction plate's 
attraction - ( That distance is Very Important ) because all the power being produced is from ( 1 EttCM ) coil's
[color=var(--body-txt-color)] total output factor of the horsepower being produced - from the ( 1 coil's electrical watts ) being used to[/color]
produce the ( Total output horsepower ) Note: Only 1 coil's input power -- per the Air Gap distance - is all that
is needed ( as input watts used to produce the total output power )

Note: this concept is totally unknown as a power producing method however it is used in many applications without fully understanding---and this is one of those application

( The next page will talk about how this ( Air Gap ) distance it applied to the horsepower output used in a motor application and the input of 1 coil's power [color=var(--body-txt-color)]watts used to produce the total output horsepower effects )[/color]

Thanks EttCM energy technology 

Title: Re: How to build a Permanent Magnetic Shielding device applied to a workable motor
Post by: Dr.Wlazlak on Apr 21, 2025, 01:20 PM
It is a little hard to comprehend ( 1 Coil's energy producing all the horsepower output of a motor )

But a very common technology does the same thing in a different way 

Gears 
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On a set of gears there are many teeth - but only 1 tooth to 1 tooth make contact at any given time
What that means is 100 horsepower can be transferred using only 1 tooth
all the rest are neither using or transferring energy in any way

In the same way on the EttCM motor design 1 coil is power ON -- All other coils on the motor are Off
meaning: 100 horsepower can be transferred using 1 coil's power ON ( in the same was a 1 tooth of a gear )
The rest of the many coils used in the motor design are neither using or transferring energy in any way

If only 1 coil's power is ON and transferring all it power to torque: 

The ( sequence of events ) if ( 12 coils are on a EttCM motor design ) 1 coil at a time is ON -
the other 11 are OFF 

As the motor rotates ( In the Air Gap high force location ) the EttCM coil is ON -- once it moves out of the Air gap location it turn OFF ( and the next coil of rotation is turned ON ) ( One after the other )

A 50 watt EttCM coil can produce on a 11.25 diameter induction field motor - (1.075 kilograms of pull force
Action motion ) ( the counter reaction is 280 grams reverse force ) = 795 grams force pull usable output power

This will produce about 250 watts per coil used on a EttCM motor design as shown below
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In a 12 coil system Only 1 coil is On power the rest are off 
The 1 coil at a time uses 50 watt electrical Dc. current power ( note: that is the total input use to produce all 
the horsepower output produce in this type of design
having 12 coils one after the other producing output power the total power using 50 watts input is about
12 time 250 = 3000 watt output power - minus Friction of the motor's factor of moving parts 

In the Unity of the technology that is using ( 6000 percent Less input power to produce a Unity of 100 percent )
Output power in the EttCM technology designs 

( This all conforms to all the Laws of Physics and Science and to the Laws of Thermodynamics )

Thanks EttCM Energy technology