Hello to All,
As I want to keep the Original Topic: FIGUERA'S AETHER MAGNETIC FIELDS LINEAR PUMP, REVIVED (overunitymachines.com) (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,5.0/topicseen.html) as a "Manual for Assembly and Understanding Book", reason why I have been deleting some posts which questions or opinions may diverge/deviate from the original idea I am trying to convey...
At the same token, I would like to read your opinions or any questions you have about this Development.
Reason why I have created this Topic, where you could post any doubts, or any questions related to this development.
I promise I will not delete any comments posted here, unless they violate the Forum and Policy Rules.
Or comments which are OFF TOPIC.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Hello UFO,
Here is a link to a youtube video of John Bedini explaining the function of the Lockridge device. It was , self runner, maybe some similar functions in Figuera device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxrU2UGVFDQ
Quote from: Greg GKP on Oct 05, 2024, 12:45 PMHello UFO,
Here is a link to a youtube video of John Bedini explaining the function of the Lockridge device. It was , self runner, maybe some similar functions in Figuera device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxrU2UGVFDQ
Hello Greg,
No, the Lockridge device was a combination of a Motor-Generator, a Rotary device, as the Figuera I am working on now and developing is about a Motionless
Linear Generator, based on his 1908 Patent.
The "Motor" on this Figuera Generator is a Virtual Magnetic Field Linear displacement.
I will explain later on more detail.
Ufopolitics
Hello All,
I would like to bring here, for further discussion an interesting analysis that member
@Prajna post on his Topic (link to his website)
Quote from: Prajna on Sep 14, 2024, 04:25 PMWhile waiting for some filament...
https://tomboy-pink.co.uk/figuera/
As the nice 3D CAD Prajna made:
model.png
And that is pretty good, as it is a much better and cleaner drawing in Three Dimensions, than what we got (in 2D) from the original 1908 patent!
Prajna's explanation:
QuoteFiguera's patent describes a machine that can be broken down into three main assemblies: a Switch, a voltage divider, coils.
The Switch - labelled 'G' in the image - is designed to switch the input current coming in on the wire marked 'Pos' to various points along the voltage divider and depending where the current is entering the voltage divider the current is divided between the two coils marked 'N' and 'S'.
The brush is not actually shown in the patent drawing, merely indicated with a '+' but I think my analysis below is correct.
The Switch works by rotating the Brush arm so that the Brush makes contact with one contact and sometimes two contacts leading to points on the voltage divider. The brush is designed to Make Before Break (MBB) so that the circuit is always connected, either feeding current to one coil or the other or between the resistors in the voltage divider, splitting the current between the coils or either side of one of the resistors, which will effectively drop that resistor out of the circuit.
The effect of the brush rotating (whether clockwise or anticlockwise) is to sweep the current, relatively smoothly, from the N coil to the S coil and back again. This is likely to create a strong magnetic field in the N coil and that field will be presented to the Output coil (Out or y) inducing a current in it due to the changing magnetic field. As the current is swept towards the S coil the Output coil will see a changing magnetic field, just as if a magnet is moved away or towards a coil, as happens in a generator.
When a magnetic field is permitted to run in a material an opposite magnetic field is created in the material, which opposes the field that induced it. In a normal generator the motive power is used to overcome that reactive field. That effect is referred to as Lenz' Law.
I believe the principle that Figuera relies on for his device is that he rotates his magnetic field (which is what a generator does) with negligible effort, since it is merely a case of rotating the brush, and any field induced in the Output coil has nothing for the Lenz force to act on.
It looks pretty simple to build and test but a great many people have tried and failed.
The explanation is great, except for the Bold and specifically underlined statement:
QuoteFiguera relies on for his device is that he rotates his magnetic field
Figuera does NOT ROTATES the Magnetic Field!
Figuera EXPANDS and CONTRACTS the named "N" and "S" Fields, which causes a
LINEAR-SPATIAL DISPLACEMENT of both Fields ALTERNATIVELY.
And this fact is what makes Figuera device "unique" on its class. Figuera uses a completely NOVEL LINEAR INDUCTION.
Where the "inductors" (N & S) are facing each other's, with the "Induced" (Y) set IN BETWEEN (Sandwiched)
Even though there are a couple of drawbacks on his approach on operating function, the MOST we can get from it, is the DIFFERENT and RADICAL STRUCTURE and Magnetic Field LINEAR DISPLACEMENT.
From there, we can add INFINITE different approaches and possibilities, always using the FIGUERA'S LINEAR CONCEPT.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Hello All,
From the ages of Dixie up to now, the existing ROTARY GENERATOR is an ANGLED-ROTARY INDUCTION.
On ANY Rotary Generator the "Induced Coil" on the Stator (or what is also called "the Stator's Field") is nothing more than TWO SPREAD SINGLE COILS (in SERIES) along the CIRCULAR SLOTS at the Stator. Where each Stator Coil is configured apart by 180º.
So, on this ROTARY Generator, we have an EXCITER ROTOR that on a simple Two Poles is just a N-S Single Field, which PROJECTS its Poles on a STRAIGHT, DIRECTIONAL FASHION...
Then, as this Rotor passes each of the Induced COIL'S SEGMENTS, that are spread along its circumferential Stator Core, these Two Poles are actually sweeping each coil segments at different ANGLED-TIME INDUCTION; and, as such, ADDING to the Total Induction Output whenever the Cycle is completed.
And here comes Figuera analysis...from a Rotary Generator or more specifically "a Dynamo" from the late 1800's to the beginning of the 1900's.
Figuera noticed on his observations (explained in great detail, on his 1908 Patent) that all it takes place to achieve Induction on a Rotary Dynamo or Generator, is that Inductor Fields "approaches" to then "leave" the Induced Coils.
It is exactly from this simple analysis, that Figuera "mimics" what a Rotary Generator does, HOWEVER, Figuera does it on a LINEAR FASHION CONFIGURATION.
And obviously these TWO BASIC FIELD FUNCTIONS (1-Approach 2-Leave) of Exciter or Inductor, Figuera uses the EXAMPLE as 1-Increasing-2-Decreasing the Currents that feed the Exciter(s), generating an Expansion and Contraction of the Field respectively.
Up to here is the BASIC Figuera interpretation from a Rotary Generator.
And again, the BEST that we should take from Figuera's approach, are just the Linear Approach plus his Analysis on these two simple functions (approach-leave).
Therefore, I believe, all other "details" were just given as a basic-general understanding (by example) of what Figuera basically, mainly, wanted Patented and Protected.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Quote from: Ufopolitics on Oct 14, 2024, 09:25 AMHello All,
I would like to bring here, for further discussion an interesting analysis that member @Prajna post on his Topic (link to his website)
...
Even though there are a couple of drawbacks on his approach on operating function, the MOST we can get from it, is the DIFFERENT and RADICAL STRUCTURE and Magnetic Field LINEAR DISPLACEMENT.
From there, we can add INFINITE different approaches and possibilities, always using the FIGUERA'S LINEAR CONCEPT.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Thanks, @UfoPolitics, and you are right, that paragraph is wrong. I'll rewrite it to better reflect what the patent indicates.
And thanks for taking the time to look at my page.
Hi @UfoPolitics, just to update you: I edited that paragraph so it now says, "I believe the principle that Figuera relies on for his device is that he rotates his magnetic field (in fact, as noted above, Figuera doesn't rotate his field as is done in a conventional generator, rather he reciprocates it, making one pole stronger and then the other) with negligible effort, since it is merely a case of rotating the brush, and any field induced in the Output coil has nothing for the Lenz force to act on."
I hope that is clearer.
Hello All,
Great, thanks, so, here it is:
Discussion about the Lockridge Device (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php/topic,107.0/topicseen.html)
I have moved all post related to the Lockridge Topic above.
Later on, I will clean this Topic.
Thanks again for understanding.
Ufopolitics
Quote from: Prajna on Oct 18, 2024, 12:55 PMHi @UfoPolitics, just to update you: I edited that paragraph so it now says, "I believe the principle that Figuera relies on for his device is that he rotates his magnetic field (in fact, as noted above, Figuera doesn't rotate his field as is done in a conventional generator, rather he reciprocates it, making one pole stronger and then the other) with negligible effort, since it is merely a case of rotating the brush, and any field induced in the Output coil has nothing for the Lenz force to act on."
I hope that is clearer.
@Prajna Great Thanks!
Prior you have made an offer to build a 3D Animation of your 3D CAD Graphic that I have shown on the first page...can you do it whenever you get a chance, please?
As it will help alot to understand the basic Field Movements or Expanding-Contracting of the two components N & S.
Regards
Ufopolitics
LINEAR VERSUS ROTARY ELECTROMAGNETIC INDUCTION METHODS (PART 1)
Hello All,
Ok, about the Linear Versus Rotary...the basic details.
I want to make sure you understand perfectly well these two terms in the same level that I have full domain to then apply them in all your future designs.
Therefore, on the following posts, I want to establish the radical differences between the two Induction Methods.
On the Rotary part...
ROTARY_MOMENTUM.png
On the image above I have a typical rotary generator, two poles on the exciter rotor, represented by the Rectangle having the two poles N & S, as I have set all coils on the Stator right next to each other's, not overlapped, plainly set for the sake of simplicity...
The Exciter Rotor spins at 3600 RPM's, and each Coil spreads exactly 60º, so we have a total of Six (6) Coils, which are connected in series, that closes the circumference to the full 360º.
I have also set a black rectangle enclosing the N Pole and one coil, where Field is perfectly centered-aligned to this coil, and that I have a RED arrow showing the word "View"...which means next image will set us as looking from that Viewpoint.
And the Graphic below shows ON THE LEFT IMAGE, that specific Viewpoint:
FIGUERA_LINEAR_VS_CONVENTIONAL_ROTARY_2.png
On image above I have BOTH METHODS together:
1- On LEFT IMAGE is just a Section of the Rotational Type Electromagnetic Induction.
2- On the RIGHT IMAGE, I am showing the Figuera Linear Electromagnetic Induction.
As one of the
main differences that we can see at plain sight, are written for each Drawing:
1- On the
Rotary Induction, the
North Pole B-Field is PERPENDICULAR to the FIELD DISPLACEMENT.2- On the
Linear Induction, the
North B-Field is PARALLEL to the FIELD DISPLACEMENT.On the Rotary Induction, due to the Field Displacement being Perpendicular to Field Pole Projection (B-Field) this attribute generates an Electron Spin on ONLY the Coil wires that are VERTICALLY running on the Square Steel Core. (As Maxwell stated on his books)
Normally, this specific generation developing only on the Vertical Conductors, has been attributed to the "Imaginary Lines of Force" CUTTING ONLY the Vertical conductors, while all Horizontal wires in the Coil serve as "conductors" of the EMF Generated.
ROTARY_VERTICAL_WIRES.png
On Image above I have Highlighted ALL VERTICAL WIRE SEGMENTS IN RED on the Induced Coil, as the only sections of the wires which generate an EMF, all the rest of wires only serve as conductors, as adding Resistance to the Circuit. Note: I did not add all the "Imaginary Lines of Force" to this graphic not to create a lot of confusing lines, however, these lines of force run parallel to B-Field Vector and all around the front spatial part of the Magnetic Field.
So, I guess the Horizontal wires do not get to be "cut" by the Imaginary Lines of Force, since they are parallel to the Field Displacement, not perpendicular like all the Vertical ones.
And here, I do not want to enter into specific details on Both Theories -at this point- about if it is Maxwell or Faraday Theories which is right or wrong, AS BOTH THEORIES SATISFY REALITY, this is a fact, meaning in reality, this is how ALL rotary generators electromagnetic induction takes place.
But basically, this is a HUGE disadvantage that Rotary Induction Systems brings along, that only HALF (OR A PORTION THEREOF) OF ALL THE INDUCED COILS are the ones that actually generates EMF, while all other conductors just add Resistance to the Induction Circuit.
If you all have noticed, ALL Rotary Generators Stator-Induced Coils have the upper and lower coil wires BENT AWAY from the AIR GAP where majority of Field Force is taking place...As also you may have noticed that large outputting generators are more ELONGATED VERTICALLY than lower output ones...this is done to have Vertical wires taking more space than horizontal wires. And, of course, also the Exciter Rotor must be Elongated as well.
So far, I have dedicated this post to the explanation of the Rotary Method...and I am still not finished with rotary.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Quote from: Ufopolitics on Oct 22, 2024, 05:39 PMPrior you have made an offer to build a 3D Animation of your 3D CAD Graphic that I have shown on the first page...can you do it whenever you get a chance, please?
As it will help alot to understand the basic Field Movements or Expanding-Contracting of the two components N & S.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Sure thing. There is rain forecast for next week, so I can justify spending time in front of the computer.
Hello all,
Please forgive my ignorance but, I really want to understand this method of operation.
If magnetic field (unidirectional) is maintained ALL TIME in the system and only the point of great of magnetism respective N pole and S pole is changing position relative to the system ... why do we have a so called BEMF ? Back spike only happens when magnetic field collapse as far as I am aware and magnetic field reverse polarity.
As I can understand with my limited knowledge in Figuera generator primary coils maintain the unidirectional field all time while secondaries will see it as a virtual magnet traveling in the same direction ... where I agree the secondaries will see this like a magnet going in and out in a controlled manner where BEMF is due mostly to the synchronised movement induced by primaries and not due to natural occurring force of the nature ... or at least natural force is assisted by the system.
Now, I am having some difficulties to understand how the influence of the secondaries over primaries is mitigated in such way that the induced can not see the inducer and remove the extra effort required to fight against the nature ... it should be a delay somewhere happening in order to obtain the gain we seek ?
Not sure if I am wrong, but the induced coil will have a reversed magnetic polarity in relation to inducer.
I am just thinking of this system like a hammer and nail inserted into piece of wood, we hit the nail with adequate force to penetrate the wood and the wood will exert enough friction/clamping force to retain the nail into position, continuous hammering will make the nail to advance in one direction only if the force applied is strong enough to overcome the resistance of the wood opposing the nail.
Also, I can observe if the wood start to crack due to excessive size of the nail, there is no friction/clamping force to retain the nail into position.
I do understand the importance of correct driving the primaries but, I can't see any focus or explanations of isolation between primaries and secondaries ... which Figuera has accounted in order to obtain a beneficial gain.
If my post is detrimental to forum discussion please ignore/delete as seen apropriate.
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 05:35 AMQuote from: Classic (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php?msg=2706) on 04/11/2025, 10:35:17
If magnetic field (unidirectional) is maintained ALL TIME in the system and only the point of great of magnetism respective N pole and S pole is changing position relative to the system ... why do we have a so called BEMF ? Back spike only happens when magnetic field collapse as far as I am aware and magnetic field reverse polarity.
Under normal operation of the device you wouldn't expect to have any inductive kickback since the field isn't collapsing at any point. You would only have inductive kickback when the device is switched off, or if there was a fault that caused it to stop.
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 05:35 AMQuote from: Classic (https://overunitymachines.com/index.php?msg=2706) on 04/11/2025, 10:35:17
Now, I am having some difficulties to understand how the influence of the secondaries over primaries is mitigated in such way that the induced can not see the inducer and remove the extra effort required to fight against the nature.
Not sure if I am wrong, but the induced coil will have a reversed magnetic polarity in relation to inducer.
I am just thinking of this system like a hammer and nail inserted into piece of wood, we hit the nail with adequate force to penetrate the wood and the wood will exert enough friction/clamping force to retain the nail into position, continuous hammering will make the nail to advance in one direction only if the force applied is strong enough to overcome the resistance of the wood opposing the nail.
This is my take, which may be wrong:
Since there is no mechanical motion there isn't a force between 'rotor' and 'stator'. Mechanical generators waste power trying to overcome those physical forces in the generator, such as friction. The primary and secondary magnetic fields don't interact directly in space. The magnetic field strength and flux is simply the summation of all magnetic fields at a point in space. These fields don't interact directly.
QuoteThe principle of superposition
Electric fields created by different sources, e.g., by two or more point charges, simply add together as vectors. Similarly magnetic fields created by different sources, e.g., by two or more current-carrying wires, also add together as vectors. This superposition principle applies to all electric and magnetic fields, including those comprising electromagnetic waves created by different sources. If the E vectors point approximately in the same direction at a given instant of time, the result of adding the vectors will be a sum that is larger than its parts: this is known as constructive interference. If on the other hand, the E vectors point approximately in opposite directions, the result will be smaller than its parts, which is known as destructive interference.
Superposition works for other types of waves also. For example, when small-amplitude waves on the surface of a liquid pass each other, the superposition of two wave crests passing each other creates an extra-high crest; while a crest passing a trough creates a flat spot. (Large-amplitude waves in the ocean are a more complicated story: when two of them meet, they can cause each other to break.)
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMHello all,
Please forgive my ignorance but, I really want to understand this method of operation.
Hello Classic,
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMIf magnetic field (unidirectional) is maintained ALL TIME in the system and only the point of great of magnetism respective N pole and S pole is changing position relative to the system ... why do we have a so called BEMF ? Back spike only happens when magnetic field collapse as far as I am aware and magnetic field reverse polarity.
I don't know why you call this magnetic field "unidirectional"...it is running on Spacetime on a Bidirectional fashion, or back and forth.
Second, on this Linear Series Config, we have a sequence where the 'disconnected coils' from sequence will always (as the intrinsic and normal reaction of any coil) REVERSE Voltage with a much higher spike than it was at input...
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMAs I can understand with my limited knowledge in Figuera generator primary coils maintain the unidirectional field all time while secondaries will see it as a virtual magnet traveling in the same direction ... where I agree the secondaries will see this like a magnet going in and out in a controlled manner where BEMF is due mostly to the synchronised movement induced by primaries and not due to natural occurring force of the nature ... or at least natural force is assisted by the system.
On the original 1908 Figuera Patent, the way it is described with the only one diagram it has, is that he varies the resistance of the primary coils (inducing coils), and when you do that, you are also varying the Currents (amperage), since they are 'indirectly (inversely) proportional', so when resistance increases, amperage decreases.
When amperage decreases, so does the Magnetic Field strength, decreases.
Figuera wanted to 'mimic' what he observed on the generators of his time...that the inducing coils will come closer to the induced coils to then leave further away, when rotation was taking place.
The flaws on his 1908 Patent design is that when you are approaching the Induced, is when you MUST have the Field at full strength, not the contrary.
According to the way he has set his commutator with the only positive brush.
We will never know if this patented design was his final and successful one...I honestly doubt it.
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMNow, I am having some difficulties to understand how the influence of the secondaries over primaries is mitigated in such way that the induced can not see the inducer and remove the extra effort required to fight against the nature ... it should be a delay somewhere happening in order to obtain the gain we seek ?
On any electromagnetic generator there will always be TWO Fields, the Inducing Field and whenever the secondary or 'Field Coils' are LOADED (closed) then they generate this REACTIVE FIELD. Again this is 'Natural' Fields Interaction response, there is NOTHING we can do to change that fact.
Now, the Inducing Field will influence the secondary generating power by induction (Faraday 1800's) and this Field will WEAKEN as soon as the secondary is LOADED.
We have not been able to change that natural reaction, reason why all generators comes with an Automatic Voltage Regulator (AVR), in order to compensate for the Voltage Drop when loaded, and the higher demand from load, the more the inducing field will fall.
A simple explanation is that the Induced, loaded Field will always 'SUCK' Energy or Drain the Inducing Field...then we need to increase frequency or RPM's to compensate.
This phenomena will take place on ANY Generator, even the Figuera from 1908, or mine now the Linear-Series Approach.
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMNot sure if I am wrong, but the induced coil will have a reversed magnetic polarity in relation to inducer.
You are completely correct, this fact was discovered by Lenz back on the 1800's...(Lenz Law)...then he put a Negative Sign in fron of Faraday Inducing Formula.
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMI am just thinking of this system like a hammer and nail inserted into piece of wood, we hit the nail with adequate force to penetrate the wood and the wood will exert enough friction/clamping force to retain the nail into position, continuous hammering will make the nail to advance in one direction only if the force applied is strong enough to overcome the resistance of the wood opposing the nail.
Also, I can observe if the wood start to crack due to excessive size of the nail, there is no friction/clamping force to retain the nail into position.
That is the WRONG Comparison, just because the wood will NOT Oppose to you hammering the nail...wood is soft, nail is solid steel.
Now, try to hammer a nail on a block of solid steel...
Quote from: Classic on Nov 04, 2025, 09:42 AMI do understand the importance of correct driving the primaries but, I can't see any focus or explanations of isolation between primaries and secondaries ... which Figuera has accounted in order to obtain a beneficial gain.
ALL Generators, including Figuera, and mine...the primary and secondaries are 'isolated', meaning not connected between them in series nor in parallel.
The only direct relation (interactions) between primary and secondaries is through their Magnetic Fields.
However, we can always have a
dedicated secondary to feed back the inducing fields through an external electrical connection, ALL Generators do have that.
Hope you are satisfied with my answers.
Regards
Ufopolitics