EEG_EM_New_Technique_TRANSVERSE_FLUX (TF) (Provisional Patent Applied for)

[Ufopolitics]

solarlab

With respect to the EE_TFG it appears the Lorentz Force Law is the only one that might
reasonably apply when explaining the operation of the Transverse Flux generator;
both in the permanent magnet generators (TFPM) and the proposed Electromagnet
(EE_TFG) devies [magnetic field applied at right angle to the coil which creates
current in the coil].

Absolute fallacy. The Lorentz force is a mathematically derived expression from the empirically proven Ampere force. The Ampere force occurs only when electric source potentials discharge through a conducting circuit. Hence Ampere force, Current force and Magnetic induction, around a conductor, are a single phenomenon.  Current force in the phase circuit is a phenomenon not related to the principle of EMF generation, it is a process of utilisation of the generated electric potential. While the potential on the conductor has the principle of induction of anapole moment [toroidal magnetic dipole].

The Lorentz force, is a derivative mathematically of the Ampere force, which is empirically determined. The Ampere Force, is the Electromagnetic Induction of the conversion of electric force lines (EMF - E) into magnetic force lines of Magnetic Induction (Bi):  [ curi Bi = - dE/dt ] or by Maxwell in the electrical system of measurement:  [curl H = dD/dt + J] another entry [curl B = μ0J + μ0ε0(dE/dt)], as you see what a problem in electrodynamics.

I tried to put it in clear language.


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@rakarskiy,

I DO AGREE with your post above in a 100%!!

Lorentz "Force", plus the rule of "Right Hand sticking finger up"...and a charged single conductor inside a magnetic field is all pure B.S. a FALLACY!!

All his work messed up the entire way the REAL ELECTRODYNAMICS IS BASED ON!!

First, Lorentz completely removed all the CURL CALCULUS (Thanks for adding them back on your equations!!) out of all electromagnetic equations.
To replace it by "straight up" vectors, and Rigid Tensors...which is NOT the way Magnetic Fields are!!

A very simple example was brought up by solarlab on the linked pages (thanks S.L.!!):

And these "Laws" above leads to a simple analysis of how a Brushed Motor works:

AND THAT IMAGE ABOVE IS A COMPLETELY WRONG ANALYSIS, IT CAN NOT BE ANYMORE FURTHER AWAY FROM REALITY!!

When on this world, have you ever seen -IN REALITY- a motor where its armature coil is based on a SINGLE WIRE CONDUCTOR??!!

This is purely a SHORT CIRCUIT!!...NO MOTOR WILL EVER RUN BASED ON THIS CONFIGURATION!

But Lorentz had to use a "single wire" -no matter what- to demonstrate his FALLACY, which went all the way to all Electrodynamics up to now is the way we are tought in any Engineering School in the World.

Problem is -as an advantage to his Fallacy to be more credible- that by using his "single wire analysis" we would not even think that such single wire could ever generate a FULL Magnetic SPATIAL Field within that single loop of wire...

So, up to now, you look up/search for the "Magnetic Field at Rotor-Armature in any DC Brushed Motor"...and you would NOT be able to find a real, straight forward answer!!


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

EXCEPT HERE!! : REAL ANALYSIS, AS AN EXAMPLE ON DC BRUSHED MOTORS

This is the REAL DEAL HERE:

First, a truthful analysis must consist on a Coil which is based on MULTIPLE LOOPS of wire (and now the Lorentz Law on a "single wire" simply went through the window, flying)

Just because this is THE WAY that real Motors and Generators work!!...But, now we have "Resistance" & "Inductance", plus an EMF that whenever adding a "current" (I), this Coil WILL GENERATE A VOLUMETRIC SPATIAL FIELD WTHIN THE ROTOR COIL.

Then all the "straight up Forces" based on a single wire will be WRONG!!

PLUS, there would NOT BE ONLY ONE "Stator B-Field" from North Inner Polarization to South...

BUT TWO "B-Fields", one at Stator (Bs) PLUS another one at Armature/Rotor Magnetic Field (Ba), as reflected on Image above by the Two Blue Arrows.

And...the "Straight Up" Magnetic Forces shown before (on wrong analysis) would NOT only be TWO, BUT FOUR (4)!!

There would be Two for Repulsion (Fr1 + Fr2) Forces and Two for Attraction Forces (Fa1 + Fa2)

And these forces are NOT "straight up" BUT in an ANGULAR CONFIGURATION...

These Four (4) Curl Force Vectors are on each Quadrant of the Gap between armature-stator.

This Lorentz Law was merely constructed to deviate us all completely from the realities of Electromagnetism.

Ufopolitics

[solarlab]

Thanks for the opìnions re: Lorentz Force Law - "it can't be correct ...".

Well FWIW many Physics types around here also agree with me, so 
I'll stick with it until another more fitting one is presented - anyone can
Bash a postulation, but few can actually create one!

Rotating magnetic fields, as in a motor, just doesn't fit for TF.

SL

[Ufopolitics]

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Rotating magnetic fields, as in a motor, just doesn't fit for TF.

SL

SL,

If you are using any type of alternating currents (that vary from + to -) as the excitement input, no matter if it is square, pyramidal, saw-tooth or sine, you are just generating a "rotating magnetic field"
As in Tesla's Induction Motor on the 1800's.
And btw, on this example that I have presented on DC Brushed Motors above...there are NO fields rotating there, both static.

Ufopolitics

[solarlab]

TF does fit the Lorentz Force Law profile nicely...

In TF the "B" is always at right angles for both "N" and "S" to the fixed wire (loop coil),
that's why the output numbers remain high as can be seen in the simulations.

You could just vary the "N" without the "S" and get results but the B_R would not work
in your favour... The flip to "S" resets the B_R.

Yes, you can use a number of various input waveforms, including Sine, but a Sine Wave
is very inefficient. An added "bonus" (vs magnets) which I didn't spend much time on.

Note: that the EE_TFG has no moving parts, rotating or otherwise - it's completely fixed.
It does not relate well, or at all, to motor operation.

Electro - I'm sure you will be missed a great deal!  

SL